| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/23/2007 11:50:46 PM | In the Broken Hearts forum, there's a thread asking people what the worst thing was that anyone had ever said to them. There were women of non-white ethnicities telling their experiences about white males they dated who told them that they would never have children with them because the kids would be "half-breeds."
I had a girlfriend (she was half filipina, half white) on another forum who got pregnant by a white man. When she told him about the pregnancy, he gave her some money and told her to get an abortion. He said, "I don't want any slanty-eyed kids running around with my name." I had a similar experience. During college, my ex (at that time my boyfriend of two years) got involved with a bad crowd and he became something of a white supremacist. After I became pregnant (and we had broken up), I asked him if he cared that the baby wasn't full white. He said, "I don't know." My son was born and for the first few months, my ex scrutinized his face for signs of "whiteness." He criticized all his asian features and claimed to anyone who would listen that our son looked "practically all white." He said that if our son didn't act like a "good American," he wouldn't love him as much as he loved his future full white kids. This was last year, and my ex has since wisened up (after a lot of yelling from me and his parents, whom I'd tattled on his *ss to). He has now accepted our son's biraciality, thinks he's the cutest kid on two legs, shows his pictures off to all his buddies in the USMC... happy happy joy joy. But it doesn't change the fact that race WAS an issue for him in the beginning, affecting the way he felt about his own child. Hopefully our son will never know that this happened... but I sure as hell can't forget about it.
I guess this question is directed mainly at white males. Keep in mind that I want HONEST answers. I don't want you sugar-coating it for me, you don't know me anyway, so you don't need to worry. I want to know if the thought of having a biracial child is as repulsive to you as it was for these white males I just described? I've heard a lot of you say that you're willing to date all races, but would you be just as willing to have children with minority races? I know I might be being unfair or harsh by judging all white men by the actions of these less-than exemplary ones I just described. But I ask this question because these men had a REASON to feel the way they did about their children's race. Society has set caucasians up on a majority pedestal. If it's arguable that minorities are at a disadvantage in society, then it's also arguable that white males might not want their children to be disadvantaged by making them half a minority. It makes a sad sort of sense. This being the case, I wanted to know how you men honestly feel about this. Would you not want to have babies with me, because the babies would be "half-breeds"? | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 12:07:27 AM | | They'll be with you but not have kids? Sounds like they are racists with double standards. Maybe growing up with double discrimination (beat up for being white and treated like crap by boss along with my black coworker freinds) makes it hard for me to understand the disadvantaged thing. Not being racist myself of course that "half-breed" thing wouldn't even pop into my head. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 12:14:49 AM | I dated all kinds of races. My aunt is half white and half black. I have friends that are mixed. I grew up with different races and never thought of them other then family and friends.
One woman I dated was from the Carribean. She had beautiful coffee color skin. We used to talk about what our children would look like. Her beauiful color of skin and my blue eyes, or vice versa.
I have a son with a Portuguese woman. She has darker features then most in her family. My son looks like me but with her color of eyes. I love him no matter what.
If some guy didn't want to have a child with a woman of different race, then why the hell did he go between her legs. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 1:59:24 AM | I would never have an issue with this. My kids are my life. I would never let the fact that IF they were birecial EVER be reason to not love them.
My god, what has this world come to where any father would disown a child for any reason.
those people need a beat down! | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 4:11:13 AM | OP said: During college, my ex (at that time my boyfriend of two years) got involved with a bad crowd and he became something of a white supremacist.
My first thought was why you would have continued to be involved with him at that point.
If someone doesn't want a 'half - breed' child, then they shouldn't be sexually involved with anyone that could produce a biracial child. Any woman who is involved with a man with that belief is setting herself up for conflict and disappointment.
If I had a child with a woman who was other than caucasian the biraciality of the child wouldn't matter to me. It's my child. If I'm not willing to have children with that woman, for whatever reason, I shouldn't be sexually involved with her.
In my mind this is the crux of the issue: Very few of us are "pure". We've all been so intermixed throughout the centuries it's very hard for many to claim a pure blood line. I'm about 1/4 Cherokee Indian. I guess at some point down the family tree someone 'inter-bred' with a non-caucasian. I'm a mutt. Most Americans are. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 6:37:31 AM | WOW... let's have a moment of silence for Texas... cause well there are assh@les in Canada but really playing the race card is stupid, horrible and a bad throw back to the 1950's mentality
OUCH!
this really makes me mad!
