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 willy65

Joined: 10/9/2006
Msg: 1
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/16/2006 9:28:21 PM
I had another episode of sleep paralysis last night for the first time in about 5 years. For anyone unfamiliar with the experience, it can be pretty horrific - imagine your body being asleep without telling your brain about it. My experience is almost always the same - the sense that someone or something is in the room and means to do me serious harm and if I can only wiggle a toe or a finger I'll snap out of it - to no avail. Strangely enough, if I can ride out the all encompassing terror, I soon get a sensation of floating, followed by vivid lucid dreams. These incidents used to be accompanied by sleep walking and night terrors as a kid and into my 20s. I actually moved into my bungalow because of an incident in my 10th story apartment, where I thought the apartment building was on fire. I woke up leaning over the balcony - I moved shortly there after. Does anyone else have any experience with this? How about lucid dreams, sleepwalking, or the like?
 MyKidsDad66

Joined: 4/1/2006
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Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/16/2006 9:38:14 PM
Holy dinah!

I've never experienced anything like that. It must be terrifying to wake up while leaning over a balcony.

Have you talked to your doctor about getting into the sleep lab that we have in town? There is actually a fair bit of sleep research that goes on in Winnipeg. I have always been a terrible snorer and eventually ended up at the sleep lab. They wired me up with electrodes while I slept and it turns out I stop breathing about 100 times an hour as I have severe sleep apnea. They set me up with some apparatus to counteract the sleep apnea and it has literally changed my life. Funny how sleep can make you so much more alert and alive...LOL.

I'd suggest you talk to your doctor and see if there is any kind of medical solution that might help you out.

I did that and it did wonders for me.
 willy65

Joined: 10/9/2006
Msg: 3
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/16/2006 9:52:34 PM
If it becomes a serious problem again, I'll do that. As I said, this is the first time it's happened in a long time, and I had grown unaccustomed to the feeling - so I fought it, rather than riding it out for the pleasant sensation of floating and the lucid dreams that follow. I've read that those with epilepsy sometimes do something similiar, that the aura that precedes a grand mal seizure can be quite enjoyable and if they aren't snapped out of it while in that faze of the seizure, it can progress into a grand mal.
 Little Pheonix

Joined: 5/16/2006
Msg: 4
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/17/2006 4:33:37 AM
Holy.....gimme some of those meds.....never tried that kind before......seriously this really is not funny,you just better get yer ass to the Dr. there bud..............And I like puppies and children. With the right spices, they're delicious.......Could be your problem.....ya freek j/k.
 JuztMe

Joined: 5/25/2005
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Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/17/2006 4:37:15 AM
I totally agree with you better get to the doctor...wow thats serious stuff
 Wpg_Wmn

Joined: 8/1/2006
Msg: 6
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/17/2006 5:21:37 AM
Oh Dammit....I thought this thread was called SHEEP paralysis. I was going to come in and take notes for Bigg Sexxy.

*backs out of thread*
 mboutdoors

Joined: 7/28/2006
Msg: 7
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/17/2006 5:46:41 AM
Damn willy, you're one freaky assed MoFo!!!

Just on a side note, this 'presence' that was there to do harm, did he happen to be wearing a navy blue hoody, black jeans, white New Balance runners, wearing a black hocky mask and carrying an Axe with a rusty blade, 3 nicks out of the edge and black electrical tape around the base of the handle? Cause if he was, I have no idea who might have been in your room meaning to do you harm!!!
 Bigg_Sexxy

Joined: 6/28/2006
Msg: 8
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/17/2006 6:17:57 AM
I get sleep paralysis at my Dentist's office.
It's really bad, I hear Barry Manilow come on over the speakers, then the sound of a belt buckle hitting the floor.
Strange that a dentist would want me face down in the chair.....could never figure that one out.

LOL!
 mboutdoors

Joined: 7/28/2006
Msg: 9
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/17/2006 6:19:23 AM
He wants you face down to get an impression of your teeth you PILLOW BITER!!!!
 Bigg_Sexxy

Joined: 6/28/2006
Msg: 10
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/17/2006 6:21:50 AM
Hey....maybe that's why.
Thanks mb....knew I could count on you. You would know what pillow biting is all about.
 winnipeggal74

Joined: 12/30/2005
Msg: 11
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/17/2006 11:05:13 AM
I've had "waking dreams" before - similar to sleep paralysis.

Each time I was asleep, but my eyes were open and I was having visions superimposed over what my eyes were seeing.
My favorite seems to be a big black spider crawling slowly towards my face as I lie there watching it move closer and being completely helpless with paralysis.
When the spider is close enough to my face I start freaking out... and the increase in heart rate and body temperature wakes me up and causes the spider to disappear.

