| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 11/20/2006 11:04:24 PM | um just a note, i know there trying to get fans excited about the different brands and all that, but do we really need wrestlers from like ecw appearing on raw or smackdown or vice versa, i know it drums up business and all that for ppv buys but i mean where do we cross the line,
i hope they dont over use or underuse monty brown, or put him as like they did with ahmed johnson. | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 11/21/2006 12:04:41 AM | Smackdown and ECW do not get nearly as many viewers as RAW does so I can understand why Vince allows the wrestlers to make appearances on RAW but it is overdone. Many good RAW wrestlers are not getting enough air time because Big Show, Booker T and a few others keep coming on RAW. If I wanted to see Booker T and The Big show so often, I would watch ECW and Smackdown.
It does also get business for the PPV but if you are on a particular WWE brand, you should stick to getting your face time on that brand and not hog it for the wrestlers already on that brand. Unless you are Jeff Hardy and then you deserve all the face time you can get.
~Carrie B. | |
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rde62
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Joined: 9/18/2006
Msg: 3 | |
| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 11/21/2006 4:04:49 PM | | It's too watered down,now. The original seperation was great for the first 1 1/2 year. Rarely did anyone appear on the other show,just the one they were assigned to. I think now,they should just combine the brands,and cut about 1/3 of the roster-one in three wrestlers there are nothing but dead weight anyway. Considering how horrible the shows have been lately, maybe they should just fire the writers. | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 11/22/2006 11:38:31 AM | | It doesn't bother me except the Big Show is one of the worst wrestlers of all time. Right up there with The Great Kali. | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 11/22/2006 12:08:18 PM | | The Big Show has definitely lost a step or ten. He's getting up there in age, and starting to break down the same way Andre did. This is a guy who, eight years ago, was working on a freaking MOONSAULT~! of all things! I still love the guy, though... | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 11/22/2006 12:23:20 PM | Check out this awesome Ric Flair rap video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1LcJ6N9vwo | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 12/13/2007 11:35:44 PM | | first off I'd like to start by saying that John Cena should be fired and can rot in hell. And, no I think they should just hire more wrestlers for ecw. The roster is slim pickens, and the fact that they merge ecw with smackdown, just shows us that they need to do something to bring in more fans and make more money. I have to say, I'm pretty disgusted with wrestling right now, what with the way the writers are doing things.... | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 12/14/2007 5:28:55 AM | | I like the extreme Wrestling better , I like when they bring the tables and chair's ~ etc into the ring , smackdown is getting boring , don't even watch it anymore : | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/10/2008 12:43:56 PM | | if wwe would keep good talent then they wouldnt have to have to cross brands. eithor that, just have saturday night main event, get rid of raw, ecw, and smack down and just run 1 big show. | |
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MNM08
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Joined: 1/14/2008
Msg: 10 | |
| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/10/2008 2:27:44 PM | Vince could care less about ECW. They have Smackdown talent on there now because the ratings for ECW have dropped to the 1.2-1.3 range.
The Wrestlemania hype has sucked, having Orton/Cena at the next PPV instead of Wrestlemania is a bad move. Only reason is so HHH can get in the main event this year.
Saturday Nights Main Event draws awful ratings, and Vince does not care about that show either. Vince only cares about Raw and the other shows are his red headed step child ( or his Hornswoggle...lol ).
Other thing going on is probably the greatest promo guy ever, Ric Flair, rarely gets to talk anymore, even though he is retiring at Wrestlemania. It is because Vince thinks Flair's promos do not work anymore, and the main scriptwriter Brian Gewirtz, who is a putz, never grew up on Flair when he was a kid. | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/11/2008 6:49:43 AM | Yeah, Vince does as whatever Vince wants to do, along with his son in law, HHH.
I think a big part of it is because Ric Flair wasn't "created" by McMahon. If Flair had been with the WWE from the beginning or throughout most of his career, we'd see him being treated differently, instead of going through the motions of this "farewell" tour. After all these years, still no one can touch him when it comes to doing promo's. Plus the writers are pretty much clueless anyway.
I stopped watching regularly years ago. I mostly follow it through the internet now.
Also Smackdown has lost it's TV spot on the CW network. So Vince is scrambling to find another TV slot.
ECW is just lame. It's just an avenue to get the lower rung wrestlers some TV time. | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/11/2008 11:06:47 AM | see smackdown live and with that ticket purchase, get to see ecw.
wait my bad its not ecw, its wwecw. | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/12/2008 12:00:06 AM | | Wrestling has gone to hell period including the indies. I mean WWe hasn't had a decent pay per view in 5 years for one. Their roster has become scarce and laughible. ECW is mockery of its glory day yes I was watching ECW since i was 10 they had it in sindication where I lived on channal 20 in denver CO only for a few showings in 1994 when i was in 5th grade. I agree just make one big show and quit this stupid cross branding non since and bring back the good ol jobbers so I have something to look forward to on the pay per views. | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/12/2008 1:36:31 AM | Ric Flair has been given so much opportunity from Vince McMahon over the years. My goodness, saying he hasnt shows a lack of knowledge of history.
Yes ECW is a mockery of its glory days but with the mainstream wrestling becoming more violent where does that really leave ECW without killing a wrestler?
Would also like to know why so many *men* have a problem with John Cena? He is this generations Hulk Hogan and wrestles a hell of alot better than Hulk ever did | |
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MNM08
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Joined: 1/14/2008
Msg: 15 | |
| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/12/2008 4:31:07 PM | Racygirl, Cena is no better worker than Hogan was, plus you have to think Hogan was a hell of a lot bigger than Cena ( back in those days he was 320-340 legit ). Cena overall is not even in Hogan's league when it comes to everything. Hogan was the biggest star in wrestling even before his big first run in the 1980's WWF. He was a huge star in Japan for a few years. Nobody can compare to Hogan, the biggest north american draw in pro wrestling history. Hogan will tell you himself he was not the best worker in the ring, but he did not have to be. Only one that compare to a draw was Austin, but he only had the one huge year, he is not in the same ballpark with Hogan for longevity. Cena is the biggest star, as he is a house show and merchandise draw, but does not translate into PPV buys. He is nowhere near a Hogan, Austin, or Rock. He is around what Bret Hart and Randy Savage were.
