| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 3:44:44 PM | we have seen them on talk shows. the bald guy w/ a huge gut who gets it on w/ his wife & her best friend. Or the bored housewife who says she is bi & likes to have 3 sums w/ her hubby & another gal. Are they just having some harmless fun, exploring their sexuality, or are they a bunch of dirty perverts who are breeding grounds for stds & more broken relationships???  | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 4:10:38 PM | | Well, my idea of swinging is at the playground, with lots of sand in case I fall off. I have always thought that a sexual relationship is something very special, and is shared with only one person. Swinging, and multiple partners, to me, would be the fastest way to end a relationship. Even if both people are for it, it seems sad that you would have to bring in another person to “spice” up that type of a relationship, not to mention the jealously that is sure to follow. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 4:11:44 PM | Well, I wasn't into the swingers thing when I was young and I for sure am not now......but to each his own, I guess | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 6:14:40 PM | ^^^^Well said.
I have a problem keeping one lady happy at a time...how can I do it with two? Or more. No, not for this guy. Thank you for offering. LOL
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 6:19:20 PM | I myself think sex is supposed to be between two people with a special bond and feelings for each other, a third person would not fit into this catagory. Making love is something very special to me, for my partner and no one else. Just wish I would find that special someone, REAL SOON. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 6:26:39 PM | definately second choice .
[A bunch of dirty perverts who are breeding grounds for STDs and more broken relationships.]
They are all about the sex and I cant imagine a healthy relationship surviving a lifestyle like that. I could never understand people that choose to live like that. Gross ! | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 6:27:31 PM | I knew some swingers once. They lived right across the street for five years. I would have never guessed. They were heavily involved with our church. They did lots of charity work. Always had time for anyone who needed a favor. Never heard even one curse word from either.
Then the ex caught the husband with another woman and hurried home to tattle. The wife knocked her for a loop when she told her that she was going to have the other woman's husband that night. Then she recruited the ex.
I have a theory that your most dedicated swingers hide behind a curtain of extreme propriety. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 6:38:16 PM | | Ever notice most swingers are not that attractive???? And once middle aged.. OMGBUFFY | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 6:45:25 PM |
I myself think sex is supposed to be between two people with a special bond and feelings for each other, a third person would not fit into this catagory.
^^^ditto
Making love is something very special to me, for my partner and no one else.
^^^ditto
Just wish I would find that special someone, REAL SOON.
^^^ DOUBLE DITTO
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 7:08:56 PM | | If I ever find that special man, dang if I will share him with anyone. That is just wrong. Seems to me it is just a relationship of lust. I know there are people on here like that because I have received emails from couples. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 7:18:03 PM | I think a lot of it comes from all the things that are now allowed to appear on TV and movies. Remember the old days when even a married couple had to either be on separate beds or have 1 foot on the floor. Now they get way to graphic. Makes people think that the stuff they see there is the norm. Wouldn't it be great if they could come up with a happy medium? It is hard to choose a movie these days, even Disney is no longer a guarantee.
I guess I'm a prude but I never thought sex was a spectator sport...no extra participants or watchers needed.
If I ever find that special man, dang if I will share him with anyone. ]/quote]
AMEN!!! I couldn't agree more if I'd said it in the first place. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 7:20:11 PM | Oh not the special bond crap again! How special a bond does one have with a twenty dollar crack whore? Just how beautiful is the soul sharing that goes on in the disco parking lot after last call?
For once can't we just call it what it is? It is a raw primal urge. You either control it or you don't, but either way it is still a biological compulsion. My last time, I woke up and looked over at the stranger next to me. I didn't even know her last name. I thought, "why did I bring her here? why am I doing this at all?"
Special bond my right ear. I confess. I will be honest. I have never slept with anyone out of some imaginary spiritual joining. I have used it and had it used against me as a lever. There are women who have been my friends for years and years and years who I am very close to. I never slept with them. I have slept with chicks who I have known for all of 15 minutes though. What kind of bond is that? | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 7:36:48 PM | ah, Diogenes & his lamp found one honest man.
How nice to sleep w/ ideals & dreams in an empty bed. I'd rather sleep next to a fun guy & live my life while I can.
I wonder how many people who have been celibate for sooo long are suffering from "adjustment disorder"....
I'm no swinger, but I'm tired of being a saint. a self-appointed one at that. Nothing wrong w/ lust. Maybe when we get older, love aint the same as when we were 20. Less available people around, & let's face it, none of us are spring chickens.
I don't watch Jerry Springer; I live in the real world though. And I like to be w/ people who aren't so damned afraid of intimacy, love & or sex. Also like people who aren't afraid to live.
It's normal & natural & healthy to want to be coupled. And part of that includes sex. If I went on a date w/ Magic, do you think he'd want to hold hands for 6 months before kissing me? or vice versa?
Different strokes 4 different folks, who am I to tell your neighbors not to swing? | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 8:31:35 PM | "not the special bond crap again!"
Anyone who hasn't felt it, just can't understand it.
No all of us here have had bad relationship, and won't be getting into any either. For some of us, the though alone turns us off.
"raw primal urge" ... could that be the latest excuse for not healing from the past and getting into the next fling.
I am not picking on the person who posted these words. You have the right to your beliefs. The words I took from the post best explained a lifestyle I want no part of. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 8:49:19 PM | | Personally, I don't care if others want to lust or swing, whatever. I just don't think they need to push their values, or lack of them on others. To each his own. And yes, it sounds like Jerry Springer to me, but hey, maybe that is real life, just not the life I want. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 8:57:28 PM | "Special-bond crap" vs. "Raw primal urge."
