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Posted: 1/9/2007 2:24:13 PM | What words/meanings, grammer or punctuation do you struggle with?
OK...I have a mental block on the difference between presume & assume...so I don't use them in my vocabulary.
Why can you be presumptious...but no-one is ever assumptious? *scratches head*
If don't is abbreviation of do not, can't is can not...what's wont? Or is it won't?
Is it only humans & animals that are hanged...& objects are hung?
The difference between Aboriginee, & Aboriginal? (Yes, I know the correct term is indiginous for a person, before anyone starts  )
I have to stop & think before deciding to say lend or borrow...common scouse mix-up 
When do you use this ;...or this :
*Watch & learn with Lily* 
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Posted: 1/9/2007 2:29:13 PM | I find I have to think hard about whether to use "affect" or "effect" in certain circumstances.
Loads of site members find it difficult to use the term "should HAVE", as they mistakenly say "should OF" , for some reason.
Aborigine refers to the noun, whilst Aboriginal refers to the adjective.
"lend" is performed by the one who is lending - "borrow" is performed by the one who is borrowing. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 2:46:38 PM | Wont is the abbreviation of will not. 
To assume is to undertake; to take for granted, to presume is again to take for granted or to undertake without proper authorization. Preety much the same thing mithinks! 
You are right you cant be assumptious, however you CAN be assumptive which is the act of assuming.
I dont think humans and animals are hanged.... isnt it hung?
To hang is to suspend or be suspended, so once it has been done they are 'hung' I could be wrong....
As for ; or : i haven't a clue, i rely on my Word spell check to sort that out for me! | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 2:51:08 PM | MSG 3 "I believe "effect" is a verb, such as "effecting a change."
Yes, that is correct, but you can also be "affecting a change", if you amend an aspect of that change to alter the impact that change has!
I'm so glad that I learned English first. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 2:55:52 PM | I find I have to think hard about whether to use "affect" or "effect" in certain circumstances.
Forgot about that one...me too.
Loads of site members find it difficult to use the term "should HAVE", as they mistakenly say "should OF" , for some reason.
Never even considered that one. Gawd. Probably guilty of that too.
Aborigine refers to the noun, whilst Aboriginal refers to the adjective.
Got it. I think. ...would even help if I'd spelt aborigine correctly LOL :/
"lend" is performed by the one who is lending - "borrow" is performed by the one who is borrowing.
I should of said also...I'm never sure if I'm a lender or a borrower...although that makes perfect sense...
VVV
Thankyou Lord Evil...you can be quite assured I knew that already. I simply find it less...formal :P | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 2:56:58 PM | | Mine has to be the use of fullstops. Maybe it is the amount of time I didn't spend in school, but I am pretty sure the you only got one fullstop at the end of a sentence Lily. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 3:07:42 PM | I was at a Stop the War meeting on monday. They have printed loads of leaflets, and someone said there was a typo in this phrase
"the majority of the British people has rejected the government's policies..."
Now people speaking would say have, but grammatically, "the majority" goes with has, as it is singular. Which one is correct???? | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 3:12:21 PM | If you get confused with the lending/borrowing just try and remember that the library lends the book, and therefore you borrow it.
With assume and presume, I always use them as, presume is assuming in advance, assume is assuming now, I could be wrong though!
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Posted: 1/9/2007 3:14:39 PM | "the majority of the British people has rejected the government's policies..."
Now people speaking would say have, but grammatically, "the majority" goes with has, as it is singular. Which one is correct????
but majority is lots of people not one!
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Posted: 1/9/2007 3:16:35 PM | "Wont" means habit or custom. "Won't" means will not. :-)
A colon ":" indicates that a list or summary of what comes before is to follow. (Confused? I am....)
A semicolon ";" can be used to split up distinct parts of a sentence, such as a list.
For example, this list has three parts:
- part one;
- part two; and
- part three.
Are your eyes feeling heavy yet?
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Posted: 1/9/2007 3:17:01 PM | Message 4...
It's definately "hanged"...weirdly enough!!!
If won't is an abbrievation of will not...why isn't the word "win't"? I reckon won't is really an abreviation of would not!!!
Simon...I would say have. So it is majority has...& majorities have? Doesn't sound right, even if it is | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 3:22:48 PM | Loads of site members find it difficult to use the term "should HAVE", as they mistakenly say "should OF" , for some reason.
