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 **JLOve**

Joined: 12/11/2006
Msg: 1
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Posted: 1/7/2007 2:09:29 PM
Well I was just wondering.....you know how back in the day..
if a girl was out sleeping around with different guys they were
considered a "Bad girl", however guys continued to ask them out
to get a piece of the action. I was one of those girls that never
got asked out on the "third date" because they figured out
I wasn't one of the "Bad girls". I guess what I'm getting at is, 20 years
later, back out in the dating scene, the only thing that has
changed is, I don't even get to the "second date" (if you know what
I mean). I know sex is important in a relationship (extremely important
to me anyway) , however I feel like rushing into the sex part is highly
over rated. I am no angel....I've done it backwards..and ended up
dating and eventually getting married to the guys. We all see how
that turned out.!! LOL...

Seems like the guys still want the "bad girl" even as we get older. Little
do they know we can be "both bad & good" with the right guy...just
not right away.
My question is....Are the labels still out there, am I considered a
"goody two shoes" just because I won't sleep around right away???
J
 jandrewnelson

Joined: 12/20/2006
Msg: 2
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Posted: 1/7/2007 2:13:42 PM
Wish I could help you...I've gotten a truck load of emails from women that tell me that they want to find a guy like me...

...but they're ATTRACTED to the bad boys...

Go figure
 **JLOve**

Joined: 12/11/2006
Msg: 3
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Posted: 1/7/2007 2:34:56 PM

...but they're ATTRACTED to the bad boys...


Let me guess when they get their heart broke by the bad boy they
come running back for advice..from the "good guy".

I must say that I have been attracted to both good guys and bad guys,
but they all had one thing in common....they just were not the ones for me.

A little mix (like myself) would be nice...just haven't found anyone with the
same morals/values as myself.
A man that does not put any value on sex ....well that's just gross to me. Makes me
wonder who he slept with the night before????
J


 jandrewnelson

Joined: 12/20/2006
Msg: 4
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Posted: 1/7/2007 2:39:07 PM

Let me guess when they get their heart broke by the bad boy they
come running back for advice..from the "good guy".


Yah, it seems to sum it up...

Jerry
 **JLOve**

Joined: 12/11/2006
Msg: 5
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Posted: 1/7/2007 3:01:56 PM
I'm sorry Jer....you'll find her one day...:)

I have found out how really important it is to be happy without
someone before you can be truly happy with someone...does that
make sense?

J
 Panrider57

Joined: 12/25/2006
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Posted: 1/7/2007 3:11:39 PM
Hi,
I'm sure some guys will think that way..if you're not getting to the "second" date, you know what the guy is really after more than likely anyway..I dont view sex on the first date as inherently wrong, sometimes the attraction is strong enough to warrant it, but I certainly dont mind waiting either! lol
And yes I know what you mean about being happyor liking who you are before you can really be happy with another
 pbmac33

Joined: 9/6/2006
Msg: 7
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Posted: 1/7/2007 3:35:45 PM

I guess what I'm getting at is, 20 years
later, back out in the dating scene, the only thing that has
changed is, I don't even get to the "second date" (if you know what
I mean).


C'mon JLO, are you serious?

Either you're just dating the wrong men, or the guys aren't into you. Any clown that is going on the first date expecting sex is an a***. I've been on a few first dates from POF, and didn't ask for a scecond date. It wasn't because they wouldn't sleep with me (I never asked) but because I just wasn't into them. With that being said, they might not have been into me either! It's certainly a two way street!

Are these yahoos actualy asking for sex? or just not calling for a second date after a fairly normal first date?
 Kyn269

Joined: 11/7/2006
Msg: 8
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Posted: 1/7/2007 3:57:43 PM

A little mix (like myself) would be nice...just haven't found anyone with the
same morals/values as myself.



This I must agree with....whole heartedly..... but like you, I just don't know the answer, I have been attracted to both in the past...

hopefully someone with more insight can open this up with their view points...Thnx JLOve...


Kyn
 **JLOve**

Joined: 12/11/2006
Msg: 9
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Posted: 1/7/2007 4:25:57 PM

Are these yahoos actualy asking for sex?


usually before you even go out with them! the guys I have talked to
on here that seemed nice...always end up talking smack i.e. how do
you like it? do u like to spoon? do you want a pic of my d....?etc....
I'm not sure if they are just asking to see what I will say...or just
trying to see if we are compatiable in the bed....
This scares me ...I can only imagine what the first date would be
like....so I just don't go.
I guess the so called nice guys are too shy to approach or waiting
for me to approach....LOL....
J
 **JLOve**

Joined: 12/11/2006
Msg: 10
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Posted: 1/7/2007 4:27:32 PM
hey KYN....congrats on the quote box! yeah....
J
 thinga

