| FILTER: Message Posts / Replies too short /Text limits?
Posted: 11/16/2006 2:41:33 PM | Hi Mods
Just wondering why the 'message to short' message is coming up? before it was easy to know that you had not written enough as your message never came up, but now it seems to be a bit of an annoyance. Is this a new thing that has been introduced, and if so are members going to be made aware of the minimum amount of letters to be used to be able to post? | |
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Posted: 11/16/2006 2:51:08 PM | Those who tend to be chatty will find that their minimum text allowed will go up proportionate to their "one liners" on the forum, those who post substantively and avoid chat won't notice a thing.
if so are members going to be made aware of the minimum amount of letters to be used to be able to post?
Nope, that's proprietary, and dynamic.
Those who try to bypass this will be dealt with too.
Posting patterns that cause text limits to be applied:
Chat posts
Or, participating in chat threads
Off-topic posts (including; patterns of dropping "one-liner" joke posts in threads, posting opinions of other thread contributors as opposed to the topic, off-topic "soap-boxing", etc.)
Or, participating in hijacking thread topics
Troll posts
Or, habitually responding to them
Flame posts
Or, habitually responding to them
Those who participate predominently in "problematic" local forum "problems".
Rule breaking in general.
In short, if someone posts in threads where there are problems, and they're contributing to the problems; this is a way to curtail - the problems.
If they've been suspended for:
Chat
Flames
Thread- Jacking
It's also likely that they will also have a permanent minimum text limit applied as a pro-active measure, if that doesn't work? There are other more permanent ways of dealing with this.
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Posted: 11/16/2006 3:05:26 PM | Well it looks like someone has decided that i am 'chatty' where as others arent so 'chatty' & can still post short messages although it is pretty clear that others are more 'chatty than i.
This seems very biased & unfare as most of the time my posts are long & on topic & not 'CHATTY'!?
...or is it that you just havent got around to the rest yet? | |
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Posted: 11/16/2006 3:11:53 PM | The how is proprietary knowlege, unfortunately, the why is ....
most of the time my posts are long & on topic
These won't be affected. | |
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Posted: 11/16/2006 3:53:20 PM | I respectfully request that members who habitually post interminably long replies be similarly curtailed, and limited to three...okay, let's say no more than 5 paragraphs.
Call it the blowhard cure. | |
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Posted: 11/16/2006 3:57:33 PM | Right then, this is becoming a real pain in the backside now. Some posts only require a short answer & therefore in order to take part (which i like to on most posts being the opinionated twat i am (sometimes) in the posts i am having to waffle on about anything.
Because of this rule it seems i can only take part if i have a long winded opinion. I am aware of the rule 'No chatting allowed' & try my best to adhere to it.
As you have pointed out you cannot tell me why, so i come to the conclusion that it isnt because i chat but because i may have offended someone with something i have posted & they have complained to youselves.
This may have happened more than once so it has been decided i should have this enforced upon me?
Is there some sort of...'3 strikes of complaints & you're gonna get limited on your posts rule'? It doesnt seem very clear or fair to me & i know i'm not alone. | |
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Posted: 11/16/2006 4:02:08 PM | I respectfully request that members who habitually post interminably long replies be similarly curtailed, and limited to three...okay, let's say no more than 5 paragraphs
Sorry, you're missing the purpose of this.
And, yes ...there is an upper limit.
Post substantively and contributively keeping in mind the purpose of the place, and you won't have problems.
Address the messages, not the messengers.....
There is a problem with the UK forums at the moment, this is where curtailing the chat is best observed.
Another option forchat is removing forums completely if they become too unmanageable, due to troll posts, chat, etc.
Or, in the case of UK local, restricting thread topics to Event planning only.
Is there some sort of...'3 strikes of complaints & you're gonna get limited on your posts rule'? It doesnt seem very clear or fair to me & i know i'm not alone.
Nope.
See above. | |
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Posted: 11/16/2006 4:28:14 PM | Late,
The other option is removing the forum completely as it's becoming too unmanageable, due to troll posts, chat, etc.
would it not be better to remove the trolls rather than the entire forum? | |
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Posted: 11/16/2006 4:32:04 PM |
would it not be better to remove the trolls rather than the entire forum?
We had a lot of cooperation in that regard, ...this has lessened with a lot of contributive posters leaving due to the overwhelming amout of chat and BS on that forum, ...it's a constant battle, if the forum doesn't moderate itself at least to some degree, .....well, there you have it, the choice of how things go is up to those who use that forum. | |
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Posted: 11/16/2006 5:34:07 PM |
only affects the percentage of posters who habitually post one-liners results in
Merely a facet
But also many one-liners are hilarious and apt and often extremely true and informative. Here's to getting the balance right !
Absolutely
This is fun, I am enjoying this but I would suggest that it is unfair to single out certain posters to exercise this rule on, fair's fair everyone should be suffering just the same.
Trust me, in time things will balance out.