Msg 2 - It's because should've sounds more like "should of" than "should have".
If won't is an abbrievation of will not...why isn't the word "win't"? I reckon won't is really an abreviation of would not!!!
Msg 12 - That's wouldn't! :-)
Msg 14 - I suppose it's the same as any spelling mistake: we tend to spell words as we hear them. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 3:25:10 PM | MSG 8 "I was at a Stop the War meeting on monday. They have printed loads of leaflets, and someone said there was a typo in this phrase
"the majority of the British people has rejected the government's policies..."
Now people speaking would say have, but grammatically, "the majority" goes with has, as it is singular. Which one is correct????"
I hate to say it, but the unwashed Lefties have got it right - "the majority" of anything is singular, so the correct verb is "has", which is the third person singular.
If we were talking about plural "majorities", then the word would be "have" , as in "the majorities of Labour's recent election victories have been showing a marked downward trend".
MSG 13 I can understand them saying, it, but not writing it! | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 3:43:18 PM | YAY!!! I'm right!!!
*Runs around enthusiastically slapping self on back*
Quote: *moistening eyebrow*...
Won't...This contraction for "would not" would at one time been punctuated with two apostrophes to indicate where letters have been omitted (wo'n't).
I'll stop peeing my pants as if I discovered penicillin now. Promise. 
To assume something to be the case is to take it for granted without any proof.
To presume is to base it on evidence available.
Affect & effect...hang on to your hats...I so know your waiting with baited breath for the next enthralling revalation now shameless has finnished... | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 3:53:17 PM | hiya! ...not had time to read all through the string but has anyone commented on the fact that it should be Grammar.... not Grammer!!
...just thought I'd mention it! | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 3:54:16 PM | hiya! ...not had time to read all through the string but has anyone commented on the fact that it should be Grammar.... not Grammer!!
...just thought I'd mention it! | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 4:00:15 PM | No Lily and you are full of yourself if we think we are, or am I speaking out of turn for all others on the planet.
Affect the outcome of a decision, effect the outcome of a consequence. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 4:08:44 PM | who rattled your cage your lordship?
Do not take it upon yourself to speak on my behalf.
Lilly - I'm waiting with bated breath. Or would that be baited? I know not. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 4:11:03 PM | Message 16 (& 17 lol)
D'oh!!! ...thanks!!! 
Lord Evil...
Ever heard of the saying "Tongue in cheek?" FFS
I'm sorry you feel perturbed by my sense of humour...& ability to take myself lightly...but that's your problem. Wishing you well. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 4:13:58 PM | I am waiting in anticipation to see the effect / affect Evils comments have on Lilly
I dont understand where that comment came from
i shall wonder if he should of / have said that to the liverpudlian firecracker, or should that be fire cracker?
Edit for Evil
Don't you fall and bang your head when you get off of that high camel of yours now, will you? | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 4:19:29 PM | That would only be if you were directing your answer to msg 16 or 17. As for tongue in cheek you should know that unless you state that from the start, on forums such as this, it is very hard to to make that implication by the words that you use. BTW
I actully meant what I said in my previous post and would be obliged if you could ridicule me in a private message so that I could correct your grammar in private and not have the entire forum snigger at you. | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 4:29:48 PM | I teach literacy amongst other things and I can safely say I'd rather teach French or German, its so much easier than the English language.
*msg 24, dont use other forum users names in the thread, agasint the rules I believe!* | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 4:35:52 PM | Lord Evil. The entire forum would not be sniggering at me. I suggest you get over yourself...& join alot of others that already have.
I don't wish to have my grammar corrected in private, thankyou for the kind invitation. I wish to paticipate in a discussion in a forum. I did not ridicule you, that's projection.
You can't appreciate my humour, I can't appreciate your problem...but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce. Never mind spell.
I'm sorry if I appear rude, it's just your opinion is insignificant. IMO. BTW. 
Do you have something constructive to contribute?
Back on topic...the difference between avenge, & revenge...
^^^ Kisses to Geordie Girl & LA!!! XXX :P
Cheers message 24!!! | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 4:46:47 PM | I like the thread so I thought I would post.....
always thought avenge was on someone's behalf, and revenge was a direct retaliation to something that had happened.
But as I said, I thought I would just post! | |
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Posted: 1/9/2007 5:03:58 PM | If you avenge, you obtain revenge.
And if anyone needs that explaining to them, feel free to ask. | |
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