| California Wildfires
Posted: 12/4/2006 7:17:23 AM | I've never lived in an area that is frequently struck by wildfires. Nor have I lived close enough to the ocean to be affected by hurricanes. I put these 2 disasters in the same category. They happen every year and each time they do, no one seems to be prepared.
WTF California?
Every year more of your forests burn to the ground and along with them goes the houses built in them.
Everytime I hear the same thing about why they are burning wild...the underbrush.
Apparently the treehuggers out on the west coast don't believe in doing any preventative maintenance. You can't leave a tinderbox of kindling just laying all over the ground. You'd think people would have learned this decades ago. At least carve out some firelines.
If you're not going to take measures to stop the fires from burning wild quit whining when they do. | |
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| California Wildfires
Posted: 12/4/2006 7:41:54 AM | the southern california wildfires are due to to primary contributing factors:
1) the area used to be desert. It's naturally hot and but for all the irrigation from the California Acquaduct bringing water from the northern regions of the state and the Hoover dam in the east; the incredible amounts of vegitation in the communities of that area would not be growing there. It's fuel for fires and these fires would happen in an area like that no matter what, simply because of the heat and dried fuel.
2) In California, we have a wind current from the coast into the central valley, caused by the air in the central getting hot and rising, causing a vacuum, which pulls air from the coast underneath of it. This is the reason for the high winds that used to be at Candlestick Park, for instance. It's rarely there at game time, but by 3pm, any ball hit to left field was a wounded duck and any high fly hit to right or right center was an outtie. Hot dog wrappers would blow onto the fence and into the faces of fans sitting out that way.
In rare instances also, fires have been purposely started by layed off firefighters who needed to get back to work. Good thing it's not privatized as in "Gangs of New York". Who knows how many wildfires we'd have THEN???? | |
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Posted: 12/4/2006 9:35:33 AM | The California Department of Forestry and U.S Forest Service has guidlines and information on how to best protect your property for those who live in areas prone to wildfires. It's like anything else though, people don't want to listen or take action before its too late.
Then it's....would of....could of....should of | |
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| California Wildfires
Posted: 12/5/2006 9:53:18 AM | OP.......
I remember watching letterman and one actor ( I forget who) said his uncle was one of the top guy's in the u.s. forestry service . His uncle had told him after retiring that most often man could not do much once a large forest fire started and all the millions of man years of labour trying to contain big forest fires over the years was really a futile waste of time and money, human injury and even loss of life....It all came down to nature ...if it rained and the wind stop blowing , if it got damp and cool, ran out of fuel etc... the fire went out ..if not there was no stopping it ....
I believe this .
But in terms of this post which is a different case.....why is it that the radical environmental agenda seems to be tolerated and even promoted by the establishment? | |
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| California Wildfires
Posted: 12/11/2006 2:17:29 PM | | another big contributary reason for these out of control fires, is that the under growth hasn't been thinned out in years thanks to tree hugging idiots, who don't think man should mess with nature in anyway like having controled burns. remember those massive forrest fires in colorado a few years back, they got outt of control and burned extremely hot due to the very thick (and dry) under growth. | |
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| California Wildfires
Posted: 12/11/2006 6:07:52 PM | | And arsonists nor people that don't put out campfires help.. | |
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Posted: 8/29/2007 7:51:42 PM | | I think all the fires are terrorists activities. It just seems like something cowardly that they would do.. | |
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Posted: 8/30/2007 5:31:21 AM | As the second poster pointed out, if you live in a friggin' desert and grow trees with water, you get fires :)
As for lack of foresting due to tree huggers, that's not correct. The fires are fueled by the scrub on the forest floor before the tall trees, and no logging company is gonna pick that up unless they are forced to--there's no money in that. They will instead pick the tallest trees, so the shade disappears, smaller trees get to grow, and even if they don't leave the debris behind (which they do), you still have floor-level fuel for any fire that comes in. | |
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| California Wildfires
Posted: 11/28/2007 9:09:26 AM | I find it comical that a fellow Texan (the OP) would write the following in 2006:
Apparently the treehuggers out on the west coast don't believe in doing any preventative maintenance. You can't leave a tinderbox of kindling just laying all over the ground. You'd think people would have learned this decades ago. At least carve out some firelines.
From Jan. 1, 2005 to June 14, 2006, Texas experienced 21,007 wildfires, 85% of which occurred less than 2 miles from a community.
Almost 2 million acres burned, 639 homes were destroyed, and there was over $500 million of property damage.
Fire prevention starts at home, dude. | |
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| California Wildfires
Posted: 5/7/2009 6:08:31 PM | I saw on television the other day, the wildfire happening in California and my prayers go out to the people in the midst of it..