The guys boo Cena because they cannot relate to him, they still see him as an Eminem rap wanna be rapper ( even though he does not really do that gimmick anymore), and most guys who watch wrestling hate rap, they think he is a pretty boy, etc. I have no problem with Cena, he works hard, is a good employee for the company, sells merchandise, etc. Some cities he gets booed in more than others.
Ric Flair has not got much of an opportunity in years. He has to recite from a script what the scriptwriters write for him, which is a joke. Vince hates the 80's Flair, and does not like to push what he did not create. The last great promo he cut was on Carlito months back, other than that, they rarely let the guy talk.The retirement angle they are doing is someone botched, but is scheduled to take on Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania.
For some people who hate today's WWE and think the indies suck, need to check out ROH wrestling, the PPV from earlier this year, Man Up, might have been one of the greatest PPV in history. For 14.95 every 2 months, it is worth checking out. | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/12/2008 6:23:52 PM | "Would also like to know why so many *men* have a problem with John Cena? He is this generations Hulk Hogan and wrestles a hell of alot better than Hulk ever did"
That was funny Cena is not Hulk Hogan at all in fact his charisma lacks and he only knows 6 moves. Yes you can site there and say hogan had 8 moves and that is true in the US watch his japaneese matches where he did alot of technical moves and had a totally different finisher than the cheesy leg drop. John Cena is being pushed before he was ready the only time John wigger Cena was marketible was when he used to talk alot of sh*t like the Rock when he was fubu cena gimmack.
Watch FMW in japan that is true Hardcore wrestling done correctly. ECW was weak even to this one! | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/13/2008 12:12:18 PM | cena is a rock rip off. and cena knows only 5 moves dummy.
ecw was a mild version of wing, fmw, bjp. japan is were the good wrestling is at. | |
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MNM08
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Joined: 1/14/2008
Msg: 18 | |
| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/13/2008 5:34:11 PM | Hogan wrestled a lot different in his Japanese matches, in some ways Hogan was an underrated brawler back in the days.
The scriptwriters give Cena too much Rock like interviews to recite, if they let the guy ad-lib it like in the old days, it would be better. Stephanie McMahon does not have a clue sometimes. When they want to hire a scriptwriter, if they were a wrestling fan or know about the business, they will NOT hire them. That is how F'ed up it is.
Then again, WWE brought in the most revenues in history this past fiscal year, thanks to international expansion...... | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/15/2008 6:53:56 PM | Nothing is better than All Star Wrestling:
Likes of "The Crusher", **** The Bruiser", Ivan Putski, Baron Von Raschke, Vashon Brothers, Nick Bockwinkle and others. Now that's what I'm talking about, real wrestling! | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/17/2008 8:35:19 AM | | I admit, I was a fan of john cena when he first broke in, but then his character just became lousey. His matches are hard and boring to watch, it's always the same and the outcome is always the same, and still he has yet to have a "classic" match. Wrestlers like Rock, Austin, Taker, Hbk, Bret Hart, Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit and a whole bunch of other superstars were and are able to perform and leave you on the edge if your seat, when john cena is on, you just wanna leave period. | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/23/2008 1:05:24 AM | | im not a fan of John Cena, i hate him, but he has had his classic matches, Wrestlmania 22 with the GAME, EFFING CLASSIC....... his two matches with HBK, classic...... but thats about it......... | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/24/2008 8:53:46 AM | John Cena isn't all bad...he has nice entrance music. He has had some good matches, the man can deliver. He just needs to turn heel and go back to being awesome. Nobody will ever be as good as Piper, but I think he's capable of getting close.
The only wrestler I care about is Rey Bucanero, though.
Not really. | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/26/2008 1:26:47 PM | | TNA is head and shoulders above the Big 3 now. The characters are better, the action is better, the writing is better. Tell me there's 1 thing in WWE that's better than Black Machismo. | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 2/26/2008 1:55:27 PM | Ok, I'll take the case!
Umm....this is a hard one.
Got nothing. TNA has Curry Man, that's pretty much all that matters. | |
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| WWE, ECW and smackdown
Posted: 3/1/2008 9:34:04 PM | OK, I'll throw a match on a fire here....Benoit. I know what he did...we all do. I have mixed, if not very ill feelings about that. But he busted his ass, up through the ecw ranks. He was a damn hard worker, and when he took Wrestmania 20, I was truly, for the first time, happy for a wrestler. You could see it in his face....20 years of working his ass off and finally Mcmahon gave him his day. It's all so much dribble now. Maybe it's the fault of the writers, I don't know...but a wrestler has to perform...has to draw us in. I still love watching the old Paul Bearor/Undertaker matches from the 80's, forever after Hogan's life....my kids love that stuff! Maybe because it was fesh and new in the 80's..McMahon turned a sport into a massive well plotted soap opera.
It was sad when Owen Hart died..but I must say, the blue what? I never got the flying bird and eat your vitamins and drink your milk....who wrote that? Was it another attempt at a Hogan good guy angle? OH well, we'll (my sons and I) always watch. Rest in peace Owen and Chris. Thanks Ed for the best soap on TV! Cena fills in space to me, and really, I agree that each Brand should carry its own talent and that the three should not intermingle, save for a good storyline, but not just for weekly matches. | |
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