| | Do homosexuals need to be protected from religious bigotry?Page 1 of 5 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) | All the rage in the news this week is religious factions taking court actions against new homophobia laws being introduced in may, that may lead to the prosecution of those of tender sensibilities should they display persecution to those with unsavoury abilities.
In a nutshell; God botherers could end up in the nick if they refuse to let rooms in their guest houses on the basis that they suspect there's gonna be some man on action, or similar.
If you were a business owner, would you agree with the new laws which are going to be introduced with regard to this, especially if providing services to a certain section of society goes against your religious beliefs? Would you fight for your right to judge who you should earn a few shekels off or not?
Who would rather throw the Christians to the lions than feed a hungry horde of lesbians... what if you were fundamentally against letting your peers see that you have sold hosiery to a gay man? Would you simply turn the other cheek or bend over backwards to help them out?
The choice is yours.
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Posted: 1/11/2007 1:09:34 PM | If you have been a christian all your life and went by there teachings, why should you all of a sudden change your views of a lifetime to accomidate what you think is wrong
A lifetime is hard to change
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| Do homosexuals need to be protected from religious bigotry?
Posted: 1/11/2007 1:14:02 PM | Religion causes more problems then politics, race, sexuality etc etc etc, personally I say live & let live but no one should have the right to discriminate against another person etc, so by bringing in the law we are discriminating against persons with certain religious beliefs and by not bringing in the law we are discriminating against gay persons, hmmmmmm
easy solution...ban religion lol | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 1:18:43 PM | i agree with miss gerrad.
BUT i also think religion is a big problem in this world,
millions of millions of people would be condemd to hell if it was up to religion from gays, single parents, couples living in sin, and so on
do we all need to be protected from religious bigotry or does religion need to come kicking and screaming into the 21st century | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 1:31:17 PM | Well what businessperson in their right mind would not want to earn a crust and then some for his/her family, whomever they sell their services or goods too ?
Isn't capitalism the new religion ?
There should be laws for putting screwball business owner's in asylum's for being so nutty as to not want to provide goods and services to people who have different tenets to their own. I hate bigots, lock them all up and throw away the key !! | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 1:51:11 PM | I don’t think that anyone should be discriminated against or persecuted because of their sexual preference. Anyone, be it God fearing Christians or Joe Blogs from down the road should be disciplined in some form. Imprisonment I think may be a little harsh, especially as prisons are already overcrowded….perhaps a fine or a warning, depending on the severity of the crime.
I think the new laws are fair and just, as I have already commented you can’t discriminate on the basis of colour, age or beliefs, why should sexual preference be any different?
I do empathise though that if you are strongly against homosexuality as it goes against all your beliefs then it may be difficult to have to push these feelings to one side. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 2:02:10 PM |
that may lead to the prosecution of those of tender sensibilities should they display persecution to those with unsavoury abilities.
What on earth are unsavoury abilities ????
The ability to take a large fruit up the bottom?
You say man on man action, so presumably mutual muff munching is allowable ... ? I'm only asking???
Me personally, as long as they kept their bodily emissions off the flock wallpaper and didn't damage the silk screen painting of the Blue Boy above the bed, then I couldn't care less... | |
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willow
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| Do homosexuals need to be protected from religious bigotry?
Posted: 1/11/2007 2:53:49 PM | MSG 1 "God botherers could end up in the nick if they refuse to let rooms in their guest houses on the basis that they suspect there's gonna be some man on action, or similar."
The hotelier you are alluding to was quite happy to give them a room with twin beds, but he objected to them sharing a double bed as they weren't married.
OT Why is it that this country "bends over backwards" to cater for religions, yet refuses to acknowledge the fact that Christianity, Judaism and Islam all forbid homosexuality?
We are going to reach the point where we ask "OK, who's rights are the greater in this particular situation?"
It's like the smoking thing - everyone has the right to smoke ( yes, I'm rabidly against it, but they have the right to do it) but, equally, everybody has the right NOT to have smoking inflicted upon them. So, the balance is that smokers aren't going to be allowed to smoke in enclosed spaces where non-smokers might be.
So, whose rights are going to be upheld? The religious objector, or the homosexual? | |
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willow
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| Do homosexuals need to be protected from religious bigotry?
Posted: 1/11/2007 2:58:10 PM | I dont know what his problem is then, only one bed to change the next day.
And if I was with someone I wouldnt mind doubling up in a single bed, more fun..
And how does he know thay were going to have sex, I dont tell any proprioter of a guesthouse my sexual or non sexual intentions whan I book a room..
Maybe just his imagination getting carried away.. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 3:08:56 PM | | Religion has taught that homosexual practices are not allowed, for thousands of years, all of a sudden catholic priests have been having second thoughts about it ,saying well maybe its ok now, same as christians, gay priest, gay vicars are crawling out of the woodwork everywhere! I also thought that we were to go forth and multiply which is why i don`t get the celibacy bit, but thats a whole new thread sorry, what has changed, nowt, except are day and age has become filled with every sort of pervesion under the sun, and i aint calling gay perverts just stating that sex and sexual practices seems to come to the fore a lot these days in the church | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 3:14:54 PM | Well like a lot of things it's a problem because of a noisy minority.
What people should be asking is what are their rights as human beings not because they are poofs or muslim black green or whatever.
