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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/21/2006 4:26:39 PM | Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out now
It is like" hey what time is it?
oh good Glen Beck is on I can get an hour of hardcore brain washing"
is it just me ,or are there other people out there too that think
Glen has kinda 'got of his leash' and is pooping in the nieghbours yard? | |
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Joined: 9/25/2006
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/21/2006 11:31:41 PM | This is the answer to Cross-Fire? CNN agreed with Jon Stewart that cross-fire
had no educational value & dropped it, but then they bring this guy in? Excuse me, but I think
what Jon was trying to say was that SHOWS of this calibre have no value. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 2:23:10 AM | | Ugh~ I can't stand Glenn Beck OR Nancy Grace. And they play them back to back TWICE. Well, CNN has finally broken this news junkie's habit. I usually have the news on most of the day, just in the background if I'm not watching it. But I can't stand to have either of those two in my house. And if they come on while I'm getting ready for work, I usually try to leave it there just so I'll know what time it is. But inevitably, I end up changing the channel cause I just can't stomach it. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 9:42:23 AM | Glenn is performing a valuable service by informing the public of the dangers of Islamic Extremism and attacking the PC and appeasement mindsets.
If you don't know about the threat, then you should watch on Friday. If you know about it, and dismiss it, then you will probably sound like the people above.
The threat has plenty of credibility, and is no "chicken little" scenario. I'll start worrying about Glenn if he suddenly drops the extremist theme, and picks up global warming as his vanguard issue.
Awareness and vigilance will keep us safer.
The best argument against Glenn, is not "chicken little" but "corporate stooge," because as the liberal side will surely point out, most of time you propose protection; the "protection money" will fall into the hands of the corporations. Even if you advocate gun ownership as a way to personal empowerment; a corporation will make the gun. "Awareness" appears to be the empowerment that Glenn is advocating. If that leads you to buy a gun, that is a personal decision. | |
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Joined: 1/9/2005
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 10:36:06 AM | Part of the problem with misinformation from celebs is, you get a lot of people who buy into it.
On the far right, especially the more religiously intolerant of the bunch, you get people who will believe what they want to hear, ie: "Muslims want to kill us" this is not because they're stupid per se, it's also an ingrained sense of entitlement and hubris. Rush, Glen, Bill O.
The fact that the west and Israel kill exponentially more Muslims than vice versa, ....will never sink in.
On the far left, especially the kookier of the bunch, you get people who will believe what they want to hear, ie: WTC/Pentagon was an inside job by world leaders who are alien reptile shape-shifters. This is not because they're stupid per se, it's also an ingrained sense of paranoia and delusion. Icke, Noory, Jones
The fact that Saudi's took credit for it, will never sink in.
For the rest of us, there's connecting the dots, money trails, and the fact that the people putting out the "information" have a VERY vested interest in keeping those who "believe" the bullshit, credulous.
Check sources, look for unaffiliated verification of information, study history, follow the money, ...don't be FOOLed by media "stars" playing on cult of personality.
Those who buy into the "whack jobs" and journal-tain-ment prop-whores, ...do society the injustice of helping to hide the REAL problems by helping to hide the truth.
I'm sure they love Glen on freerepublic.con | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 11:35:59 AM |
It occurs to me that anyone who would take this guy seriously ... needs serious help.
As opposed to those who take Father Frank Morales seriously? You certainly have illustrated your focus on character and facts. Does HR 5122 ring any bells?
The fact that the west and Israel kill exponentially more Muslims than vice versa, ....will never sink in.
The fact that Israel is constantly under attack and has military superiority might have something to do with that "fact." I doubt that the 13 million Christians who disappeared from the Middle East and the Balkans since the time of Thomas Jefferson has entered into your calculations, since you did specify "the west." That is convenient.
I have met Ajerbajani's, Syrians, Armenians, and Egyptians who immigrated to the US. They mostly tell of evictions and genocides in our lifetime. Their stories are personal.
Forget 9/11, if that's what you want. Look only at the bombings in places like Pakistan, Thailand, Bali, Chechnya, India, and the Balkans. These are certainly interesting times, and if you can't connect those dots, you have a problem.
