| Loving your job/career
Posted: 1/22/2007 5:44:03 AM | I've noticed in a number of profiles that people seem to think that finding a partner that loves their job/career is a very important thing. I've seen statistics that indicated only a very small proportion of people in North America actually have any kind of happiness or satisfaction in their work these days.
Why is "loving" your job/career so important to some people?? What about people that only see their jobs as a source of income so they can enjoy thier lives away from work?? Are such people less desirable? Not a lot of people have fascinating long-term jobs/careers any longer...the times they are a-changin'. Opinions? | |
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| Loving your job/career
Posted: 1/22/2007 6:35:45 AM | | Don't think loving a persons job makes them more desirable, in fact sticking to it when they really would be doing something else is commendable. A job is a job, and someone has to do it regardless of what it is. Enjoying your job just makes it easier to go in day after day. I'm one of the lucky ones, I have a job that I love, been there since 1983, but there are days when I have to drag myself in because I'd just rather be anywhere but there... | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 6:42:33 AM | After just coming out of a job I HATED,,,going into a job I LOVE, I can see a total turn around in myself. Im a much more positive person now then I was a year ago. I dreaded going into the old job, I was miserable and crabby. Now I love the job I got. I look forward to going in everyday. Work isnt work to me, its fun time. I know it reflects in my personal relationships as well. Im a lot more easier to get along with. So saying that about myself,I can see why thats important in a partner to some people. Just makes things a little more easier to handle, if your happy.
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Posted: 1/22/2007 6:47:17 AM | You don't have to love your job/career - but you can't hate it either. A source of income is critical. A source of misery is to be avoided because it spills over into all other aspects of your life.
For me? I'd prefer someone who enjoys what they do, is challenged in a way that gratifies them and (usually) leaves them feeling satisfied with their work day. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 7:17:03 AM | | So if your job is just a job... and you neither love it nor hate it... potential partners will look down on you?? You are less of a person because you weren't fortunate enough to find something you "love"?? Makes no sense at all to me. I see being defined by your job as being a bad thing.... maybe I've had too much bad luck with workoholics. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 7:30:20 AM |
So if your job is just a job... and you neither love it nor hate it... potential partners will look down on you?
If you're okay with your job and it's role in your life, then someone who looks down on you for your viewpoint really doesn't have much potential as a partner. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 7:48:32 AM | If you like what you do that is for sure a turn on, if you complain about your job and no nothing about it, that is a BIG turn off.
I worked hard to get where I am and love it. I would believe that it's not the fact that I love my job but the fact that I have ambition, am hardworking, take pride in what I do in this world ect., that is the turn on. That is how I see it for the guys out there anyway. | |
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| Loving your job/career
Posted: 1/22/2007 7:58:42 AM | i agree, i do my job cause it pays well and pays the bills, food, rent, clothing for my son and i and now our puppy. i've been at my job going on 10 yrs sept 16th of this year and it has it's moments. most times i just wanna retire cause let's face it work sucks. i will admit i'm a working woman and it keeps me sane. i personally could never be a stay at home mom cause istaying home all day would drive me nuts. just cause ppl hate their jobs don't mean they're not hardworking. i have no "away from work life" my son is all the life i've ever known and i never walk away from it. work is my escape from my probs and stresses of a single mom. when i go to work, my personal life stays at home. when i leave work , my work i leave at the door. i just go and do my job and leave and go home to my world... my son and puppy  | |
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| Loving your job/career
Posted: 1/22/2007 9:45:13 AM | I have been with the company for 18 years and I love my job. The responsibility has changed over the years and it just gets better and better.....I like the fact that the travel has settled down somewhat.
I think someone who is happy in their job, happy in their home...is happy in their heart.JMHO....
