| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/19/2006 10:23:06 PM | (12-07) 13:13 PST EASTPOINTE, Mich. (AP) --
A 23-year-old woman ticketed by police after a friend was talking on a cell phone outside her home following a barbecue has landed in jail for violating the city's noise ordinance.
Judge Norene Redmond of 38th District Court last month sentenced Carmen Granata to 30 days in jail after she pleaded guilty to the violation. A petition signed by neighbors complained that the home was the site of frequent parties.
Granata was ticketed after her friend was talking on her front porch about 4 a.m. Nov. 5. Police in the Detroit suburb had been to the home twice in the previous 12 hours and at 1 a.m. had told people to go into the home.
Her family calls the punishment outrageous, The Macomb Daily of Mount Clemens, the Detroit Free Press and The Detroit News reported. The family has hired a lawyer to try to have the plea thrown out.
"If my daughter had done something to deserve to be in jail, I wouldn't have a problem with it," said Granata's father, Joe Granata, 50, of Warren. "But this is insane."
Lori Shemka, the court's administrator, said neither she nor Redmond will comment on the case because it was still pending.
Carmen Granata also was sentenced to two years of probation with daily breath tests for alcohol and two years of drug tests on a random date each month.
She has been allowed to leave the Macomb County Jail for work as a veterinarian technician and is scheduled to be released Dec. 15. | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/19/2006 11:06:37 PM | We have to share this planet & I get very annoyed when people lack consideration for others. Obviously Carmen Granata is one of these people.
I think the penalty was a bit stiff, maybe 100 hours of community service might have been more appropiate.
I believe there's nothing wrong with whoopin' it up once in a while & pumpin the volume till 4 am or untill everyone passes out or goes home. But not every weekend, go to a nightclub. | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/20/2006 12:22:58 AM | It irritates me when we are in the break room and someone is discussing their problems while on the cell phone loud enough for everyone to hear. we have our own problems we don't want to hear yours. Two years probation is a little harsh but somebody has to put a stop to this madness. | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/20/2006 6:48:21 AM | | They'll never learn. They are much too important, you see. Their problems are much more interesting than your piddling life, and they want to make sure you know all about it. they are practically obligated to shout it out in restaraunts, theaters, and shopping malls - they NEED to relay the minutia of their lives to whoever is on the other end of the line, to get their friend's input on whether to purchase the purse with fringe or the purse without, or their lives have no meaning. So you have to listen, whether you like it or not, because if you don't you'll be complicit in minimizing them as people. And they are much too important for that. | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/20/2006 7:36:29 AM | I don't think people realize that with the technology of cell phones now a days, that you can speak at a comfortable level for those around you and the person on the other end of the phone will still here you. YOU DON'T NEED TO YELL!
Its like when you introduce an older person to someone and they immediatly start yelling as if all old people can't hear. LOL | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/20/2006 7:43:27 AM | There is a technological problem with wireless communication...
Part of my job involves telecommunications and I've been to afew seminars about this.
Land lines with the "twisted pair" wiring have one line dedicated to "echo", which feeds the talkers words back into the ear listening to the receiver. It makes one's own words sound as loud as the person they're conversing with; BUT, cell phones don't have "echo", so one can't hear one's own voice in the ear they're listening with, while they're trying to ignore sounds heard by the other ear to listen to the phone call... SO... they can't shut out outside noises without completely shutting out the sound of their own voice...
*GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR* but people don't realize this when they're talking and even if they do, it's hard not to do it when they're in an environment where other sounds aside from the cell phone are present.
Conclusion: If you want to talk on a cell phone without being guilty of loud talking, or letting everyone else know your business; find a quiet place to talk... away from other people and outside noises..PULLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!!!!! | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/20/2006 8:10:04 AM |
There is a technological problem with wireless communication...
well, excuuuuse me! You sure put me in my place! LOL 
Your right though... if you need to talk to your wife about your previous proctology exam, or if you need to discuss your recent breakup with your best friend, leave the bloody room or tell the other person that your in the middle of a crowded restaurant and will call them back! | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/20/2006 8:33:20 AM | I like that story. If people are disturbing others with loud noises where they cannot escape, that's just plain wrong.
I agree that there is a time and place for cell phone chat, and there's never any reason to yell. If you can't hear, call them back from a quiet place. I talk on the phone when doing things alone, but never yell. When I am out at restaurants, or places I am spending time with other people I don't answer my phone - that's what voice mail is for. Also I keep the ringer down, off, or on vibrate so it's not annoying to others.
And don't get me started on the 2-way thing! Ugh there is a feature on your phone that changes it to the earpiece in quiet places so you can talk without the beeping and loud speaker!
