| Plentyoffish creditcard Flowers. Would free virtual flowers/winks help relationships blossom more? [closed]
Posted: 10/13/2006 3:56:17 PM | Dear friends,
First of all, I want to say this website is great. very wonderful in my opinion. I'm creating this thread not looking to enocurage pointless complainers but in hopes of positive, constructive criticism and in hopes POF admin might listen to some of their users.
My two questions to everyone is this:
#1. Now that Plentyoffish has new creditcard enabled Flowers on the 'put away your credit card website'.... do you think it would be a good idea if POF could have free virtual flowers help relationships blossom here more frequently? (keeping in mind that anyone who doesn't want free virtual flowers could simply turn-off their individual ability to recieve them much like IM messages)
#2. Now that Plentyoffish has new creditcard enabled Flowers on the 'put away your credit card website'.... do you think it would be a good idea if POF could have free virtual winks to help relationships blossom here more frequently? (keeping in mind that women already have that ability, but not men. and keeping in mind anyone who doesn't want free virtual winks could simply turn-off their individual ability to recieve them much like IM messages)
Anyway, I still like POF overall
Love for all,
-onyxblue
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| Plentyoffish creditcard Flowers. Would free virtual flowers/winks help relationships blossom more?
Posted: 10/13/2006 4:08:26 PM | leisha,
thanks for the response. If free flowers or free winks wouldn't mean much to you, then you would be one of the folks who would simply turn-off your ability to receive them. And from that day on you would never, ever receive a single virtual flower or a single virtual wink from anyone who wanted to contact you that way.
you said..
They would not mean much to me if they were free ....not because of I dont think it is sweet.....but every joe blow would be sending them
Thats not necessarilly true. Every joe blow would not be able to send them if Plentyoffish used a 'virtual flowers and virtual winks restrictions' feature which is very similar to the contact restrictions feature. In other words, the only people who could send you virtual flowers or virtual winks would be the exact type of guys who you prefer (must be single, must be certain age, etc.,) to send them to you.
Plus, I have no doubt there are a lot of people who are way to shy to write an entire email to you (or many other wonderful women) so you may always wonder who you might have met or 'what might have been' (as Lonestar sings it) if they had the chance to send you a virtual wink or virtual flowers.
Just something to consider.
Love for all,
-onyx blue
p.s.
Here is an excerpt, the chorus, from that Lonestar song for those of you who don't know it:
"And try not to think about what might have been
Cause that was then
And we have taken different roads
We can't go back again
There's no use givin in
And theres no way to know
What might have been
No we'll never know, what might have been" | |
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| Plentyoffish creditcard Flowers. Would free virtual flowers/winks help relationships blossom more?
Posted: 10/13/2006 4:59:36 PM | I would be in favour of a wink option or something similar to icebreakers, flirts, smiles, etc. I think these can be an useful way (provided the recipients pay attention to them) of confirming some level of mutual interest before actually writing to someone. If the flirt is returned, then you can assume that the person would be open to a follow up email. I am not one to send out dozens and dozens of emails. So I tend to be fairly low on the messaging activity scale and just sort of hang around the forums more. For those that do send out many emails in a given time period, this could be a way to help them target individuals that are more likely to respond--and maybe even cut down on the daily threads about why do women never respond.
The only downside I could see is that because it so much simpler to use than an email, that women would get absolutely buried in winks and tend to ignore them over time. Thus pretty much defeating the purpose. If, as reported, some women get over 100 emails per month, week, whatever, then can you imagine how many winks they might receive? Other than that, I think it is a great idea.
The virtual flowers, not so much. They would fly just as fast and furious as the winks and completely lose any significant status with the recipient. One or the other, winks or flowers, not both.
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| Plentyoffish creditcard Flowers. Would free virtual flowers/winks help relationships blossom more?
Posted: 10/13/2006 5:28:40 PM | Woodstar...
In response to your post....
My fav are wildflowers...and they're free. I can't think of anything more romantic than to have my guy stop the car and pick me flowers along the way. Its happened. And it is.
Onyxblue...I found the administration thread that talks about it. Its okay that you did not respond to my question....you're a busy boy.