It's a self-correcting proposition, that's as much as I can tell you. | |
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Posted: 11/16/2006 5:47:08 PM |
This is fun, I am enjoying this but I would suggest that it is unfair to single out certain posters to exercise this rule on, fair's fair everyone should be suffering just the same.
so it's punish all for the actions of a few? , I may have missed the mark on that, but how can you subscribe to that thought?
How does that better the situation for the collective ? | |
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Posted: 11/16/2006 5:59:31 PM | Um, I just got the same message when I posted a forum violation.
It's true-- I'm a notorious tattle-tale. Could this be why I was ear-marked for short-messaging? All my violation reports are pretty terse. | |
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Posted: 11/16/2006 6:16:34 PM |
maybe it could be that you happen to be participating in the very threads you flag as being invalid???
Oh! So...uh...we're not supposed to do that?
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Posted: 11/16/2006 6:23:14 PM | No, it doesn't help things, ...getting your "licks in" in a thread you know is going to be deleted.
Reporting them is a must, we couldn't do our job without the help of other users, ...but when we also see you posting in the thread, ...that misses the point of "ignore/report". | |
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Posted: 11/17/2006 7:06:36 PM | What about answers that can't help but be short? Some people tend to have less then long winded advice, comments or as I said...answers to other people's questions. Its bad enough there those that post their thesis as to just answer a simple question...
Yes I know, my "inane" comments are the reason for my shortened postings. But come on late....have a heart! I'm pleadin' with ya...."Look into your heart!!" (yeah that helps......back of the line ya go.) | |
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Posted: 11/17/2006 7:25:29 PM | Yes I know, my "inane" comments are the reason for my shortened postings.
ie:
Jetplague Joined: 4/4/2005 Total Posts: 1029 Msg: 34 (view) Lusting Over Profiles? Posted: 11/17/2006 6:01:46 PM Lusting my banana....yeah....I know alllll about that already. Heh!  Lusting my banana....yeah....I know alllll about that already. Heh! Lusting my banana....yeah....I know alllll about that already. Heh!
I don't even know what this is supposed to be? You do know this is trolling, ...right?
But come on late....have a heart! I'm pleadin' with ya...."Look into your heart!!"
Only you can change the way you affect your limits
Chat, trolling, broadcoasting posts go up?
So does your ability to continue doing these things decrease.
It's got nothing to do with me. | |
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Posted: 11/17/2006 7:46:54 PM |
Those who tend to be chatty will find that their minimum text allowed, will go up proportionate to their "one liners" on the forum, those who post substantively and avoid chat won't notice a thing. I'll welcome this. I notice a few people, in a certain Canadian local forum, who think that they need to post meaningless, 5 word posts, in 6 or 7 different threads, a couple of times a day.
maybe it could be that you happen to be participating in the very threads you flag as being invalid??? Oh! So...uh...we're not supposed to do that? 
I guess I'll have to cut out my habit of making quick, sarcastic replies to every newbie, who's certain that he must be the first person to ever think of a starting a thread about "women not replying to emails". | |
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Posted: 11/17/2006 9:58:58 PM | Well at least I now know what the topic is all about. I had wondered at the UK forums thing myself, and I try to decide based on the topic if anything I have to say can help the poster, or if it is just noise in the machine and worthless to anyone , IE, My ego is larger than the box I put it in, so it spilled out on the floor and had to be wiped up.
I try to preform brevity in motion of pixels to eyeballs to brain, while writing, so I do it also in my advice, noise never helps get to the kernal. | |
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Posted: 11/18/2006 4:14:54 AM | Odd little rule, since sometimes, alot of times, sticking strictly to the original post requires only 2 sentences. Nonetheless, would be GRAND if the reverse rule could be implemented, and those that feel it necessary to post a BOOK long edition in threads, could then too be "limited".
[Read the thread, this query is answered/late™] | |
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Posted: 11/18/2006 5:14:12 PM |
This is fun, I am enjoying this but I would suggest that it is unfair to single out certain posters to exercise this rule on, fair's fair everyone should be suffering just the same.
In a perfect world this would be great! Unfortunately the cops can't catch all the killers, con artists, abusers, drunk drivers etc, etc, etc.
So it is in these forums with the moderators.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. | |
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Posted: 11/18/2006 5:17:47 PM |
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
In regards to this context?
That's as concise as it gets.
Though I would go with Steven Wright's version:
"If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate" | |
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Posted: 11/19/2006 10:57:53 AM | In defense of the short line and then vote to delete; sometimes I give a short answer or explain why I believe a thread will be deleted...and then vote for it.
As in, I think it would be better if you posted to profile reviews...than the big vote.
Not that you care or anything, I just want to blatantly waste your time by making excuses...I mean, explaining my actions  | |
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Posted: 11/19/2006 11:16:45 AM |
Not that you care or anything, I just want to blatantly waste your time by making excuses...I mean, explaining my actions
My beer cozie says "Just because I don't care, doesn't mean that I don't understand".
sometimes I give a short answer or explain why I believe a thread will be deleted...and then vote for it.
Minimum limits are only imposed upon members who aren't cluing in on proper
posting procedure. | |
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