My favorite is people on the treadmill at the gym talking on the cell phone, or in clubs with the Bluetooth attached to the side of their heads. I mean how available do you really need to be? | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/20/2006 9:01:32 AM | Byrd ^^ you're too funny ^^
O/T If anyone is stupid enough to be talking/partying on the porch at 4am and think everyone else is awake, more power to the police. 
Why have people think their cell phones give them a priviledge to be loud, knowing who did what, to whom and why or have a discussion that isn't appropriate in the area you're having that discussion. If your cellphone manners are on vacation, then remember not everyone is going to want to hear it. | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/20/2006 12:43:21 PM | I think there should be some sort of punishment for doing this. I was on the bus the other day and there was a woman sitting directly behind me. She was arguing with someone on the phone (little did I know at first that it was her social worker from welfare). She was yelling at this woman that her daughter absolutely had to have a taxi to her doctor's appointment because it was too stressful. Yelling about how there'd better be a taxi at her door for her daughter in 2 hours or she was going to go down there and "show them". Then she'd hang up, start swearing and then call her back to **** at her some more. In between she'd complain loudly to her daughter (yep, the same one who found it too stressful to take the bus).
Everyone on that bus knew what was going on, and at that point my ears were ringing. She picked up the phone and started dialing again so I turned around, sweet as pie, and asked her if she thought that she was the only person on the bus.....and if she'd like someone to yell in her ear for the better part of an hour like she'd done with me.
She yelled at me...and the bus driver kicked her off. I guess being a **** pays off sometimes. :) | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/20/2006 7:49:50 PM | Lets see,what was the question again?Oh ya, how silly of me to make light of these ^^%$%#$@@#$%^&*((*&^%$## jerks that are talking on the phone every place you go.I go to the grocery store,the barber shop,car wash,resturant,bank,post office,real estate office{I kinda get this one},escrow{this one I can tolerate,since it is usually about somebody handing me some moola},attorney`s office{this one is a little scary,sometimes I think they are trying to pad my bill},little league games,with the grandkids{seems like folks can`t relax and smell the rose`s anymore},the walk-in movies{this one annoyes me to no end},{as you have probably guessed by now,I threw the cell phones away in 2001},western wear store,casino`s{I`m not a gambler,but I do enjoy people-watching},out in the lake fishing{you would think folks could at least relax partaking in this pas-time},the gas station{even in this endevor folks can`t seem to decide what is more important}.Now folks,dont get me wrong,I do see a need for communication,but this is getting a little scary.Now there is one thing that I have been thinking about,and that is just what is going to be my reaction when I finally convince a little fishie to go out with me,and low an behold she done brung her communicater with her.
Now the possible long term ramifications of this could lead to me going crazier than I already would admit to. PS did I leave anything out? | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/21/2006 5:58:19 PM | I think many people think no one is listening to their conversation, even if they sound rude or you enjoy listening to the gossip. I am amazed how many people are so phased out when it comes to personal information in a public area. If I overheard your address, phone number, work schedule and company name, credit card etc, you get the idea, how do you know, someone isn't going to take note and steal your identity.
I personally believe that Identity theft is up, for this very reason, and the lack of privacy giving out particular information, has been toss out the window. If you must make a call, choose wisely and be certain when giving out this information, no one is around paying attention. | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 12/22/2006 4:16:14 AM | If im in public, say walmart and my phone rings and I answer it, I go some place to be more private I find a corner or a aile that is not busy. I do to be respectful of others around me. I make the call as short as possible, then and ask to call them back later. Its incinerate and its disrespectful, cause when you are in a place with background noise you struggle harder to hear them and talk louder without realizing it, and I have even seen people who was talking smack or seemed to be on some kind of ego trip, talking crap on purpose like they was bragging or something, those really erk me.
Recently I was at Jiffy Lube getting my oil changed when this other woman comes in, there is 3 of sitting in this tiny room while they did our cars, the last lady that comes in, calls a friend of hers I guess and she puts her on speaker and the other lady and myself are forced to listen to this conversation we had no desire to hear, we just looked at each other with a eye brow cocked while the 2 on the phone was talking stupid. We could go outside cause it was 20 degrees, I was on the verge of losing it when the other lady beat me to it, she said "Excuse me, do you not see me and this other lady here, we don't want to hear the two of you talking, could you please be more considerate"? The one on the phone got all bent out of shape started arguing with the other lady, when the guy come in and told me my car was done. I was glad to go...lol | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 7/2/2008 11:00:04 AM | I am a public transit user (go green!) and yelling on cell phones is the norm there!
Most of us are stuck on the bus or subway getting to where we need to to make a living
and there is little choice but to "try " to tune cell talks out!