Race does not come into my thought process when I date and would not become a factor if I wanted to have a kid with them.
Really if I have a kid with the women I am with I am hoping for healthy and that is it!
Well if I am with a white girl (and I am white as well) and the kid comes out with an afro and looks of African decent... well I may have some questions about that...  anything else... it would not matter to me or my family... actually most of my friends with mixed kids... the kids are really, really cute... and anyone who would deny that... well Karma is a **** and you will get yours!!!! | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 6:45:57 AM | I have 7 children. Thier mother is 1/4 Cherokee.You can see it in thier cheeks. She is also English. I am Scotch/Irish/Danish/German /Scandinavian. Personally I like petite women. I find Filipeno women hot. Spanish, Mexican and just brunettes in general. I moved to Alabama 2 years ago, from Utah. I have seen many mixed children here. They in my opinion are more beautiful. A little cream in the coffee or tea so to speak.
I think the cultural and religious parts of said cultures present more of a challenge than the looks of children. Do the cultures they represent accept them? At least in the U.S.A. We have mostly melted all cultures over the years.
I will be glad for the day when we all melt together and get over the race issue. If a woman loves me enough to live with me and bear my children. I don't care what they look like. I will love and care for them untill the day I die. As I am currently doing...For the best looking kids on this earth.
My 21 yr old son only dates Asians. I asked him your question. His answer" Yeah thats the point! I want my kids to look like that". He is as blond haired blue eyed as they get. I look forward to holding my half breed grandchildren. I will be a great Grampa! | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 7:45:45 AM | well id say if youre dating a white supremicist ..this is probally not a good person to judge all white males by. As well the question occurs to me: what the hell are you doing dating a man (white or otherwise) that considers you the bearer of a "half breed"?..not to be insulting but man thats really says something about you i think...
That said if i am having sex with you...well im probally loving you...so ...any child we concieve would be born of that...and that would make the child 100% beautiful.
There is no such thing as a half breed...the fact that he would say that says alot more about how he feels about you and not his child....
But I ask this question because these men had a REASON to feel the way they did about their children's race. Society has set caucasians up on a majority pedestal. If it's arguable that minorities are at a disadvantage in society, then it's also arguable that white males might not want their children to be disadvantaged by making them half a minority
sorry but that logic sounds like its straight outta Himmlers "Guide to being a White Supremacist".
I want my child to be raised in a house of love...and that more than anything will empower them to face all the challenges that "society" will throw at him/her reguardless of thier color. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 9:02:48 AM | Humans are humans... Prejudice is prejudice... Some humans are prejudice...
No, there should be no issues, but, it's harder for some people to see than others. Anyone who would carry such a view would have to have been brought up in an environment that was void of enlightenment.
I remember hearing things my father would say that I would just never say myself. He wasn't a bad man, just a product of the environment and times he grew up in. We, as a species, seem to be moving toward more accepting behavior; however, it seems, their will always be stereotypes and those whom perpetuate them.
Just sayin'...
and on a lighter note?
GO HABS GO !!! | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 9:14:54 AM | Yeah, I don't understand why anyone who would marry a non white person would have an issue with the kids not being white.
If I was a non white woman, I think I'd find that very insulting. It's like saying you're good enough to screw, but not good enough to have my kids...
PS, I look all white, but I'm 1/16 american indian. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 9:17:40 AM | | My BS radar is going off on this one. I believe that OP is lying. The comments she is referencing just sound made-up. Maybe she wants to be the next Spike Lee? | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 9:34:16 AM | In the Broken Hearts forum, there's a thread asking people what the worst thing was that anyone had ever said to them. There were women of non-white ethnicities telling their experiences about white males they dated who told them that they would never have children with them because the kids would be "half-breeds."
Not being hung up about racial stuff...I don't "get it" at all with guys acting like this.
If you love your partner and want to make a life and home together, that should be the end of the discussion.
That said, children need to be wanted and loved and cherished by their parents. If the guy is that way....why on earth would you even consider going any further?
Tell him goodbye and stick to it! | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 10:19:48 AM | Some of the most beautiful people I've ever seen are bi-racial.