Sorry about that. I actually wasn't sure how to respond because you asked a very good question in your prior post which is below....
I just noticed the flower button on my screen today and I don't understand it. I was notified of the new "testimonial" option but not of the new "flower" option. Care to "splain it to me??
As far as I can see, its an option that lets people send out flowers, using a credit card. Its possible they didn't notify you of that option because their motto is "put away your credit card" and the flowers require a credit card, so it would be a lot like spamming you if they sent you that notice. So I think it is considerate that they didn't email us notifying us of creditcard features. Though I read a couple posts from people in the other forums and some guys seem to have a few other funny ideas they want the admin to consider such as...
Plentyoffish, Now with Flowers.
Posted: 10/12/2006 8: 44:41 PM
Goteburg
Msg: 66
I want the option where a girl can send a guy some new tools.
:o)
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Shark Nut....
I would be in favour of a wink option or something similar to icebreakers, flirts, smiles, etc. I think these can be an useful way......
....One or the other, winks or flowers, not both.
Thanks for the input. I agree somewhat. Both would be too much...if a person was forced to accept them. But if everyone had the option to turn off one or both (or simply use restrictions i think it would put the choice in their hands. Lets hope the admin makes something or at least one of them.
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Irish Eyez...
Winks I can see, ....
Thanks for the input. Well, maybe we'll get winks.
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"Orange Juice Blues"...
Thanks for your comment. In response to your posts...
Virtual flowers? Naw. It would simply be more crap women would have to delete....
Women would not have to delete them if Plentyoffish used a 'virtual flowers and virtual winks restrictions' feature which is very similar to the contact restrictions feature. In other words, the only people who could send you virtual flowers or virtual winks would be the exact type of guys (or women) who you prefer (must be single, must be certain age, must have a unicorn on forehead, etc.,) to send them to you. As you know some people have soooooooooo many restrictions (must live within a 25 mile radius) that they'd get one wink per year, if that.
:o)
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Love for all,
-onyx blue
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| Plentyoffish creditcard Flowers. Would free virtual flowers/winks help relationships blossom more?
Posted: 10/13/2006 5:36:19 PM |
"And try not to think about what might have been
Cause that was then
And we have taken different roads
We can't go back again
There's no use givin in
And theres no way to know
What might have been
No we'll never know, what might have been"
That's Little Texas, not Lonestar. Sorry. I'm on the fence about the flower thing... it's a nice sentiment, but I've seen far too many potential relationships fizzle early, then you're stuck with flowers that mean nothing and a CC bill. If it takes money and/or material goods to woo her, she's not my type anyway. | |
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| Plentyoffish creditcard Flowers. Would free virtual flowers/winks help relationships blossom more?
Posted: 10/13/2006 5:54:51 PM | That's Little Texas, not Lonestar. Sorry. I'm on the fence about the flower thing... it's a nice sentiment, but I've seen far too many potential relationships fizzle early, then you're stuck with flowers that mean nothing and a CC bill. If it takes money and/or material goods to woo her, she's not my type anyway.
Little Texas and Lonestar both sing a version of it. Your words are very well put. Maybe if the admin can make some free-of-charge virtual flowers (which come with no CC bill) you'll also find another benefit: even when the relationship has died the virtual flowers still live on!
Yes, I know, corny...but true.
:o)
Love for all,
-onyx blue
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| Plentyoffish creditcard Flowers. Would free virtual flowers/winks help relationships blossom more?
Posted: 10/13/2006 6:01:52 PM | I worked in Clubs for years I always had dozens of Roses waiting when I got to work...but to be honest while they are nice and most every woman enjoys getting flowers... they just don't mean that much unless they come from someone you care about.
Also I looked at the selection and the least expensive bouquet is $30.00 which is a lot if you don't really have anything invested in someone. I guess you would have 30 bucks invested Ha! | |
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| Plentyoffish creditcard Flowers. Would free virtual flowers/winks help relationships blossom more?
Posted: 10/13/2006 7:03:26 PM | Also I looked at the selection and the least expensive bouquet is $30.00 which is a lot if you don't really have anything invested in someone.