Joined: 10/2/2006
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Posted: 1/7/2007 4:35:45 PM
Well JLove, it looks to me like pbmac just gave you an open invitation to contact him in one of those other threads! There ya go...
 **JLOve**

Joined: 12/11/2006
Msg: 12
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Posted: 1/7/2007 4:59:46 PM

Well JLove, it looks to me like pbmac just gave you an open invitation to contact him in one of those other threads


Ok damit...I did it....LOL
j
 Kyn269

Joined: 11/7/2006
Msg: 13
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Posted: 1/7/2007 5:02:55 PM
Thanks JLOve.... took me long enough...lol
kyn
 Wolfie888

Joined: 11/18/2006
Msg: 14
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Posted: 1/7/2007 6:01:17 PM
I never quite figured out why the sexual urge of men and women differ so much. And I never have figured out the whole Venus and Mars thing.

I have never figured out why men think with their head and women with their heart.

FOR EXAMPLE:

One evening last week, my girlfriend and I were getting into bed.
Well, the passion starts to heat up, and she eventually says, "I don't feel like it, I just want you to hold me."

I said, "WHAT??? What was that?!?!"

So she says the words that every boyfriend on the planet dreads to hear....

"You're just not in touch with my emotional needs as a woman enough for me to satisfy your physical needs as a man."

She responded to my puzzled look by saying,"Can't you just love me for who I am and not for what I can do for you in the bedroom?"

Realizing that nothing was going to happen that night, I just went to sleep.
The very next day I opted to take the day off of work to spend time with her. We went out to a nice lunch and then went shopping at a big,big unnamed department store. I walked around with her while she tried on several different very expensive outfits. She couldn't decide which one to take, so I told her we'd just buy them all. She wanted new shoes to compliment her new clothes, so I said, "Let's get a pair for
each outfit."

We went on to the jewelry department where she picked out a pair of diamond earrings. Let me tell you....... she was so excited. She must have thought I was one wave short of a shipwreck. I started to think she was testing me because she asked for a tennis bracelet when she doesn't even know how to play tennis.

I think I threw her for a loop when I said, "That's fine, honey." She was almost nearing sexual satisfaction from all of the excitement.
Smiling, with excited anticipation, she finally said, "I think this is
all dear, let's go to the cashier."

I could hardly contain myself when I blurted out, "No honey, I don't feel like it."

Her face just went completely blank as her jaw dropped with a baffled, "WHAT?"
I then said, "Honey, I just want you to HOLD this stuff for awhile.
You're just not in touch with my financial needs as a man enough for me to satisfy your shopping needs as a woman."

And just as she had this look like she was going to kill me, I added, "Why can't you just love me for who I am and not for the things I buy you?"

Apparently, I'm not having sex tonight either....but at least that
**** knows I'm smarter than her.Peace-Out
 blu_byu

Joined: 8/22/2006
Msg: 15
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Posted: 1/7/2007 6:28:11 PM
Ok, what did you do to Wolfie? THAT is not his style of writing, nor is it how he normally types. What happened to all the grammatical and spelling errors????







That was a really funny anecdote, tho.


OP~~ I think that for men in general that use the internet, it's a lot easier to ask for sex from a virtual stranger than it is to ask for it from someone they just met in person. I think the typical mundset is that "everyone on the internet is looking for sex, whether they say it or not". I am not saying that's what the MAJORITY of people do, simply stating one possibility of what could be occurring. Speaking only for myself, I find it hard to be intimate with a woman without an emotional attachment first. Been there, tried it, didn't like it because it was missing the one thing that would make it special. Perhaps that is what happens to those of us that find ourselves single after being with only one person for so many years?

Hell, I wish I knew the concrete answer to your question, tho. I am not what you would consider a "bad boy", merely another "good guy" that the women want to pour their hearts out to when the shyte hits the fan. Se la vie.
 **JLOve**

Joined: 12/11/2006
Msg: 16
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Posted: 1/7/2007 6:43:33 PM

Apparently, I'm not having sex tonight either....but at least that
**** knows I'm smarter than her.Peace-Out


U did mean smarter ASS right?

 **JLOve**

Joined: 12/11/2006
Msg: 17
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Posted: 1/7/2007 6:49:56 PM

Ok, what did you do to Wolfie? THAT is not his style of writing, nor is it how he normally types. What happened to all the grammatical an


I tend to bring out the best in people.....

JLove......it's all the love ........
 whirlybird3

Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 18
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Posted: 1/8/2007 8:56:12 AM
Well, from my perspective, guys want a little bit of both. An equal mix that dilutes toward good or bad depending on the situation.

A woman that is a Bad Girl all the time is too difficult to try and make something last with. Would you really want an all-the-time Bad Girl to take to your office christmas party for example? No; she'd drink all the alcohol and pee on the rug. If she makes plans at the spur of the moment, you can never really plan anything.

