| | Crystal meth effectsPage 1 of 3 (1, 2, 3) | I just fired a kid who's been working with me for the last 1 1/2 years off/on. When he was younger, he did a lot of crystal meth. Every day it seemed like I was retraining him. He couldn't finish a sentence without using the word "fukkin'" seven times. The only other adjective he knew was "trippy". It just seemed that his ability to think 2 step ahead and retain new knowledge was sketchy at best.
Has anybody else dealt with the effects of a crystal meth user before? Are they all this dumb, or was this guy an exception? | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 2:23:46 AM | It's not just crystal meth, there are other drugs with the same effect or worse. I used to be a volunteer for a youth club back east and i have seen many kids go the same way. I recalled one bright kid. Always smiling and always friendly. I have seen that kid go from a great kid to a vegetable kid. He would take PCP, In french we call it Mescaline. It's PCP but cut with something else. PCP on itself is dangerous and within a year he couldnt say much, his mind always gone.
I have seen other kids doing Acid with similar end results i do have to say however and it's not that i support it but i have never seen a kid smoking pot and a year later to be this brain damaged. Chemical drugs seem to have this effect after a long term use.
So i cant say i have seen crystal meth effects but what you describe is very similar to what i have seen happen to too many kids. All those chemical drugs literally burn brain cells and soon they do become "dumb". Once those cells are burned, there's no turning back, they are gone forever. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 2:26:48 AM | | Well, these kids are damaging their still developing brain. Crystal Meth is a lethal drug and there's going to be, and probably already is, many like him. Poor bugger. They don't stand a chance with drugs like that. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 7:06:02 AM | i seen a few meth heads and dealt with a few of em
i say line em up n shoot em all
its gettin so bad these days that it is very easy to pick em out jut by their shifty eyes and appearance
got no use for em at all
i dont feel sorry for em in the least as they made their bed and they have to sleep in it | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 7:15:41 AM | They could save money by just buying Drano directly from Safeway and drinking it right from the bottle instead of buying it marked up through a dealer.
I suppose if I wanted to poison my body and let it rot from the inside out, I would use something more creative than crystal meth. It's inevitable suicide, so why not be creative about it. Like try to build the world's largest catapult and launch yourself into the side of a building. Or build the world's most complex domino-suicide machine and have dominos set-off multiple painful incisions and torture yourself to death over the course of 12 hours.
At least it would save the normal people of the world from their retarded armed assaults of decent businesses to get money to pay for their stupid addictions. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 7:31:28 AM | | I've dealt with a fair share in my time, and yes they are all that stupid. They are also violent and have loyalty to no one and nothing but the drug.Any means they have to go through to get this drug they will, alot like coke fiends. They have an ability to change moods very dramatically at a moments notice as well (happy to angry and violent) and its probably a good thing you fired this meth head before he started stealing your shit to support his addiction | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 9:42:50 AM | it is sad to say but yup ... that is what a great deal of them are like ... you are lucky that at least he still had the brain to try and keep a job and wsn't knocking over stores to get his fix ... my question is this ... what is better ? Snorting draino? Why do these kids get caught in this crap?
As a parent it scares the S**T outta me ...
But the other factor in all of this is what can we do about it ? And the other sad part is that we live in a boomoing economy where these kids are making almost as much as I am to work at McD's !! I mean what are they going to spend thier money on for entertainment when everything is about the quick fix in our society? | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 9:57:23 AM | | I hear you Tadpole. However, it takes a very special breed to get into things like this. Not all teenagers think to themselves "Quick fix? I need some Meth/crack/heroine etc. Usually (I found anyways) kids who get into this shit are ones who come from really bad homelives, or possibly,although not so much, lack the knowledge about how to deal with this shit/people on it. Your kids don't sound like they come from a broken home at all, and if you talk to them about it and the effects of something that can actually ruin their lives, kids will actually listen. In this day and age, little children are being exposed to all this shit alot sooner than ever before. Hell,my fist encounter with drug dealers and drugs was when I was 11. So talk to them about it.They'll listen. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 10:43:25 AM | ^^^^ geat advice ... and thanks ... Although my kids are not in school yet it is still good to help them understand and grow into kids with strong values and character. i talk to my kids all the time ... And Without a doubt I will make sure that they have someone to talk to and some one who will listen to them as well ...