I do hate it when they send me to Winnipeg though in January | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 11:47:36 AM |
I think someone who is happy in their job, happy in their home...is happy in their heart.
i happen to agree with you.
and while i'm happy at home and with my life outside work, my job bores me to tears.
i've done the exact same thing for the past 4 years and i'm tired of it. maybe it's because the London Tax Office is so much smaller than the Ottawa Tax Office - there, i had 50 auditors to look after and the managers gave me more and more and more to do because they trusted me. i was a valued member of the team.
here, there are 14 auditors, and the office culture is such that the admins are NOT part of the team, we're simply adjuncts. right now, they've given me the work that another admin (who's contracted expired) was doing and it still doesn't fill my days.
the problem with working for the government is that i'm overpaid for what i do. even with 20+ years of working experience, i still wouldn't be able to make the kind of money i do with them in this town. the only place i could get the $40K plus salary is if i move back to Toronto - and then i'd be paying every penny i make in rent!
arrrggghhhhh, it's a classic Catch-22!!!
my department is also undergoing a major transition - operations are being transferred to the Canada Revenue Agency over the next 2 years - and admin staff will NOT be offered federal government positions at all. because i was a contractor for my first 3 years with MoF, i have little seniority when it comes to applying for a transfer - or "bumping" another employee out of a job, should it come to that (details are still being worked out). at the moment, there is a limited transfer policy in place where we can apply for transfers to another department as positions become available. but the other Corp Tax admin in my office has way more seniority than i do and we're only allowed to apply for "open" jobs. right now, there are none in southwestern Ontario. i can specify a transfer only to certain offices, or take the first available one and find myself in Sudbury or something. or wait and find myself out of work.
none of that goes toward helping me enjoy going in to work every day.... i'm actually relieved when i wake up sick like this morning...
i try not to bring work home with me, but the current situation weighs on my mind. The Boy is supportive, but both of us would like to see me more "settled" when it comes to my career.
long-winded answer to your question, jeep, but i think having a career/job you "love" can make a difference to your relationship. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 11:55:00 AM | I don't care if you like your job or not .. just don't whine about it to me ..because then it becomes MY job ..and I hate working .  Here for a good time ..not a long time . | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 11:55:55 AM | I hate my job. It sucks, the management has their heads up their asses most of the time, they play favorites, the pay is a joke, the hours suck... but hey, it's paying the bills till I find something better.
Sure, I'll **** and complain about my job... but I don't let that make me negative in the rest of my life. Work and play are kept seperate. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 12:01:23 PM | I devoted 20 years of hard work and dedication to my first career...and got kicked in the teeth for being diagnosed with an illness "they" didn't like. I'll never make the mistake again of depending on a career/job for any kind of happiness. A job is just a job. Do it, and go home. Happiness is found elsewhere.
VVVV - You certainly don't have to agree with me, but after being discriminated against by a Ministry I devoted two decades to...I'm highly skeptical about the importance of how much you enjoy your career/job. I'm happy to hear that some people find careers/second careers/jobs that they "love".... It just doesn't always happen that way. Does the fact that I haven't found anything new that I really like yet make me somehow less worthy of having a partner? I don't believe it does...but it seems that some certainly believe that. Just my opinion, of course.
Why would anyone put themselves somewhere where they cannot feel good about themselves and their life?!?!?
Life is not a movie, and you have to play the cards you are dealt. You can only choose from what you actually have, not from what you want to have. I actually feel kind of sad for some people that depend on their jobs to feel good about themselves. That just tells me other more important parts of their lives are lacking. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 12:06:56 PM | ^^^^^^ I really can't agree with that statement. A job isn't a job and if it is you have to find one that you like...cripe..we spend 8-12 hours at work a day...if there isn't anything you like about it or being there it can wear on you.....I spent 19 years in the military...most loving my job...but the times I hated it...were the hardest both at work and at home. I am retired now and run my own business....I love it!! I chose something I liked and formed a business around it!! So now my job really isn't one....I get paid for something I like doing!!!......but running a brothel isn't for everyone.........just kidding....I really don't do that!!!!  | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 12:12:33 PM | *
You should be secure in yourself and in your profession.
*From my own profile!
Why do I state this! Well it is my belief that if you are not secure with either, then you are truly not happy with who you are - that life has a lot of loose ends for you - that you may not have direction and the strength to go for exactly what you want!!! Your job is a major part of your life and you should NOT be anywhere, where you do not find happiness - life is way too short for that!!!