On another occasion, noises I was hearing worked their way into my dream and I leapt up out of bed and ran across the room - waking up a few seconds later wondering what happened to my dream.
 TootsieTX

Joined: 8/21/2006
Msg: 12
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/20/2006 12:14:24 AM
I have had this my whole life. There are many theories and ideas about what causes it and how to overcome or prevent it.

When you sleep normally, your brain switches off the muscles so when you dream of running, you don't actually get up and run....or most of us don't .... sometimes, the switch doesn't turn back on when you wake.

It can be scary. Most of the time it happens to me when I am extremely tired. I have found if I just relax and go back to sleep, I will wake again in a few minutes and be able to move. I used to panic and that made it worse.

Several members of my family also have this and each has learned how to cope in their own way.

There is another theory that it is an out of body experience and you woke up before your spirit returned to the body. So if you believe this one....just close your eyes and take another trip. If it is true, I am a very much traveled soul.

The doctors may or may not be of any help. Some will just shrug it off. Others may want to run a kazillion tests.... chances are they won't know what to do.

Relax... it happens... if it is what I experience, it won't hurt you. Don't get overly tired and if it does, just close your eyes and take a short nap.
 Lil Redneck

Joined: 1/28/2006
Msg: 13
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/20/2006 8:01:50 AM
AAAAAAAAAAwwwwwwwwww litttle fishy I feel so bad for all of you.
It is hard to have a good day when you have a bad nite. I sure hope it gets better for you soon. My goodness it must be hard to deal that kind of stuff......
I had a few years of not being able to shut off the computer at nite...was just
terrible to find my way back to sanity. I relive certain issues in my sleep when triggers
set me off but I was told that is part of the territory from the colorful life I have lived.
oh well the nightmares are far and few inbetween now so I hope when your
homelife gets better so will your sleep habbits.....good luck to all fishy's who can't get good sleep... hugs to ya... stress shows in the sleep but your issues sound very
scary.....OP I am glad you are so brave to share your stuff...maybe someone can
find help here......I sure hope you get the answers you need... good luck.
 witchywoman379

Joined: 3/1/2005
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Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/21/2006 2:43:10 PM
I've heard of what you speak. First I heard stories through friends, about the paralysis, and of course, the presence that you know is in the room, that scares the shit outta ya. Then I heard stories on a radio show called Coast 2 Coast, that is on AM, late in the nite. There are many people out there that have this sleep paralysis. You aren't alone. As to what or who this presence is, well the opinions on this vary quite a bit. Personally I haven't experienced this, so I cannot offer any insight. I do wish you the sweetest of dreams though, and wish you the best of luck in finding a full nights rest.

Have an awesum weekend all

Peace

Witchy
 Rowdy77

Joined: 9/22/2004
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Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 10/22/2006 9:05:16 PM
This used to happen to me alot when i was in my teens and just recently started happening again, actually yesterday morning. I would wake up and my body would be paralysed. I could not move and i am aware of everthing around me, I used to panic and of course that would make it worse, but i learned to just close my eyes and let my body wake up.
I actually remember once trying to yell but I couldn't. It used to really freak me out but i am kinda used to it now. I haven't had the sensation of something or someone else in the room before though (knock on wood).
 jolda_girl

Joined: 9/17/2006
Msg: 16
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 4/17/2007 8:16:10 AM
I've had sleep paralysis as young as I can remember, with my most recent episode just 3 days ago. Being unable to breathe like something/someone is pushing down on your chest, presence of others in the room, trying to scream or yell but nothing comes out, trying to move or wake yourself up but it doesn't work, impending sense of death or doom, waking up in sweats disoriented and fear are all symptoms of sleep paralysis (My dreams often involve all of the above with something pulling me and being unable to stop it). My culture actually calls it 'ma de': which means ghost pushing. It feels exactly like that.

It's scary as hell, but it's interesting if you research it a little. Most people will report of an episode similar (or with just one or two symptoms) when they were teenagers. This is because it is during the teenage years that sleep paralysis is prevalent. Researchers are still not quite exactly sure what is the cause however a lot of research is pointing to electromagnetic fields disrupting during REM.

It's no fun, however the upside of it is because one is sensitive to sleep paralysis, they're also able to lucid dream (the almost opposite of paralysis).
 itty

Joined: 4/10/2007
Msg: 17
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 4/17/2007 8:56:31 AM
this is also the result of astral projection. one of the simplest ways to stop it is to ask god (or your god whichever) to keep you in your body. that you dont want to float about and struggle to come back into your body. You want to stay in place.

I know several friends who this has happened to and since they started to tell god they didn't want to be out of their body when they slept it has stopped.