I think if you judge someone based on their race you've got a serious insecurity problem. Everyone is equal in God's eyes and that's all that matters.
We are His children, how can we be "better" than one another? | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 10:29:21 AM | | I have no hangups about mixed race children at all. Although I don't plan on ever having anymore children, if it were to happen, or if my own son was mixed race, I would love them all the same. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 10:50:43 AM | Racism really sucks. I have to disagree with you on one thing though. These morons have no reason to be racist. There simply is no reason for hate. I have many friends that aren't white and thus far in life they haven't hit any race barriers that I know of. But it's very different up here in Canada, as aposed to the American south.
The only problem I have with being a rich white guy is that I get stuck with the same stereo type that those other white guys are creating. I do have money and I am white, but that does not define who I really am. My last gf was filipino and she said I am different from all the other white guys.
I don't really know a whole lot about racism, because I never grew up arround it. I grew up in the tourist industry, and in that business, there is absolutely no room for racism if you want to be successful. Because of that I have met a lot of interesting people from all walks of life.
I think racism should be considered a mental illness. I don't understand how we can teach someone that the earth revolves arround the sun, but we can't teach them that racial suppremacy is evil. The Earth goes arround the Sun and racial suppremacy is wrong.
Would you not want to have babies with me, because the babies would be "half-breeds"?
If it helps console you, I would gladly take you up on that offer.
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 10:55:39 AM | I'm a white male from Texas so I thought I'd better post to refute the generalizations of the Canadian earlier. (no hard feelingsjavascript:smilie('')
javascript:smilie('') ). If anyone I get intimate with would happen to become pregnant race would not be a factor... at all. My basic philosophy on dating and relationships is that is basically like making a major purchase. You don't get it for the packaging but whats inside. If you are raciest, first get over it, and second don't date anyone that does not live up to you standards to begin with. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 10:59:37 AM | With the broader genetic spectrum involved, a "half-breed" is more likely to be superior to someone who is racially "pure". Keep in mind though, guys who do have a problem with half-breeds probably won't be posting, since they know it makes them look bad.
On a side note though 69_dude makes a good point. If I was with a white woman and we had a bi-racial kid, there'd be a problem (since I'm also white). | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 11:35:31 AM | As others have said: the only way I'd be upset if she "gave" me biracial children is if both of us were white.
That would be a bad situation, I'd think.
Race barely even registers for me, and if I were having a child with someone who's not white it's absolutely ridiculous to think that I would worry about our child having "non-white" features. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 11:55:59 AM |
My first thought was why you would have continued to be involved with him at that point.
If the guy is that way....why on earth would you even consider going any further? Tell him goodbye and stick to it!
As well the question occurs to me: what the hell are you doing dating a man (white or otherwise) that considers you the bearer of a "half breed"?..not to be insulting but man thats really says something about you i think...
I don't have a pretty answer for that question. We began dating at 16, and I was 19 when I became pregnant. The racism was not a part of the picture until the last few months that we were together. He was young and impressionable and let his new friends influence his thinking. I was young and very attached and hoping that his racism was a stage. As for "what it says about me" in the eyes of other people, I don't much care. I hoped that someone I loved about would come back from the wrong turn he'd taken... I've lost no respect for myself on account of that.
My BS radar is going off on this one. I believe that OP is lying. The comments she is referencing just sound made-up. Maybe she wants to be the next Spike Lee?
Yep. Except I'd choose a name that upholds my asian agenda. Something that smacks of Saigon whores hiding guns in their g-strings.
Keep in mind though, guys who do have a problem with half-breeds probably won't be posting, since they know it makes them look bad.
Hmm... yes, I thought of that after the fact. Though the internet does lend some anonymity, this site is still a dating site. And I don't suppose racism paints anyone in the best light. Still it's interesting to hear these opinions. Thanks to all you guys who gave your 2 cents. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 12:01:01 PM | If it is my child, then regardless of color or "defects" (like mental or physical abnormalities)... it would be the most beautiful thing in the world to me.
And I would love my child with all my heart.
Children are a blessing, and anyone stupid enough to make an issue of race with their own children... in my opinion, those people don't deserve to breed in the first place.
OP, don't EVER put up with someone who won't love you AND your children unconditionally.