Look at the people who go from high paid - high status jobs - to work at something less socially praised just so they can find happiness. I am reminded of a movie I saw where a woman went from a Lawyer to a dog walker and found true happiness - with out stress!!! Why would anyone put themselves somewhere where they cannot feel good about themselves and their life?!?!? | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 2:57:23 PM |
Why would anyone put themselves somewhere where they cannot feel good about themselves and their life?!?!?
Because the bills have to be paid somehow.
We can't all just ask for our dream job and have it handed to us. Some of us either aren't qualified, have physical/mental restrictions, or simply don't have the $$$ to get the uber degrees needed for the jobs we'd like to do. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 4:20:40 PM | Sometimes is not the JOB, but the environment!!!!
BUT hey,,,when you spend at least 8 hours a day, somewhere I would hope to GOD you can actually say something when you get home,,besides,,,ahh is another day!
Even vent,,,if you hate your job,,or the environment,,but actually realize that you have the support to gain something you may desire in the future.
I found it once very difficult to go to my job everyday I hated, they did me a favour and got rid of me
I thank GOD everyday that this company did this,,as now I may find it tough BUT I was not happy, and was very afraid of being to comfy there for the rest of my life, as we find ourselves sometimes.
IF you are not happy do something about it, or at least TRY to!!! The least you can do is TRY!! | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 5:59:08 PM | I think it matters to some degree. As someone who has taken a lot or risks with career decisions and is currently in the beginning stages of transitioning out of one career into another, i think a partner who understands the love of a job or profession would understand my needs better, as well as understand why loving my job is more rewarding than a bigger salary. working environment is a key element of being happy, as I've discovered over the years--I gave up rising on the corporate ladder because i found it was killing my soul. and someone who hates their job, is bitter about it and yet isn't trying to change it because of the perception that they have to stay with it becuase of money probably wouldn't understand me.
yes, money is a reality of life and if i had to take a job that i hated to pay the bills, i would (heck, there is even the odd day or two when i hate my job, but it passes after i get over it and then i think of all the great things about my current job). and I respect that in a person too, for taking financial accountability. but i'd prefer not to date someone who feels trapped by it just because of money issues. really, you don't need that much money to live. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 6:02:58 PM | Well, from all the judgement calls on here, I'd say it sounds like I'll never date again.
Being as I've been in this position for a few years now, and have had a relationship or two, I know you're wrong. Believe what you want to. | |
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| Loving your job/career
Posted: 1/22/2007 6:10:01 PM | As far as i'm concerned i'd rather listen to someone tell delightful stories about where they work instead of someone who constantly b*tches and whines.
Of course majority of the people work for a source of income... but if they enjoy their job/career than it's definitely a bonus for them and the person they are with.
It's like that saying "A happy worker is a hard worker" Someone who enjoys their line of work will enjoy going, will work hard and will have a more pleasant personality because they will more than likely have less to complain about.
NO I am NOT saying that if you don't enjoy your job than you arn't a pleasant person... but like I stated above it is more enjoyable to be around someone who has POSITIVE things to say over someone who has nothing but NEGATIVE things to say.
Enjoying what you do and making money while doing it.... hmmmm.... I really don't see anything wrong with that. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 6:11:07 PM | Because the bills have to be paid somehow.
The bills can get paid in a job you like, as easily as in a job you hate - if it's not your dream job fine - but at least get yourself somewhere that you are not feeling disdain or anger on a daily basis. Only you, can make you happy. If you are not, move on!! It may not be a dream job, but it can be an enjoyable job!!!
Life is not a movie, and you have to play the cards you are dealt. You can only choose from what you actually have, not from what you want to have.
Who says?!?!!? Change what you don't want - make life exactly what you want - you DO have the power to do that!!!!! There is nobody holding you to your life - you are the master of the moments you live!!! NEVER settle!!!
You DO NOT always have the power to force life to be what you want.
