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 cyclingmonk

Joined: 10/18/2004
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Posted: 3/29/2005 10:38:17 AM
I was discussing this with a co-worker last week, I recieved two enewsletters in the last week, and it seems that there is a growing acceptance of drugs in sport.

My co-worker is a recreational drug user. He was saying that he'd like to see athletes perform on speed, crystal meth, cocaine, alcohol... whatever could be used to improve performance regardless of repercussions.

A sports/re-hab Enewsletter I subscribe to said:

However, Savulescu has no problem with this because, in his view, taking performance enhancing drugs is not cheating to start with but merely utilising the human capacity for self-improvement and ‘removing the effects of genetic equality’.

‘There is no difference,’ he argues, ‘between elevating your blood count by altitude training, by using a hypoxic air machine or by taking [erythropoietin], but the last is illegal…Nature is not fair…Some gymnasts are more flexible and some basketball players are seven feet tall. By allowing everyone to take performance enhancing drugs, we level the playing field…Far from being unfair, allowing performance enhancement promotes equality.’

The one limit on drug use Savulescu recognises is safety. ‘We do not want’, he concedes, ‘an Olympics in which people die before, during or after competition. Rather than testing for drugs, we should focus more on health and fitness to compete…What matters is what is a safe concentration of growth hormone – not whether it is natural or artificial."
-sports performance bulletin

Personally I got in to competitive sport in the late 1980's and I have bought into all of the anti-drug propaganda---I should add without regret. I wanted to be such a natural athlete that I had to overcome issues when my coach had recommended creatine, protien powders and vitamines 8 years ago. I found it rather disturbing that the UCI (union cyclist international) has taken caffine off the band-substance list. I've also done alot of research in sport history and I've realized that drug free sport is a recent concept from the 1880's untill the 1980s drug were common place.

I'm wondering if I'm alone in my anti-drug stand? Is the concept of drug free sport going to be a 20 year blip that might make the books of sport history? do you feel that drug enhanced sport is a better or worse product than drug free sport? If and athlete achieves on drugs is it still a human achievement? If sports have had drugs in them almost since the beginning is it right to try to remove the drugs from the sports?

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 mufdvr420

Joined: 2/21/2005
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Posted: 4/1/2005 1:19:57 PM
i have said it beofore and i will say it agian, when you take steroids, or other performance inhancing drugs your STILL a man, still can bleed and still can beaten. and your not cheating cause you train hard if not harder than any athlete that isnt taking them. bottom line what are they going to do about all those records smashed by roids? they only think they can do with out forgetting about the pasted player accomplishments and starting over, is move on control steroids. bainning them isnt the answer cause athletes have been passing test for years and will contuiue to do so. i personaly dont think that meth or cocaine will help you in the ring or on the playing field. but for some it might. alcohal on the other hand has been apart of boxing they would get their fighters drunk them have them go out and fight, which in my opinion is STUPID, cause you WILL slow down your reflexes and boxing you NEED quick relfexes. it is up for debate with or not to legalize or bann performance inhancing drugs, but if i had control any player that wishes to compete on that level CAN if he wants too. just my opinion

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 bears2309

Joined: 4/19/2005
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Posted: 4/20/2005 11:02:57 AM
maybe we should have a drug olympics lets see how fast we really can run and how high we can jump isn't the motto high stronger faster?? something like that doesn't say anything about not taking drugs to do that
 tqm

Joined: 10/22/2004
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Posted: 4/25/2005 10:42:21 AM
Even more frightening than that, in a few years the technology will be there to cut & paste genes, so if we accept athletes on drugs, the next step would be genetically altered athletes. Then, instead of pushing the boundaries of human performance, we start pushing the boundaries of what is human.

I have had arguments with people about hyper-hydration (normally using glycerol) which is legal, and has been proved to make a 10-15% difference in endurance events. If you look at something like the iron man, thats a huge difference in performance. I guess the playing field will never really be level, there will always be people with better coaches and better equipment, I just hope that it never gets to the point where the guy with the best pharmacist wins.
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