Not easy beig a parent today but you have to make it a priority ... otherwise .... Why would we be talking about this ? | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 10:51:40 AM | Haha true enough.Well put Kids need to know more and with that knowledge comes the reduced risk of even being around it. Not to say coming in contact with, because all you have to do is go to downtown edmonton for about 10 min and you'll see a meth head or 5, but they'll stay away from the drug itself and disassociate themselves from those using it. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 11:07:20 AM | Trevor
First of all thankyou for giving him that year and a half. You may very well have been one of the reasons for him to try to keep his life in order, and off chemicals. As the parent of an ex meth user(clean for about 18 months) I am grateful to you and others like you who find it in your heart to give a kid a chance.
Some of the other posters really need to get their rose coloured glasses off. When you pull your head out of your a*** and take a good look around you will find out that there are people with serious issues (drugs,suicidal,mentally challenged) right under your nose and even in your own families. Just because it isn't obvious to you doesn't mean it's not there!
The only thing you need to decide for yourself is wether you are on this earth for just yourself or are you a part of something much bigger. Anytime you sit and condemm ,while doing nothing to help ,it says a lot about who you are. Maybe so far you haven't needed someones help but if you're lucky you will live long enough to reach that point.
Karma is a bytch and when the time comes where you are sitting all alone with no one to help YOU just look back at the way you lived, and how you chose to help others....... | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 11:44:30 AM | | hey did he have like a ton of sores all over him that never healed. i work with a guy like this and hes trying to say its just a skin codition yet the same sores never heal at all ( just wondering) | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 11:48:54 AM |
The only thing you need to decide for yourself is wether you are on this earth for just yourself or are you a part of something much bigger. Anytime you sit and condemm ,while doing nothing to help ,it says a lot about who you are. Maybe so far you haven't needed someones help but if you're lucky you will live long enough to reach that point.
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Words of wisdom if i ever read any, that's my take on life. too many people are fly by humans. They seek only what benefit them and dont realise there's a big picture out there. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 11:50:01 AM | | Condemn is bad,blame is assigned.Whatever. When I was talking about the meth heads, thats exactly what I meant, the meth heads.Patent, You're kid was a user,now has gotten staright,meaning he doesn't let the drug control him. Thats an amazing thing, it takes a very strong will and like you said the help of others. I was referring to those who do let the drug control them, because when that is the case, they cease to be them and become "meth heads". The person is still inside them, but there is the barrier between them of that dependancy for the chemical, not allowing the real them to come out. It is good on Trevor for giving him that chance, but the danger and mistrust is still there because although they may be a good person, the addiction can lead them to do things like steal and cheat and lie. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 11:57:58 AM | Yes trevor I have.
I was a youth worker for the government. I dealt with meth heads all of the time, in and out of the system. Brain damage, the abilitly to think ahead and pyshcosis are a few of the long term effects of meth. I have a family member that did drugs (everything under the sky) that is 30 years old and now has the cognitive ablility of a 14 year old, she cannot care for herself and battles addiction, mental health issues, housing issues and prostituion issues to this day. If you want information on any addicitons and the effects and even how to deal with people in this situation I can direct you to some helpful places and sites that will blow your mind........