A woman that is a Good Girl all the time usually tends to be the one that is unwilling to try new things that might lead to getting into trouble. Let's say that a man is dating a woman. They are driving down the road one night and they see a strip club. The man, just to shake things up, asks if she wants to go in. She may have never been to one and has always been curious as to what really goes on inside, but never has because of the the Good Girl aspect.

But the mix that I spoke of is the right balance. Someone that knows when to be good, but knows how and when to be bad, or at least adventerous. Maybe even a little dangerous.

My $0.02
 SapphyreSkye

Joined: 12/20/2006
Msg: 19
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Posted: 1/8/2007 9:28:49 AM
I wonder the same thing about the "labels", and find that most people in my age range (I'm 50) would absolutely, positively LOVE to label me as a "bad girl" simply because I have a healthy sexual appetite. The initial reaction to 'healthy sexual appetite' is generally interpreted as meaning I'll go to bed with almost anybody at any time -- WRONG. Like you, I've done things the 'right way' and the 'wrong way'; hey, I'm human, and I still make mistakes (and a few good choices, too!).

You hit the ol' nail smack on the head when you said..."Little do they know we can be both 'bad & good' with the right guy...just not right away."
 jandrewnelson

Joined: 12/20/2006
Msg: 20
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Posted: 1/10/2007 2:54:32 AM

I have found out how really important it is to be happy without
someone before you can be truly happy with someone...does that
make sense?


Makes perfect sense...and just for the record...I'm perfectly happy with ME...I know this might sound egotistical...but I LIKE ME..I'm OK WITH ME...I like who I am as a person and as a man...I'm not pefect by any stretch, but I'm OK with where I am today...and I'm just dumb enough to believe that one day the right lady will show up and we'll be OK WITH US...until then...I'm gonna continue to be happy with Jerry!




And some of the best sex I've had over the past 10 months, I've been by myself.

Jerry

NOTE TO SELF: STOP TELLING EVERYTHING YOU KNOW...SHEESH
 AgelessWonder

Joined: 4/12/2006
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Posted: 1/10/2007 5:25:10 AM
^^ If you can't love yourself, how can you expect anyone else to?
 thinga

Joined: 10/2/2006
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Posted: 1/10/2007 7:40:35 PM

And some of the best sex I've had over the past 10 months, I've been by myself.

Jerry


Way too much information, Jerry!
 One time, one chance

Joined: 11/6/2004
Msg: 23
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Posted: 1/10/2007 8:03:03 PM

I find it hard to be intimate with a woman without an emotional attachment first. Been there, tried it, didn't like it because it was missing the one thing that would make it special.


i have to agree with Blu, I was married for 8 years, and being single now, I find it hard to just go sleep with anyone. I have to have some emotional feelings, and some kind of chemistry. I can't just go be with anyone. If there is enough chemistry , we can go from there but the sleeping with someone on a first date thing .. you just got to be safe now days , your never really sure what is out there, and yeah there is condoms but still who knows. I got to agree OP I think that it's ok to wait and get to know someone.

OTOC
 Ruthannah

Joined: 10/27/2006
Msg: 24
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Posted: 1/10/2007 8:07:17 PM
Never had any interest whatsoever in a "bad boy." Life is complicated enough already. And I'm sure I wouldn't be considered by any stretch of the imagination a "bad girl." I don't get the appeal of either one. I like whirlybird's word, though, adventurous. I think I can muster adventurous in the right context with the right person, but to the rest of the world.....I'm quite boring. Also, whoever said that you have to be happy with yourself before you can learn to be happy with another is dead-on, as far as I'm concerned (was that in this thread or another....it's late, and I can't remember). I'm comfortable in my own skin and march to my own tune, so the "bad boys" are completely available for any ladies that are interested in them, as I don't give them a second glance.

OT: I know this isn't the good night thread, but I'm tired and this is the only post I have enough energy for, so good night and sweet dreams all of Georgia (and anyone else in the rest of the world who's lurking on these threads).



Ruthannah
 more2methanthat

Joined: 12/22/2006
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Posted: 1/11/2007 8:49:08 AM
Honestly, JLove, why do mature, experienced women such as us care about labels others may put on us?? Haven't we earned thr right to "march to the beat of our very own drummer" at our ages? If a guy is going to label me one way or the other, simply because I do or don't put out right away...is not worth my time or energy.
This is too funny...the same song keeps running through my mind..I think Charlie Pride sang it...the one about kiss an angel in the morning, and love her like the devil all night long...that's me personified...I am and appear to the common eye to be a "good girl" in the daylight and at work, but when the sun goes down and I am on my time, I am the "ultimate bad girl"...if being exciting, and funny, and brave to take chances makes me a bad girl in others eyes. so be it. And on the other hand, if having values and respect for myself makes me a good girl, then I welcome that label too. I only have to look at my own reflection in the mirror and the eyes of my children.
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