I dunno, it's all relative. I might send a $30.00 bouquet to someone simply because I was in a good mood and wanted to brighten their day, even if I wasn't trying to woo them. Someone like JasmineKai, f'rinstance.  I spend more than that on myself every month (darn DVDs...)
On the other hand, I don't think free winks and what-not would do any good. Women already complain men send them form letters, winks'd be even less well-received. | |
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| Plentyoffish creditcard Flowers. Would free virtual flowers/winks help relationships blossom more?
Posted: 10/14/2006 3:42:41 AM | The problem with "free" flowers is you'd end up sending them to every single person and it would take out the specialness of it. On another site, winking is how people contact me. Get hundreds of those. And they're not ice breakers at all. They're meaningless emails that get deleted pretty quickly by me.
I like the idea of flowers that cost money. If I was to get them, then it would mean that the person really cared about me. They are expensive. (Just to let you all know, purple roses are my favorites.) To use the site doesn't cost anything. If you wanted to send flowers, it would. But you do not need to send flowers. | |
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| Plentyoffish creditcard Flowers. Would free virtual flowers/winks help relationships blossom more?
Posted: 10/14/2006 7:50:38 AM | angelab,
thanks for your response,....
Some men would just use it as a way to speed up the "send a form letter to every woman within 100 miles of me in desperate hope of getting a response" process. No no no... no winks please.
Women would not have to ever, (not even once) hear from those men if Plentyoffish used a 'virtual flowers and virtual winks restrictions' feature which is very similar to the contact restrictions feature. In other words, the only people who could send you free virtual flowers or free virtual winks would be the exact type of guys (or women) who you prefer such as "must be single, must be certain age, must have a mom named Big Bertha, must be willing to lose in Pie eating contests, must be willing to admit your dog is cooler than their dog" (which was actually on your profile) to send them to you. Or, in your case angelab, if you wanted no one to ever contact you by a wink, then you could completely turn it off.
However, I think the vice versa of what you said may be true. It may be that some people don't want virtual winks in the desperate hope of... getting an "email or a conversation started in a thread", because without virtual winks or virtual flowers, which many other dating sites have, that is their last chance of sending a communication to the one they would like to meet on this website
Did you ever stop to think that some of the threads created, which many people complain about, are a desperate attempt (by people who don't like writing emails) to contact others?
Maybe virtual winks and virtual flowers would cut down on that. Personally, I like all the threads, but those complaining about "this is a silly/repeated thread" outnumber the talkers sometimes. :o)
Admin: Yes yesy yes... yes free winks please (with the feature turn them off to make everyone happy).
:o)
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shaunamarie78....
Thanks for the input...
"On another site, winking is how people contact me. Get hundreds of those. And they're not ice breakers at all. They're meaningless emails that get deleted pretty quickly by me."
Hmmmm. So if they are really as meaningless as you say, why don't you simply "turn off" the feature which enables others to wink at you? Most dating sites have that ability these days. If you can't find that turn off switch, ask the admin of the site for help. Or if they really don't have a turn off switch, suggest it to the admin that they make one. Or, simply place it in your profile, bold letters, or in capital letters, that winks are "meaningless emails that get deleted pretty quickly by me." I can assure you, shaunamarie, that sentence alone would help significantly reduce the people who contacted you by winks. And it would probably significantly reduce your chances of ever dating anyone,,, from that particular website dedicated to trying to find you a date...or a friend.
I have to say that I, and many, many others feel free-of-charge virtual winks or free-of-charge virtual flowers would be very meaningful to many people... especially on a website which states "put away your credit card" at the top of most pages and yet now has credit card flowers.
Thanks for your input though,
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WonkaBar,,
Thanks for your input...
I dunno, it's all relative...... On the other hand, I don't think free winks and what-not would do any good. Women already complain men send them form letters, winks'd be even less well-received.
Its all relative, more than you know. Some people will complain about reciving too many emails from men on POF, instead of just placing mail restrictions on their website, (must live within 75 mile radius usually cuts it waaaaay back or putting a "I complain about too many emails and will probably ignore your email" statement on their profile cuts it back too). Some people will complain about all the commercials on TV instead of just turning the boob tube off. And some people would complain about receiving free winks.... even if they had the ability to completely turn off the ability to receive them, just like you can turn off IM messages.
