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Posted: 1/15/2007 10:40:07 PM | alright, when living in toronto, you barely hear about the Raptors. But hey, this team may be 17-21 right now...but they are first right now in their division and have won more games then last year lol I think its time for toronto fans to give this team a chance. Raps are looking good. Despite they arent ready to contend, they can do some damage. I've actually seen more raptors games then leaf games and i think i made the right choice so far :P
Any raptors fans out there? come on! | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 10:53:42 PM | They've got a good team...but I'm not sure if Mitchell is the right guy to be coaching them. When you look at all the new guys on the team: Garbo, Andrea, Ford, Humphries, Parker...Rasho. I'm probably missing a couple, but their starting 5...Bosh, Rasho, Garbo, Ford and Parker...none of 'em have played together before this year.
There's some things they still need to work on...Bosh needs to squeeze the ball tighter so it doesn't get slapped away so often down low...Ford needs to be feeling it before he starts jacking up shot after shot and missing.
I really like their chances for the long term. Hell...even this year, if they make the playoffs (I think they will) they could suprise some teams. Look at their roster...they've got 7 or 8 guys who can put up 20+ pts on any given night. With a team that deep...if a guy isn't shooting well, then feed the hot man. Parker was on fire early against Dallas, then for some silly reason they stopped giving him the ball.
They're strong...really strong...but they get lazy and stop going into the paint when they get a big lead. Give 'em time though, and maybe a better coach. I really like Mitchell...but he's on a learning curve and this is a young team that needs a veteran coach I think. | |
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Posted: 1/15/2007 11:32:55 PM | I've been a Raptor fan from the beginning with Damon and then Camby the following year.
I believe the Raptors have an excellent opportunity to make the playoffs. How far they will go is anyone's guess. I agree that they need more work and expereince together. What I find amazing is more the half the team are new comers after letting go of 2 or 3 starters from last year. I don't think there has been a team out there that has done as good as a job as the Raptors have with so many new faces. And the awesome thing is they are in a weak division.
I get upset with the team when they have a good lead and blow it and the game at the end. I wish they stay competitive through out the whole 48 min, for sure they'll be above the 50/50 mark. | |
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Posted: 1/16/2007 3:44:51 AM | | You sound like you are getting delusional already, kiddo, what's next pigs are going to fly? | |
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Posted: 1/16/2007 5:59:56 AM | I completely agree with you EnglishFrog, they have good players and they are getting better on a game to game basis.
But we need a new coach, I mean the Smitch is great if you're looking for sarcastic and witty remarks, but when it comes to coaching he's not the brightest. He's learning and gettin better too, but with Colangelo I don't think that's enough to secure his job (although if they do make the playoffs, firing him would seem crazy, plus his players have his back).
But I think that their biggest mistakes on a gamely basis are pretty much defensive lapses and getting those key long boards. Look at the Dallas game, they were told not to switch on the last play, but Mo Pete switched and it costed them the game. But I'm not blaming the loss on Mo Pete, but on the Smitch, you just can't set up your team like that on such an important jump ball [TJ Ford Vs Dirk? gimme a break], I think that's where the game was lost.
Another thing with them is live by the 3, die by the 3. And the lack of touches for Bosh, being the franchise player he should be putting up at least 18+ shots a game, although he needs to make a better job of finding the open man when doubled/tripled teamed. But worst case scenario he drives to the hoop and its a trip to the free throw line!
It's going to be tough, but I think that we can take the division over the Knicks (my pick as toughest competitor in the division) & Nets. | |
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Posted: 1/16/2007 7:15:02 AM | Big fan here since the big purple dino era!
Lets give props where props are due, the man who turned the team around Brian Colangelo. This was the best move the ownership could have made. Bringing in a top nba executive allows for a greater trickle down effect to the rest of the organization. The talent on the court is due to the brains in the office.
We have a promising team and a more exciting product even more so than the mcGrady, Carter, AD , Alvin and Oak days. We have great speed and play skills with the point guards, promising prospects, no 1 pick who is producing, bosh who is bringing it, the GARBAGE MAN garbo! i love that blue collar look! a great bench, assets and luxury room to deal allowing for BC to make some more moves.
I do agree with the rest of the forum that Sam is not the coach to bring them to the same level, BUT he is the right coach for them right now.. he is getting the most out of these players and teaching them the mental toughness needed to be a big league team. BC I am sure is aware of this and I know he wont stick with him for long term, look for a big name coach to come in to take us deep into the playoffs, right now its tinkering time with the roster and managment for BC, and Im sure we all can agree we are alot better than we thought we would be. at least i did.
and yes they are far from perfect and all are good points about where they need to improve but at least there is excitement in the air, not like the last 3 years, oh man was that ever painful...
leafs need to learn a thing about how to build, their little cousin is a great example
go raps! | |
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Posted: 1/17/2007 10:47:02 PM | Awesome...2 more wins and the Raptors will be even for wins and loses. When was the last time that happened this far into the season??