Amberleah
Edit^^^madjack^^^your a smart man, I hope you put all your knowledge to go use these days....... | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 12:15:49 PM | | Hahaha smart man???? I dunno bout that, just seen some stuff that I can talk about. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 12:19:20 PM | | Listen here you squirrly b*stard!!!! I been callin myself a man ever since i started workin trades and stopped being scared of my own shadow! Well,that and I'm sorry but it takes ballz to look at yourslef in the mirror and not get freaked out by the giant black thing covering my right eye! :).....That and ya best watch yourself I see you and a big steel crowbar in the same vacinity | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 12:35:21 PM | I cannot believe the narrowmindedness and utter stupidity of a couple of the people who posted responses to this question. Particularly trubblemakr and FromChaos311 . These guys must be perfect people with absoluetly no problems in their lives whatsoever. I am completely disgusted with their line of thinking, they are morons at best
Anyway, very well said Patent Pending........ I see you have a deep undestanding of the problem, I have dealt with a few ex crystal meth users in my life, in time, the recovery can be quite amazing, back to a near normal level of their original pre-drug intellect. Patience is a virtrue when dealing with these people,I wish you luck. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 12:36:08 PM | | According to the Op's description of the young man in question "when he was younger he did ...." this says he is no longer active! I think the benifit far outweighs the risk when this is the case. And Jack, grownups don't make meaningless threats like your last post! | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 1:49:45 PM | well i have to agree its not just meth that does this. My twin sister is a crack addict and its seriously altered her memory, reasoning skills and processing speed. When she was first introduced to it she was one semester away from getting her psychology degree at U of C with a 3.87 grade point average...working at the childrens hospital with fetal alcohol kids and thier families...Now she can barely have a conversation coherantly. Impulse control, speech, memory, mood stabalizing, the ability to plan ahead and understand instructions are all permenantly altered.
All drugs will affect brain function over time but these drugs are sooooo much more addictive (where a pothead might smoke every night ...meth, crack, heroine etc can easily become an all day habbit). The rate at which they cause significant damage means even use for a few months in their entire life can cause obvious changes. Pot has the same affect eventually.
(Just incase your wondering I am not just speaking from my one experience...I get my info from the Aventa Drug Addiction Treatment Center in calgary) | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 2:20:45 PM | I cannot believe the narrowmindedness and utter stupidity of a couple of the people who posted responses to this question. Particularly trubblemakr and FromChaos311 . These guys must be perfect people with absoluetly no problems in their lives whatsoever. I am completely disgusted with their line of thinking, they are morons at best
Funny of you to think of me as a 'moron at best'. Clearly you're misguided. Just because I don't defend those who choose to ruin their own lives? And ya, you're right, I have absolutely no problems in my life. Why would I care about anyone who purposely chose to drug themselves in a retarded state? Am I supposed to feel sorry for them? Why would I even care about them? They're the same people who go around stealing from innocent people to pay for their own stupidity. I don't hang around people, and I don't feel sorry for people who have made the choice to let their lives spiral into nothingness. I have no time for those sorts of people. If you want to go on a brigade to save the world, have at it. Being native, hate to stereotype... but I'm sure you know a lot of people who are either druggies, or crazy alcoholics. So I'm sure you're around it alot more than I am. Probably half your family is dealing with some sort of problem. So go ahead and hate people like me, I could care less.
I just hope someday all the meth heads are dead so they stop being a drain on society. The world is a better place without them. The world generally works on the 'survival of the fittest' principle, so eventually all these losers will be weeded out. There's every opportunity in this province to make a great effort at life. You're in an environment that such a low percentage of people on this earth get to experience. I wish the people that waste their lives being druggies in this province would have been born in a war-torn african country so by the time they were 20 they would have been slaughtered by some militant uprising. I agree with trubblmaker... line em up, shoot em, ship em out... whatever. Just get rid of them. Too much money is wasted on programs to help these people. I think the money should be used to clean my streets, plow my walkways in the winter, city beautification programs. Let the losers rot in the streets. Just make sure to have someone to drag their carcass off the street when they finally fall dead. I don't want to have to step on them on the way to work. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 3:45:51 PM |
The world generally works on the 'survival of the fittest' principle, so eventually all these losers will be weeded out... line em up, shoot em, ship em out... whatever. Just get rid of them. Too much money is wasted on programs to help these people. I think the money should be used to clean my streets, plow my walkways in the winter, city beautification programs. Let the losers rot in the streets.
YA, and while we are at it, lets round up all the physically and mentally handicapped...and the homeless...oh yea and all the old people too...damned burdens on society. I need my street cleaned and my damned walkway plowed.
Read Mein Kampf much? | |
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Posted: 10/17/2006 3:54:51 PM | Heaven forbid you ever have a kid who falls into the wrong crowd and take drugs like these. What you're gona do then?
Ohh let me think you're that good you're gona say your kid is gona be above that? You can teach kids all you want but if they want to experiment on drugs bad enough they will and there's nothing you can do to prevent that. | |
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