When Glenn starts proposing solutions like wiping out the entire Muslim community, I will start to worry, but raising awareness without playing into racial stereotypes is necessary critical thinking. Defending the extremists with accusations of oppression is just a form of bigotry that places all westerners as "crusaders," "occupiers," and "oppressors." It would certainly be narrowminded for me to suggest that there is no such thing as a corporate oligarchy or the Military/Industial complex, but suggesting that there is no danger in the Muslim Extremist agenda is nothing but foil hats and kool-aid. | |
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Joined: 1/9/2005
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 1:27:51 PM | As opposed to those who take Father Frank Morales seriously?
Never read him, is he a journalist, or a right/left wing kook?
The fact that Israel is constantly under attack and has military superiority might have something to do with that "fact."
If this was defensive, or retaliatory, ...you would at least expect the casualties to be in the same ballpark, ...they're not even on the same planet.
CAMERA, MEMRI, and the many and myriad other PACs make sure that, in the west; any Palestinian action is an "attack", and any IDF action a "response", ....the mainstream media is programmed, as is most of its audience
How many deaths of Palestinians in Gaza since June?
350!
How man Israeli deaths in the regions around Gaza, in ALL OF LAST YEAR? Since 2000 even?
Go back 6 years and compare to just the last 4 months of the Palestinians, .....still no contest.
What's the ratio - who in fact is attacking who?
I can see the math if one is to place the value of a Palestinian life at that of <5% a life, those who kill them, and those who supply the means to do so.
I doubt that the 13 million Christians who disappeared from the Middle East and the Balkans since the time of Thomas Jefferson has entered into your calculations, since you did specify "the west." That is convenient.
"disappeared"
Oh hell, you want to go back?
Look at what the Christians in Europe did to "disappear" the Jews and Muslims going back a millenia?
I have met Ajerbajani's, Syrians, Armenians, and Egyptians who immigrated to the US. They mostly tell of evictions and genocides in our lifetime. Their stories are personal.
I've met many too, also Kurds, Iraqis, Iranians, Palestinians, Afghanis, ....Muslim and Christian, most lean towards secular. They see this as the west doing "more of the same".
I have a Kurdish friend who works at the gas station down the street from me, ...he tells stories about Saddam's brutality, ....and his father's stories about the US/UK brutality, and his grandfather's stories of the Brits using mustard gas and napalm on men, women, and children.
I live in a place with a long history of Mid-East and Asian immigration, I know many Christian, Muslims, and Jews with either roots there, or the ME/Asia being a recent home.
These people have history, a Glen Beck soundbyte juiced from a MEMRI "news release" won't distract them, ...they already know the score.
Chechnya?
Interesting what telling the Ethnic-Chechnyan side of the story gets you in Russia, ..innit'?
Forget 9/11, if that's what you want. Look only at the bombings in places like Pakistan, Thailand, Bali, Chechnya, India, and the Balkans. These are certainly interesting times, and if you can't connect those dots, you have a problem.
A serious problem if you see only "effect" and ignore "cause".
.......here's where you only succeed in propagating "effect".
Status quo any one?
Connect those dots.
It would certainly be narrowminded for me to suggest that there is no such thing as a corporate oligarchy or the Military/Industial complex, but suggesting that there is no danger in the Muslim Extremist agenda is nothing but foil hats and kool-aid.
Any "Extremist" agenda is dangerous, ....I haven't said otherwise. More so when it's a religious "Extremist" agenda.
The Islamic Extremist is no more dangerous than the Zionist Extremist, ....but, ...really;
....One only has to get a glimpse of the Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian extreme to really get nervous.....
(Apparently, they've made room for Zionists in Fundi heaven, as long as they kill Muslims, ....noice..)
Rapture Ready?
Coloured lights can hypnotize.....
Sparkle someone else's eyes....
Follow the money, do the math, connect the dots, ...leave journal-tainment in the "not-credible" bin next to the professional wrestling scam. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 1:46:14 PM |
Oh hell, you want to go back?