I've had both. Sometimes with the same person, even. I like both.
About middle-aged swingers, though: I figure some are doing it because their lives are sad and empty. Others are doing it because their lives are joyful and fulfilled. People have different outlooks and have different ways of finding pleasure and contentment. I think it's a mistake for unhappy people who think it will make life better. For those who have made a sincere life-style choice, I don't see the harm to anyone. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 9:08:55 PM | I sure would not want anything to do with it. Maybe if I found myself with some gal that just could not fire up “Junior” .......... nope that would never happen - Junior is part of the Ron9 management team - if he don’t jump up and say YES YES YES - it would never work.
I’ve been single for 3.5 years now and have found sex to be way too free flowing. It is treated like part of a date these says - YUCK. It is NOT just part of a date. Heck there is not even any schmoozing (heat up) anymore - that was most of the fun when I was a kid ......... not anymore they just drop their drawers. It really is a shame. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 9:17:02 PM | | What I am wondering is why no one that is a swinger or had this experience has not answered this thread. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/28/2006 9:42:21 PM |
What I am wondering is why no one that is a swinger or had this experience has not answered this thread. Why should they? I doubt many of them take such pride in sexual disfunction or have such vain envy. | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/29/2006 12:17:29 AM | Ah, so what? Who cares?
Spreading stereotypes, name-calling, and generally hating people for not living their lives as we would is neither attractive nor kind.
I don't think you'd want them dabbling in the privacy of YOUR bedroom so you shouldn't dabble in theirs.
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/29/2006 12:33:26 AM | By the way, anyone who has ever looked at porno or ever had a fantasy about being with more than one person has no grounds for talking about these people in a condescending way. In fact, the word “hypocrisy” comes to mind here.
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/29/2006 1:12:13 AM | Well, back in Arkansas, me and the Mrs. used to play cards with our neighbors, Vern and Fern down the road in our trailer park. One day they told us about a "club" they were in and thought we might like to join. I asked what kind of club that might be and they just smiled and said, "you'll find out. Were having a meeting next Saturday night, why dont you come along?". So we said, why not? So we did and oh, my Lord, we walked into this place and people were all over doing all kinds of unmentionable things. I wont mention what they were doing, but you can just imagine. All kinds of people. Some of the single guys brought along their Judy dolls cuz I guess you had a to have a partner of some kind to get in. Well, Vern and Fern walked up to us naked as jaybirds, they naughty bits were all red and inflamed, they must have been going at it for a while, and said "howdy do?". Me and the Mrs. just looked at eachother and I said, "Vern, what the hay? What's all this? It looks like some kind of a "sex" club thing you got here. I thought we was gonna play in a bridge tournement or somethin". He said, "well, its just some harmless fun, exploring our sexuality". The Mrs. spoke up and said, "Well, it looks to me like youre a bunch of dirty perverts who are breeding grounds for STDS and broken relationships, it does, I reckon". Then Fern spoke up and said, "well, were as healthy as horses and been doing this for 25 years. We's swingers, thats what we is". And then the Mrs. said, "well, I reckon you aint gonna explore MY sexuality, thats for sure, thats a precious thing between me and my hubby". And I said, "damned right it was ....I mean, it is ...". So they just walked off, but before we left we stopped by the gift shop and I bought us one of them Judy and Jim dolls to take home and now we have our own little "club"....but that's another story.  | |
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/29/2006 1:47:56 AM | Why should anyone whose been on the wild side of the fence care to share that perspective when most of what's been posted here is condemnation and self righteous comments about something these self same posters have seemingly never experienced, yet seem all too quick to criticize regardless ?
Some folks live their lives far outside the safe little confines of the average persons abilities to grasp, yet how does that justify criticism ? My own perspective is that all's fair in the sexual realm so long as no one's being physically or mentally abused in the process, but, there are folks who find even those areas stimulating, yet I don't feel as if their practices are inherently wrong just because I don't find them appealing.
Swingers typically hold a different view about what sex means with their mates than they do in what it means in sharing their mate or themselves with others. The lovemaking they share with their partners is exactly that, lovemaking, while with the other people they share themselves with, it's just about sex, desire and satisfaction of an itch a bit outside what a "vanilla" lifestyle would allow for or find acceptable.
As usual, the common tendency for humans is to condemn anything they don't understand and that's a trend being upheld here once more .... Hi ho
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| middle aged swingers ;0p Posted: 11/29/2006 5:43:30 AM | I would have to agree with Kim, most people think with in the box there are comfortable with. And then there are others who choose to step outside their box and experince more then the norm.
Whos to say who's box, (sorry, couldn't help it) is right or wrong? Its like those people who bungie jump, NOT DIRECTED AT ANYONE, I wouldn't even consider doing it, to me it's much more dangerous then having a three some(not saying I have), but it has been offered and I turned it down. But it is something I have thought about, AND if most were honest, you have too, in fantasy.
The only difference between me thinking it and others doing it, is they have steped out of their comfort zone and experienced it. Hell and I would even go as far as asking people questions about the experience, just to here about a new experience, I'm game for that much, but I certainly wouldn't look down my nose at them for it.
Before I get blasted, not saying anyone here is looking down their nose. Just like posting, everyone has a different opinion most of the time, doesn't make any one post better then the other.............JMO | |
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