If I felt I did not have complete control over my life I would certainly find a way to make sure that I did. There are no fantasies in life that we can't accomplish if you really want them to come to fruition!! Never defeat yourself, or allow life to defeat you because you feel you have no choices!!! | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 6:19:45 PM | Leeanne.....sometimes life doesn't allow one the pleasure of dictating where they want to work. I work my job, something that I have done for almost 20 years. Now, I love the job that I do, it is actually a career in the generel spoken sense. However, I almost, for the most part hate some of the guys I work with. that being said, I love my job/career, hate the circumstances, but it pays the bills well enough...
I make me happy in many other ways. It is not the work, job or career that defines me, but how I handle it. Some days better than others.
i love what I do, but hate where I work....if that makes sense?
How does one take the pay cut to go back to school to afford the better way? | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 6:30:43 PM | What is it with people?? Everything in life isn't simply a collection of opposites. Simply because you don't "love" your job does NOT mean you have to hate it. If you don't come home and talk about what a great day you had, who says you're going to go home and **** and moan?? I rarely talk about my work outside of work. I have better things to do. Sometimes you can actually go, just do the job and then leave, without it affecting your mood or your outlook or your personality. As long as someone pays me, I'm quite content to take the money so I can do what I want.
Who says?!?!!? Change what you don't want - make life exactly what you want - you DO have the power to do that!!!!! There is nobody holding you to your life - you are the master of the moments you live!!! NEVER settle!!!
Who says? I do. That's a lovely fantasy Leeanne, but the real world doesn't always work like that. You DO NOT always have the power to force life to be what you want. Forcing anything usually doesn't make things that last. I cannot put a virtual or literal gun against the head of an employer that has a job I want, and say GIMME. It doesn't work like that. Sometimes, in the working world, there are times that you do have to settle for the money. Bills have to be paid. You can't wait forever for the right thing to come along unless you're in a position that you don't need the money. Most people I know need the money. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 6:30:50 PM | I'm not sure I need to find someone who loves their job. It's rare to find many people that do. Up until my current position,I've always hated my jobs. Loved the people I worked with, which made it easier to cope. For me, they were to pay the bills. When I lost my last job at a leading Financial/Insurance institution, I was relieved yet scared. The pay was horrible, the stress was unbelieveable and the Management was THE WORST. It's the best thing that's ever happened to me. Slowly but surely I've found my niche in the work force. I love my position but I have one complaint. The Financial advisor I work for is a very difficult person to deal with. I was warned when I started the job that she would be. THAT is why they hired me. They figured with my personality I could handle her. Most days I can...today wasn't one of them..lol. I have the choice to leave her and ask the company to find me someone else to work with. I am not a quitter and I think I can go far working for her, so I'm sticking it out. You just have to realise that she's good at her job BECAUSE of her demanding personality.
@ Adam....get out of the Banking industry! Been there done it...they pay the WORST in the Financial Industry. I worked in Banking when I hit the workforce again after my ex left. I stuck it out for a couple years until they closed our office. I went back to my old company I worked for years previously, only to find out the company that took them over was nothing like the original company. They could care less about their employees and pay crap (but better than the bank..lol) I will NEVER work for a bank OR a Head Office of a Financial/Insurance company again. You're just a number and over worked for little pay. I'm being paid MUCH better working on the front lines of Finance rather than in the back ground. I can definitely feel proud of what I do...it's not just a job...it's a career. | |
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Posted: 1/22/2007 6:39:42 PM | This whole thread wouldn't exist if higher education were free.
The reason people are bored is because they are unchallenged. If you don't get break by being born into a middle-upper or better financial class, you likely didn't go to post-secondary school. You are far more likely to have a mundane job that you don't like. It's not because you aren't smart. It's because you don't have the money to get more education.
If higher education were free, it would pay for itself because we would be world leaders in everything. This is exactly what the Chinese are doing. They hand pick people to learn and become experts on everything. It's not right because it's communist, but to offer all adults the opportunity to educate themselves for free on any subject would make Canadians a lot more money and a lot more happiness in your job.
Rant off
I'm running for the Greg party in the next election. | |
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