Look at what the Christians in Europe did to "disappear" the Jews and Muslims going back a millenia?.
You can look at them if you still think the Inquisition is a current agenda. Are you suggesting that the extremist agenda of convert or die is retaliation to the Inquisition, and our long dead forefathers? This isn't a western concept. I am talking about an agenda of "convert or die" that continues in a current culture, and is evidenced by selectively bombing places of worship.
I won't even proceed to your next point until you address this. | |
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Joined: 1/9/2005
Msg: 15 | |
| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 3:40:32 PM | Up until (WWI) when the British took over areas of the ME that were once under control of the Muslim Sultinate of the Ottoman Empire, Jews enjoyed over 7 centuries of protection from the Christians of Europe, by the Muslims of Turkey. Not just the Inquisition, countless pogroms, eviction from Germany, Greece, Italy, France, ... at the end of a sword with the only escape a ship sent from a Muslim King..
What followed after was a lot of betrayal, double dealing, and fraud when the UK and other western nations made agreements with the Arabs of the region, ...crack any history book, it ain't pretty. Especially when your own side is obviously the one being the asshole who started the mess.
The current mess is just a continuance, a status quo of the original bungling.
And the same thing that started it, a sense of entitlements fed by hubris, ...is what perpetuates it.
Face it, sometimes it's the asshole's fault.
Are you suggesting that the extremist agenda of convert or die is retaliation to the Inquisition, and our long dead forefathers?
Hell no! ....you're the one that wanted to trace this menace fallacy back in time before modern history, ....not me.
This isn't a western concept.
Ha! you're right, journalism in the west is full-on currupted by pop culture, the collective attention span of the average North American is about 3 minutes, ...4-5 if there's boobs.
I am talking about an agenda of "convert or die" that continues in a current culture, and is evidenced by selectively bombing places of worship.
And, you are saying that it's the religion that causes this, not the collective behaviour conditioning of over 3/4 century of abuse?
Why are there parts of the world (absent of this corporate rape by proxy) where people were getting along, and centuries of Jew, Christian, and Islam existing without problems in the "holy lands", ...under a Muslim Empire?
How are they getting along under the Zion Extremists? .....How well are things going in Iraq under the watchful eye of the people from the "one nation under God"?
The irony is so blatant, ...missing it speaks volumes.
I won't even proceed to your next point until you address this.
Don't bother, you've already skipped plenty, and for the most part, ...I'm pretty sure I've heard it.
Face it, ALL THE SONS AND DAUGHTER'S OF ABRAHAM, ....are going to be judged by their whackos
The only blind to this are the faithful, ...pick a flavour.
You chose to only apply this to the branch of Abrahamic faith you want demonized, I will apply the same reference to all.
From where I can stand, ...this "God" business is whacked any way you look at it, ...a Mad Mullah is no different to me than a Mad President, ....or a Mad Likud leader...
Buncha' whacko's the lot of them.
Abraham picked the wrong deity to worship, he should have gone with a peaceful one.
Abrahamic Terrorists - there ya' go, ....blame them, ...they're ALL whackos
I'll agree with that broad brushed generality, at least it includes all the players, .....except of course, the ones that make a buck off of it, ...but what can you do? | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 3:43:09 PM | gottalight it's no surprise you are a Glenn Beck fan. says it all.
"Glenn is performing a valuable service by informing the public of the dangers of Islamic Extremism and attacking the PC and appeasement mindsets."
yup, a his a valuable asset to the multinationals for manufacturing war. | |
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arri
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Joined: 10/5/2005
Msg: 17 | |
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arri
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Joined: 10/5/2005
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 4:31:25 PM | Well, at least there's a profit being made somewhere by someone out of all this, that IS the bottom line, can I get an Amen?
But seriously. The rest of the world is not the same as the US and UK ... the rest of the world didn't support the Iraq war, doesn't much care for Dubya's war on terror, don't think Hezbollah is a terrorist organization and so forth.