A lot of posters claim religion causes lots of wars. That's bo****ks too. People start wars, I think all the major religions in the world are about peace. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 3:37:10 PM | NIGEL 42: good point about human rights, but sorry mate, cant agree with religions wanting or standing for peace, i`m not doubting your general knowledge, but when it comes to religion, and, starting in our own back yard, the bible stories are full of war and violent acts, what about the atrocieties commited in the crusades, lets also look at the torture inflicted on innocents (thousands upon thousands) in the inquisition, and thats just a couple of grains of sand picked from a desert!!
war in the name of religion has been rife since organised religion was first introduced into society, and the evidence is all around us to see today.
was the irish problem not catholic verses protestant?
is a big part of the iraqi problem not shi`ite verses sunni?
do i carry on, or have i made my point!
make love not war, people are inclined to knock jehovas witnesses for certain beliefs, includ ing me, but they are one of the few branches of christianity who have always refused to go to war, and how were they rewarded in the great war? they were murdered by their own people. the british!!!. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 3:40:48 PM | Christianity has been based on the powerful male, and the weaker female since it was even concieved, such bullshit is bound to have closed mind views about anything else..
change faith. or stop believing basically.. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 3:40:54 PM | MSG 16 "the bible stories are full of war and violent acts,"
Yes, because the Bible is telling a story. If a war cropped up, you cannot blame the Bible for mentioning it, can you?
The sections devoted to the Gospel are devoid of instructions to kill non-believers unles they are a threat.
MSG 20 And we used to hang people for stealing food! | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 3:41:52 PM | tell me where it tells you in the Bible, torra or Koran to kill people
Leviticus: If a man has sex with his father's wife, kill them both. 20:11
If a man has sex with his daughter in law, kill them both. 20:12
If a man has sex with another man, kill them both. 20:13
"No further questions your honour." | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 3:49:57 PM | Msg 16 If you think the Ireland problem was about religion you are very confused.
That was about what gang ran the drugs rackets and prostitution. That and politics the fact that the fractions were split mainly on religious grounds has little to do with it | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 3:53:17 PM | For goodness sakes
Live and let live,..... Merkin, I do not honestly know why you are quoting the Jehovas, they are one of the most intolerant religions around. They despite homosexuality just as much as any other religion, and they say that if you refuse to call God jehova then you will go to hell. They show their children really vicious cartoons that show jehova flooding the earth, non jehovas are set on fire and sent to hell, yet jehovas hand comes down and saves the jehovas....
load of old bollox | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 3:55:42 PM |
was the irish problem not catholic verses protestant?
Nope it wasn't actually, it was the Loyalists versus the Nationalists, about Irish Nationalists fighting to regain the country which is rightfully theirs......of course we all know part of the problem in the North of Ireland is the latent bigotry that the Catholics are subjected to daily up there but that is certainly not by the majority of Protestants but it prevented Catholics from securing certain jobs etc and positions of power in the past. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 4:05:09 PM | My two wee brothers are JW`s, and i respect thier religion, in fact it has very high moral standards,no sex till you marry, both are married and respected that , the fact that god`s name is jehovah and was actually mentioned in the bible over 6,000 times, till some superstitious person decided to leave it out, goodness even indianna jones new it(in the temple of doom or one of those) lol, they don`t drink to excess, take drugs etc, don`t practice homosexaulity, don`t go to war, don`t celebrate christmas birthdays etc, having first hand knowledge of what they practice, i`d say if there where more of them in the world it would be a better place, and no they don`t force it down my throat ever, they live by bible rules, ok they preach round the doors, but all you have to say is no thank you, they think that the world as we know it is going to end and are trying to save people
To the lady above, noteably a sympothiser with the IRA, there`s good and bad on both sides, just recently my friend won here case agaisnt intimidation fron catholics, so don`t go jumping the gun when you obviously don`t know what your talking about. And what about Omagh, didn`t that women get killed with her twins still in her belly! | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 4:50:48 PM | Miss Gerrard, I do not sympathise with any terrorist group, I don't believe that any kind of activity like that is the right way to win a war. I would have empathised with the ultimate goal of the now decomissioned IRA as I am an Irish national and consequently a nationalist so naturally I would like to see a united Ireland, but not by having blood spilled or unborn children murdered, but that is all history now and hopefully everyone is enjoying the relative peace in the North at present.
And I certainly don't agree that because someone doesn't share your beliefs that you have an excuse to intimidate them by black balling them, by ganging up on them and bullying them or by refusing to sell them things, nobody has the right to refuse to provide people with essential goods because you don't agree with their chosen lifestyle. | |
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Posted: 1/11/2007 5:10:35 PM | Yes i agree with you and am enjoying the peace as are most of the people i know, my friend who works for the goverment, is a civil servant had years of intimidation in the workplace until she took it to equal oportunities and complained, she was ganged up on and bullyed to the point were she ended up on anti-depressants, cryed all the time, they moved her to another office. I see where your loyalties lie as your are a nationalist, i personally don`t want a united ireland, i think its fine the way it is, power sharing ok, don`t want the euro, but hey we willl probably get it anyway. My dad lives in swords in dublin.
sorry got completely off the subject there, i think gays ect are always gonna get flack no mater what they do, an ancient religon suddenly changing thier veiws, a bit suss to me, can we change the bible? answer no, we can`t ,because it states quite clearly in the last book of revelation "if anyone makes an addition of these things, god will add to him the plagues, that are written in these scrolls" | |
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