If they put up any sort of resistance to the idea of children with you because of race... they don't deserve to be with you. Simple as that. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 12:10:15 PM | I really never liked the phrase biracial - it almost makes it seem like the children are different than human. My child would be my child - the product of my genes, and the mother's. I honestly don't look like either of my parents, and yet I'm their child.
It's all good.
Unless of course, not everybody in the equation is human - no - even then, if my child had insectoid eyes, that could be cool - they'd still be my child....
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 1:50:17 PM | That sounds completely retarded. Why would you enter such a relationship (that will end up bearing children) with a woman of another race and then say that you don't want bi-racial children?
Are those men complete idiots? Do bigots think if they date an Oriental/black/hispanic/south asian woman that their children would come out completely white?
Society has set caucasians up on a majority pedestal. If it's arguable that minorities are at a disadvantage in society, then it's also arguable that white males might not want their children to be disadvantaged by making them half a minority.
Not only white people, but Asian people (in my case at least). I can't tell you how many time I've been rejected by Oriental women because they only exclusively date "white men". | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 2:04:49 PM |
Society has set caucasians up on a majority pedestal. If it's arguable that minorities are at a disadvantage in society, then it's also arguable that white males might not want their children to be disadvantaged by making them half a minority.
Okay, first off... I dunno about anywhere else, but the last census figures I looked at showed that America was still about 70% white. So yea, we're in the majority and our nation's culture is going to reflect that. Don't like it, have more kids and tip the numbers. It doesn't make us evil overlords or anything. I'm the minority in China. Same thing.
Secondly... when I was still married, (my wife was from northern China), I was quite looking forward to having mixed children. It was a huge disappointment when we got a divorce. Reason bein', I thought my wife was beautiful, and I knew I was a good-lookin' guy, so I figured our kids would have the best of both worlds and be downright gorgeous. Plus, I knew in my heart she'd be an excellent mother.
Here's the deal; if the guy is with you for you, then he'll accept the kids. If the guy is with you because it's convenient sex, then I think he'd be adverse to having kids at all, regardless of whether or not they're mixed.
On the other hand, mixed kids do tend to face prejudice and a lack of cultural identity... especially if one of their parents is still firmly entrenched in their "own" culture. I can see how some people would not want to have such an added burden on top of all the others that come inherent to raising a child.
You've already acknowledged that the guy in question is a racist. The blunt answer is that to him, sex is a tool (no pun intended) of power and domination. He's happy to pork you because he's the man, and since he's in charge, he deserves pu$$y (in HIS point of view). Thus, white man has power over the "mud people". The fact that such an act would saddle him with a "halfbreed" is an ugly, inconvenient truth.
People with their heads screwed on straight do not think like this. I'm surprised the question even needs to be asked. | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 5:42:37 PM | One more thing I gotta mention...
Asian-American women get bent out of shape if white guys assume that because they're Asian, they have certain desirable qualities. I seem to recall from the "Why white guys like Asian women" thread that if we say "Asian women treat their men better", "are slimmer", etc - we get crucified for generalizing.
So how is this any different? Why is it that you meet one fool who thinks the Master Race was a valid concept and now you have to wonder if all white men are like this, or wouldn't want a biracial child (in essence, being racist)?
"All" white men no more have an aversion to people of other races, or having mixed kids, no more or less than "all" Asian women are geisha girls, or "all" black men want to sell out by dating white girls, or any other stereotypical nonsense. If the very idea of "us" stereotyping other races is ridiculous, I don't understand why this, which is itself a stereotype, not just as ridiculous.
Would you not want to have babies with me, because the babies would be "half-breeds"?
On the contrary. Let's get with the baby-making. Sunday good for you? | |
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| If she gave you biracial children?
Posted: 1/24/2007 10:05:48 PM | I think a better question might be for the women.
If you got pregnant and the 'man' proceeded to spout BS about "half-breeds" and other related stupidity why would you allow him any influence over your child aside from a monthly cheque? ... At least until he grows up.(the father not the kid)
If it's arguable that minorities are at a disadvantage in society, then it's also arguable that white males might not want their children to be disadvantaged by making them half a minority.
That is debatable, but I believe it is proven that environment does have an affect on a growing child. Which would mean that the only real disadvantage this kid might have would come from the white father not from any association with a minority. | |
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