This type of misinformation and extreme right views that Beck broadcasts to the world is helping with an International attempt to pressure the US. We are seeing how they have disoriented the Arab League (including all their allies), contributed to the influence of Iran in the middle east (Hell, no one is even talking about sanctions anymore). Venezuelan president calls him Satan and now is lobbying like mad to be elected to the security counsel.
They can't stay as the leaders of the free world if everyone thinks that they are mad. But Americans are Americans and need to be handled with kid gloves. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 4:50:30 PM | I am talking about an agenda of "convert or die" that continues in a current culture ... I have worked with Muslims for years ... not a single one of them has ever uttered a single word about trying to convert me.
The Born Again Christians, on the other hand, are relentless ... they are truly out to convert everyone they meet who doesn't believe as they do. Talk about extremist!!! They even travel to Afghanistan under the guise of "helpers" and try to convert those people in their own country. They are told before they go that ... that is strictly forbidden, but they persist.
Then when they get caught doing it ... and imprisoned, they want the US to come to their rescue. I doubt I want to know how much that cost our government to buy those peoples' freedom when they did that.
Now should I view that "Christian" behavior as extremist ... or is that just "normal" behavior?
Should I view my peaceful, well-mannored, (respecting of my religious views) Muslim friends' behavior as normal ... or is that extremist?
... can I get an Amen?
*singing song to myself
A ... men, A ... men,
A ... men,
A men, A men.
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 4:54:10 PM |
the rest of the world didn't support the Iraq war, doesn't much care for Dubya's war on terror, don't think Hezbollah is a terrorist organization and so forth.
Here is a partial list of the countries involved in the second Gulf War.
Afghanistan
Albania
Angola
Australia
Azerbaijan
Bulgaria
Colombia
Costa Rica
Czech Republic
Denmark
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Georgia
Honduras
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Japan
Kuwait
Latvia
Lithuania
Macedonia
Marshall Islands
Micronesia
Mongolia
Netherlands
Nicaragua
Palau
Panama
Philippines
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Rwanda
Singapore
Slovakia
Solomon Islands
South Korea
Spain
Turkey
Uganda
Ukraine
United Kingdom
United States
Uzbekistan | |
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arri
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Joined: 10/5/2005
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 5:10:29 PM | When one considers the amount of money that France, Germany and Russia were getting from the "Oil for Food" program, their absence from this list is no surprise.
Arri, It is gratifying to see you making fun of other countries. Pretty typical behavior when one has nothing of value to say.
I am sure the UN Resolution on Hezbollah is irrelevant, too ...
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1559 (02 September 2004) called for the "disbanding and disarmament of all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias". The Government of Lebanon is responsible for the disbanding and disarming of the militias, including Hizballah, and preventing the flow of armaments and other military equipment to the militias, including Hizballah, from Syria, Iran, and other external sources. Lebanon basically rejected Resolution 1559, and by early 2005 this presented the risk of Israeli retaliation against vital Lebanese infrastructure to force action to disarm Hizballah. | |
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arri
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Joined: 10/5/2005
Msg: 24 | |
| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 5:23:12 PM | Arri, It is gratifying to see you making fun of other countries. Pretty typical behavior when one has nothing of value to say.
Come on ... We both know that those countries had nothing of value to give besides a name on a meaningless list of countries ... to try to legitimize an illegal war ...
And you are actually quoting UN resolutions that have been broken by enemies of Israel? 
I don't know how many resolutions have been drafted against Israel and how many have been vetoed by the United States. We all know that the ratio is very very very lopsided.
Feel free to continue posting. This is almost as much fun as watching the Colber report. | |
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| Glen Beck----I used to like him, but he is kinda freaking me out
Posted: 11/22/2006 5:35:50 PM | Arri ... The left has been saying no one has supported the war. It is not true. You said the rest of the world does not consider Hezbollah to be a terrorist organization. You were wrong. As for the rest of your post, it is what I have come to expect from the "tolerant left" ... arrogance.
A little helper in regards to intelligent discourse: "come on" is a phrase used by elementary school children.
Example: "Come on, mom, just five more minutes, PLEASE ?" | |
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