Often, I can hear the person going on at length about a very personal situation
and then ending the call by saying " k I am getting off the bus soon see you then!"
We could ALL have been spared THAT LOUD CELL talking had the person just given it
the few minutes it took to hook up on the other side of their trip, in person!
I am adjusting since this obviously doesn't bother the loud cell talkers.
I use earplugs or earphones with my own music (low enough to ensure no one but me hears it)
I have a sweet, short story about someone "using" a cell phone as a coping mechanism,
and they didnt even REALLY have a cell phone! This, I immediately forgave them for
as I yanked the heartstrings back into my chest this creative act pulled out for me.
I was on the Vancouver to Victoria ferry (sadly seems to be my second home lol)
and two rows in front of me was a young man seated next to a middle aged lady who was ignoring him.
Beside the young man was a slightly older young man who was trying to control the first young man's behaviour
and get him to move to the seats they had both come from. He stubbornly refused giving the standing fellow
the silent treatment with each remark and question from him. As the near monologue by the concerned man continued
it was clear by their speech patterns and body movements both had some mental/brain functioning challenges to live with.
Things started to get heated and the silent man started to make loud unintelligible noises
while banging on the empty seat next to him between the lady in the seat beyond the empty one.
The standing man reached in his pocket and mimed pulling out a cell phone, dialed it
(his open palm actually)and then began talking as he cupped his "phone"hand close to his ear.
His call was to his mother
about the problem at hand. He went on about how he would tell his companion what she had said
and he turned to his friend(possibly brother) and repeated that "he better do as I say right now or
mum would be after him as soon as he got off the ferry." He continued to fake this discussion until the object
of his concern got up and returned to his seat. Yes,the conversation was loud and distracting,
but, it is the first time tears welled up in my eyes, not due to the noise, but due to the creativity
and effectiveness of the strategy (clearly not the first time it was employed)of the "miming
caller". I wouldn't have missed that peek into inventiveness for the world!
Other than that though, I wish people would keep it short and shhhhhhhh!
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 7/2/2008 11:48:13 AM | I had some late teen early 20 something young man talking on his cell phone get in line behind me at a convenience store a couple of months back,
His conversation (loud enough for everyone to hear) went something like this ….
“Hey man you got the stuff ? ok, I’m thinking maybe a QP or more, maybe a whole lb, yea I got the money upfront, tonight?, by tomorrow at the latest, yeah sure, let me get a hold of my homey, yeah probably the whole lb”
As I said his conversation was loud enough everybody in the line could hear every word he was saying. Finally I turned to him and said “ Hey man a little advice … you never know who may be standing around you listening”
He looks at me and says “ so what “ So I said well FYI, I am an off duty police officer, so perhaps you should have that conversation in a little more private of an area”
He just kinda stares at me a moment as what I said sinks in, then he says into his phone “ hey man let me call yo…. He pauses and looks at his phone than back at me and says “ they hung up ? ”
To which I replied “ Yea, I guess they are smarter than you are”
At this point he closes his phone, steps out of the line and hurries out of the store looking over his shoulder (to see if I’m following him I guess)
Everybody else that was standing there watches him go, then they all look at me, then we all just burst out laughing.
Absolutely amazing ….. | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 7/2/2008 11:52:46 AM | Granata's conviction is a positive step toward controlling boorish, inconsiderate behaviour, though in my opinion, the court should also have banned her from owning a cell phone or talking on a cell phone for at least two years, and a steep fine would have been nice also.
What we need are laws against loud cell phone conversations, at least in places like buses, trains and anywhere else where people are packed in close together. The police could bring in a fortune in fines, and everyone's life would be more pleasant as a result. | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 7/2/2008 4:55:10 PM | good!! they were warned, more then once but still did not understand its the LAW.
i can't tell you how many times in my past the cops have been called on my friends and i for being too loud after 11pm. thats when i knew its time to leave.
i've also called the police a few times (after having my son) to complain about parties still going on at 4 am...
i think 30 days would be a little too long though. maybe a night or 2...
the respect that kids have these days is ridonkulous!!! | |
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| WHEN will people talking in public on cell phones not learn to be so DAM LOUD?
Posted: 7/3/2008 3:31:40 PM | | This is the best story to me.. I was in line and in a hurry of course, when the young man ahead of me wanted to purchase a birthday cake with food stamps. He got very irrate when he was told the candles were a non food item and couldnt be purchased on the card.. when His cell phone went off, he answered and preceeded to tell the party how he didnt have any money to buy the candles and what was he to do... I thought, first get a job, then thought, you can afford a damn cell phone but not candles for his kid's birthday cake.. what a winner. | |
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