Give it a shot. None of them had any luck with their doctors.

and I have had grand mal seizures you can't be snapped out of them. I've also never had a pleasant "aura" before it happened either. by the time that happens, the person is actually in the start of the seizure and there is usually no memory of it.
 Little Pheonix

Joined: 11/9/2006
Msg: 18
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 4/17/2007 9:30:24 AM

I know several friends who this has happened to and since they started to tell god they didn't want to be out of their body when they slept it has stopped.



Holy,are theses friends living in some kind of....cult sanctuary or something? Gees, ya God will really help them all,maybe in their next freekin lifetime.This is a....medical condition,not something that you can just whip up some kind of potion with roots and berries.The guy needs to see a Dr., not be talkin to God.Just my view.
 hank chinaski

Joined: 11/18/2006
Msg: 19
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Posted: 4/17/2007 3:42:21 PM
The guy needs to see a Dr.


No, actually, the guy (me) DOESN'T need to see a doctor. I've learned to look forward to these occurrences as a prelude to a euphoric sensation of floating and lucid dreaming. Why would I want to un-learn something like that? I merely had to teach myself to ride out the intial terror. It's something that I think adds a little sumpin-sumpin to my "freak-factor" (along with my left-handedness), and I wouldn't change that for the world.
 Geneseo

Joined: 2/27/2007
Msg: 20
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 4/17/2007 4:28:02 PM
I've heard of this, and have experienced it only one time. To say that the feeling of being awake, and absolutely not being able to move, sucks, is an under statement.

For the god freaks out there, I'm sure that Satan, Lucifer, Baphomet, or any other fun loving angel has nothing to do with this. They are too busy with making your favorite sports teams lose.

As far as I know, this experience is caused by the body releasing a paralizing chemical, so that while one is in R.E.M sleep, and is dreaming, they do not actually get up and run. As stated by another poster.
At times, for unknown reasons, this hormone, or what ever one might call it, is still present in the muscles when the person awakes, and therefore cannot move for awhile.
Relaxing (good luck with that) and going back to sleep does help.
 kaysimone

Joined: 1/11/2008
Msg: 21
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 1/17/2008 11:46:53 PM
I can say that its a relief that other people experience these paralysing dreams however i have a few interesting points to raise for those out there that belief this is just a bunch of scientific mumbo jumbo.

First of all scientists know little about this, and the brain for that matter, as well as other unexplained experiences like near death experiences. Scientist like to claim that they can induce these experiences in labs but fail to recreate the FULL exprience.

I have query to those who think that we release a chemical from the brain to stop us acting out our dreams. Well how about simple tossing and turning at night when your asleep you dont have the chemical when this happens- strange! Also how can science explain been paralysed when wide awake watching TV not asleep at all.

I have expereinced these dreams since I can remember. The first time was when I was 11yrs and they seem to act a a pre- warning for trauma in my life and cant be coincedental.

My worst account was before I was diagnosed with an AVM and I had 7 pararlysing dreams on this night and i was terrified.

Please share your experiences and opinions on this interesting topic




 kaysimone

Joined: 1/11/2008
Msg: 22
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 1/18/2008 12:24:36 AM
Why do people find it so scary to think that there could be something spiritual happening! Don't you think that this is settling that there are things that science REALLY cant explain. After all life has been forged from the heart of stars and thats very powerful!!

When i experience this i always hear a loud ringing almost like a high pitched noise anyone may get, but when these paralysing dreams come on the pitch is 10 times louder and intense. Whenever i hear this high pitch noise it rips me from my sleep ( ive become pro at recognizing this). Then I become immobilised and i cant, for the life of me, move at all. Usually if you convince a finger or toe to move you break free. The episodes last about 2min at the most and intensify if you relax if you fight and get angry you break out, at least i do anyway. I always feel like there is something in the room and usually hear strange singing ( like bakward english) and other times ive had a hand stroke my hair to tell me everything will be okay - theres always a strange presence. I can hear other things beyond the ringing like the trees rustling in the wind or my stomach growlling so im VERY concious when this is going on. This is not some magical chemical in this brain thats released that doesnt make sense for people who have eperienced these dreams like i have.
 ryn48

Joined: 2/26/2007
Msg: 23
Sleep Paralysis - it's starting again
Posted: 1/18/2008 6:50:10 AM
I had an episode like this when I was a young girl. I just put it down at the time to "religious mania" as at the time I was extreme religion bound. Again, at the time I found it both terrifying and euphoric afterwards. However, as an adult I think it has a brain chemical thing - given a certain amount of certain chemicals which cause this type of reaction. Just to be on the safe side I would get recommended to that sleep clinic that mykidsdad said. There is all sorts of reasons we do what we do. Of course, this is said a long time after the original post. I would like to know if the OP got some answers.
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