Go Raptors!!!! | |
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Posted: 1/17/2007 10:56:22 PM | | I always hated them but I'm starting to cheer for them although win or lose I wouldn't really care. I think the reason why I'm starting to a bit of attention to them is because of Bosh. Also heard Mopete might be on his way out. I think he is unhappy because from what I hear the Raptors are not using him as much as before. They were saying they should trade Mopete pretty soon just because he's been nothing but class as a Raptor. Do him a favour and trade him to a team that will play him alot and let him adjust to his new team. Heard this from sportsnet news last night. Who do you think the Raps could get for him? | |
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Posted: 1/17/2007 10:58:12 PM | | double post | |
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Posted: 1/17/2007 11:08:15 PM | | mo pete stays lol hes my fav raptor. great player | |
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Posted: 1/17/2007 11:23:00 PM | | hey chiefs. Now like I said I don't follow them that much so I don't know how Mopete is performing. From your words, he's a great player. Why do you think sportsnet suggested him being dealt? Just to have something to talk about? Also I want your honest opinion, in my previous post they said because of his playing time decreasing or might have been his role is being reduced. Have you notice other players starting to play a bit more then him? I don't get raptors game so I can't tell and can't really tell from highlights. Well, i'll read your post tomorrow. take care. | |
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Posted: 1/17/2007 11:41:21 PM | The raps are pretty stacked at small forward...they've got a bunch of solid if not spectacular guys to fill that role. MP3, Parker, Jones, Graham...even Humphries who brings a ton of energy. That's 5 guys when 3 would suffice, 4 would be ideal. Mo Pete is very tradeable because of his expiring contract. In the NBA you're trading contracts as much as players and BC is smart and won't be taking on anyone with a long term commitment I don't think. Thing is with the NBA's CBA...when you trade players, salaries have to match up within (I believe) 15%.
Where I see the Raps being weak is at the point...if anything happens to either Jose or Ford, then they're in trouble. I don't see either of those guys playing 35+ minutes a night for a long stretch...I could be wrong, but a servicable back up would help. Martin isn't bad in an emergency...but I don't think he's the guy to run the offence for any extended period of time. Don't get me wrong though, I love our two points...just worried what the Raps would do if one goes down.
I like our roster a lot. Andrea is blossoming and is being given enough minutes to grow without being burned out. Rasho is solid, boring but very solid. Garbo is almost invisible but he does all the little things...and then there's Bosh. All CB4 has to do now is work on squeezing the ball a bit tighter in the paint, he gets it slapped away too often. Squeeze it tighter and get those elbows out...I can't wait to see how he plays when he gets another 10-20 lbs on that frame.
Mitchell...Mitchell Mitchell Mitchell. I can't decide on him. What I see of him in interviews I really like, he was a solid player for 10+ seasons so he knows the game...the modern NBA game. I don't like his frantic yelling and gestulating when the game is going on....but maybe that's part and parcel of being a young coach who's learning.
Anyway...bottom line is this is an easy team to like right now. Coangelo (sp?) has done an incredible job putting together this roster in such a short (incredibly short) period of time. And their key pieces...Bosh, Bargnani, Ford, Calderon...maybe even Graham, they're all so young. It looks like they'll be able to keep the core together and build...I lived in Portland OR when the Blazers won it all...that would be incredible. | |
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Posted: 1/17/2007 11:52:34 PM | | It is true. Mo pete doesnt get much time. The young guys are taking over and he is basically a bench player. He is good bait for someone if they needed to pull the trigger. But i wish they wouldnt. He's a solid player and should be a starter on this team. | |
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Posted: 1/18/2007 6:04:39 AM |
Why do you think sportsnet suggested him being dealt?
Probably cause he's a free agent at the end of the year. And you know that a bunch of teams would 'buy high' in order to make their final playoff push. I mean, he's a good player, he can hit the open shot, as well as create some offense off the bounce. Plus he's defense is above average.
There was a reported discussion going on with Detroit about a Mo Pete for Dale Davis + someone else. But apparently Colangelo wanted to get Antonio McDyess.
Anyways, I think that we shouldn't give up on him, but he's going to look to get paid at the end of the season, and I'm not sure if BC is going to give him the contract that he's looking for.
Gotta love the buzz that there's around Toronto about this team! Thanks BC! | |
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Posted: 1/18/2007 7:53:52 AM | | About the rumors about Mo Pete...he had a few bad games and then the trade rumors start. Usually happens to those players who have quite a few back to back bad games. Mo Pete's name came up quite a bit over the last couple of seasons, but this year it could happen. NOw if they do trade Mo Pete, who do you get for him? Another point guard? I don't think so, you let go of a good player in Charlie to get Ford. They have alot of players who could play either small forward and shooting guard. I think they should trade Mo Pete and a bench warmer for a centre since they don't play Nesterovic many minutes. I think they should be good to Mo because he has been a great player for the team, both on and off the court. | |
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Posted: 1/18/2007 1:00:17 PM | | What the heck,have you ever listened to the fan,they talk about the raps all the time | |
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Posted: 1/18/2007 2:08:19 PM | if nothing else, the raps are an exciting young team to watch thats playoff bound. Watching the Dallas game, the philly game and just yesterday the kings game, even if we lose, we're entertaining.
Go raps! | |
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Posted: 1/26/2007 10:44:56 PM | | back to .500 there is no reason for toronto to not be excited. this team is only a couple wins away from top spot in the east! who would of thunk it...maybe only Colangello | |
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Posted: 1/26/2007 10:48:51 PM | dAMN, I just started a thread (deleted) about the FIVEHUNDRED RAPS wOOO
they officailly dfont suck any MORE!
Mo pete doesnt get much time. The young guys are taking over and he is basically a bench player.
tonite morris pplayed the clutch minutes in the 4th hitting down a 3 to keep the raps from collapsing, he moight be getting less minutes but he gets the important ones, plus golden gram is suck it up lately | |
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