There was a fire last week in a town miles from where I live and reporters mentioned that the fire might have been arson at someone's house and it spread to other houses.. Alot of people lost their homes and had to go to shelters or to friends homes, very scary and a sad time for people..
regards | |
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| California Wildfires
Posted: 5/8/2009 11:36:43 AM |
Do you honestly think they have not carved out fire breaks??
They exist the issue it the wind!! It blows embers into dry bush for a VERY long distance. It is a complex issue.
Further blaming "tree huggers" for these fires is about the same as blaming the civil rights movement for racism. It flies in the face of logic. It is called scapegoating. These fires existed LONG before anyone even lived there in great numbers far before any "tree hugger" was born.
If anything the "tree huggers" stand against the right people in this. The logging industry does contribute greatly to the fuel situation because they log the large trees and leave nothing but scrub brush and waste from their work which means the fires burn faster and hotter.
These fires have happened forever! By and large it is part of a natural cycle. The thing where I might agree with someone is that it could be argued that it is foolish to move into the region where fires happen but, people move where worse things happen like earthquakes and hurricanes too. The issue is very complicated.
My prayers are with all of those in harms way in this. I have some dear friends whom live way too close for comfort. Maybe we will get lucky and some rain will come and cool the fires. | |
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Posted: 5/9/2009 5:19:53 PM | My family has been in California since the early 1800's and California had horrid wild fires then, with many homes and lives lost. Native chaparral requires fire to reproduce and reseed. Lightening strikes cause many of our fires. Being a multi climate state much like a country rather than a state we have issues like the Santa Ana winds, and the dryness of the warm winds that dry out the Sierra foothills where I live.
We have had lots of rain a few months ago and more rain this past week. Then we get warm weather and the grass in my yard literally grew one foot in one week. This means cutting the lawn twice a week now. Unless you live here you may not know our fire history.
And no its not tree huggers that are the concern. By the way we are in a drought. And California has more resident than any other state. Sometimes I wish we would break off from the United States, because as a state even in this economy we would be the eight richest economy, and as such the rest of the country would be in deep do do without us!!
~Beth~ | |
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| California Wildfires
Posted: 5/14/2009 2:12:58 PM | Its sad to think, but Wildfires do "Leep",....just like playing "Leep Frog",....
The fire starts,...a gust of dry hot wind picks up a small ember, and carries it over the next hill, or Canyon,....and keeps doing so,....and in effect you dont have ONE Fire to contend with,....you have several.
Talking to a friend from LA, yesterday, and he said that the Home Owners can be included as part of the problem,...unable to SELL their Property,..so they Torch it,....
and then other fires start from it.....
Have not heard much about this being part of the problem, but I can understand how it can be.
The people pointing the finger at Tree Huggers,...and saying that these ares should be cleaned of anything that can be tinder, that would help cause a fire, if ignited,...doesnt understand the huge amount of work that would be required to take on such a job.
California is HUGE,....amoung the dense populated areas, a lot of wooded areas are taken care of,.....but the vast majority of wooded areas just could never be cleaned of the needles,...brush, and stuff that is flamable,.....and with the high winds,..a Fire Line is another waste of time.......
The people of California realize the problem,...more than outsiders do, so please dont second guess them,......they know the dangers,...they know to call 911 at the first sight of a fire,..because they know the dangers associated with the hazards,..and loss of property, better than anyone.
Living in SoCal, and seeing the NO OPEN FLAME signs,....around State Parks, and
National Forest,...reminded everyone of the dangers,....yet some people think they can start a fire, and keep it under control, ......till a strong gust of wind blows embers near and far......and then they were Blamed, and Punished, for starting these Fires.
Id sure hate to be the one, that made a stupid choice, then had to stand in front a Judge
and hear how many homes were destroyed,..the loss of Property,....loss of Life,...loss of Wooded Forest,...then to put the damage into monitary terms and find the damage ammount in the Tens, or Hundreds of $MILLIONS$,......
Real Estate, and Property Values, are NOT Cheap in Calif,.....so if I was a smoker,..Id be care full to make sure that butt, got put out, and in the ashtray,...and NOT out the window of a speeding car.....just to be sure. | |
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| California Wildfires
Posted: 5/16/2009 11:37:25 PM | " Apparently the treehuggers out on the west coast don't believe in doing preventative maintenance "
WELL ......... We just had a brush fire by us today ...... WE have been weed wacking for two months .......
Our property is ...VERY well protected ........ However this brush fire started on LA County property .... and spread to the borders of our property ..... WHY ?? Because the LA County property ....NEVER does any kind of weed abatement !!! Yet they are out there giving us all citations !!
Yo ..... MIKE !! ..... Take a look in your own backyard !!!! Or maybe it's time to RETIRE ??? | |
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