Its all relative, more than you know.
I, and many others, who has spoken up on many POF review forums, think free winks would do a lot of good... and winks would be better received, by those that really want to receive them (and turn on their winks restrictions feature to receive them).
Women already have the ability to send winks on POF, but they are denied to men. A lot of men are not aware of that.
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Indigo Rose...
Thanks for your input,
Also I looked at the selection and the least expensive bouquet is $30.00 which is a lot if you don't really have anything invested in someone.
Yes, it is a lot. Thanks for mentioning that. It is important that the admin hear it from the men and the women, especially since women are usually on the receiving end of flowers that cost $30.00.
As you know, there are a lot of people who place a high emphasis on things that cost money, so the fact that you would speak up about the high cost of the flowers is a beautiful thing.
I appreciate your time.
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Thanks everyone for the comments,
Love for all,
-onyx blue
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Posted: 10/14/2006 6:26:20 PM | cynderalla...
thanks for your comments. Someone in the testimonials mentioned women could send them but it seems actually women cannot.
the thing about a rose icon is that you'd still have to open up a seperate email window, and then people would probably think its wild to have an email with just a rose in it.
Whereas, a virtual wink, all you do is press one button and then an entire message is sent stating "someone has sent you a virtual wink."
Virtual roses are even better. They are awesome. Some enable people to write with calligraphy. Some have a variety of about hundreds different rose types (just like in a florist). Some enable people to upload pictures, and some enable people to send virtual music with them.
I was hoping we could get enough people to let the admin know this idea is very good, but every time we start such a topic its gets censored or moved to a very raely visited forum.
Plus, I do believe me mentioning it caused another popular thread I created to be deleted, though the admin told me he didn't do it... but also told said POF users they cannot speak of virtual flowers in the relationship forum anymore....even though creditcard flowers can maintain a convo there. oh well.
hopefully we'll create a better world someday where money doesn't rule everything.
when one door closes, another opens.
So I think I will let the whole thing go.
Thanks for your input tho,
Love for all,
-onyx blue
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| Plentyoffish creditcard Flowers. Would free virtual flowers/winks help relationships blossom more?
Posted: 10/14/2006 11:17:59 PM | Cynderalla... again, thanks for your input.
And thanks for sharing your opinion that this is his party and we are his guests. Just out of curiousity, how many parties have you seen with only one person? Exactly. Its the people that make the party, one party organizer without people would be one party organizer...without a party and without guests.
Its sad how guests and 'expendable website users' can sometimes be easily interchangeable...with all due respect to our host.
I think for me I want to stop focusing on the small things, such as the popular thread I started (which lasted for 2-3 weeks and had over 150 messages) being completely deleted (not moved) 24 hours after I brought up the virtual roses issue, and such as the whole virtual flowers thing. I must keep my eyes on the bigger picture, and that is a world of social justice where money doesn't run everything. The creditcard flowers won over virtual flowers because of money issues (they need that money to pay for this site) in my opinion, and its actually no fault of the admin because i think it is phenomenal that they manage to keep so many of the services on this site free, without pop-up ads, without spamming my email account, and without mind-numbing censorship. There is a great deal of censorship here, but it is not mind-numbing like other websites (Yahoo, multinational corporate parasite of human beings, is the world's worse in terms of pop-up ads, screen-blocking ads and spam).
I looked at the forums and I see that people are still speaking up for virtual flowers and virtual winks, and it makes me happy. People just want to be able to connect in easier ways. It is not a matter of 'contest' seeing who gets their way (as society would like us to believe) but rather it is a matter of 'co-existing' finding ways that we can all work together to compromise and help one-another in mutual-aid.
There are much bigger issues such as http://saveaccess.org -if they pass the Barton/Cope Act mentioned on that website I can assure you that wonderful websites like POF would see their growth halted, while big-money parasite dating services like Yahoo would be able to afford to keep growing. We should be working together.
I think every voice has their time and we are all links in the chain to creating a better world,
thanks for your thoughts tho,
love for all,
-onyxblue
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