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Posted: 1/26/2007 6:17:22 AM | | i am trying to upload my music on the computer...when i do...it says too large........what do i do to resize this and share it??? i am trying to use a thing called ads instant music to play my songs through the amp into my computer.......wow this is really techy | |
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Posted: 1/26/2007 6:30:27 AM | With music, the size depends on the quality, I dont do digital editing myself but to make it smaller your gonna have to reduce the quality of it, probably by turning it into a lesser quality file.
Anyone any suggestions which program to use? | |
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Posted: 1/26/2007 10:35:21 AM | msg 2 "With music, the size depends on the quality,"
Hmm? I thought it depended on the file type mostly. eg. .wav files are huge, but, can be converted to tiny .mp3 files and back again, without quality loss (something like that, anyway).
Sort of like what happens when you 'zip' .CLP files -- they're 40 to 50 times smaller in the .zip folder (= handy for emailing), but when unzipped, they're back to their original 2-4 MB size. | |
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Posted: 1/26/2007 11:07:08 AM | lol for some reason i missed the point that they are wanting to make them smaller to share.
However if you reduce the size by changing the format you loose quality. mp3 is a widely known as cd quality, wav is nowhere near the same quality therefore is smaller in size.
I was thinking they meant smaller in size of the actual file, if your just wanting to send the file to someone else you could try zipping it up but last time i remember mp3's don't compress very well and there will be very little difference in the size.
If there's not enough space and you dont want to loose quality of the file, buy a larger hard drive or write them to cd and give them that. | |
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Posted: 1/26/2007 11:12:29 AM | Zipping is a loss-less compression algorithm, so once you compress it and decompress it, it's the same as the original.
Most common music compression algorithms (mp3, ogg, wma, m4a) are lossy, which means they save space by (in part) discarding information. This means that once you compress it and decompress it, it'll be different from the original.
See the following Wikipedia article for more information if you're interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_compression#Lossless_vs._lossy_compression
However I believe this is getting away from the question in the OP. I've just googled 'Ads instant music' and came up with this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00067TMGA/kaufenundbe00-21/ref=nosim
Can you, heaven68, have a look at the link and tell us if this is what you're using? | |
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Posted: 1/26/2007 11:18:53 AM | " last time i remember mp3's don't compress very well "
Precisely my point (mp3's can be thought of as a compressed version of .wav files).
Not so sure about "losing" any useful information during the conversion. | |
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Posted: 1/26/2007 12:05:56 PM |
Precisely my point (mp3's can be thought of as a compressed version of .wav files).
not being funny but i dont understand that, mp3's are better quality so i couldnt think of it anything to do with a wav file. Please explain?
As for the loss of quality with compressing and uncompressing, interesting fact..... cheers for that one. | |
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Posted: 1/26/2007 5:09:58 PM | | Heaven, I am a little confused here. Are you uploading music TO your computer? Or are you uploading music FROM your computer TO the internet in order to share with others via something like mywebspace? | |
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Posted: 1/26/2007 7:33:17 PM | In answer to the point about compression of music to MP3 format,the reason it sounds pretty much the same as the original (at a reasonable bitrate of 192k+)is that much of the data that is lost in compression are sounds outside of our normal audible range.
A great piece of free software to convert audio files between all the main formats at the desired quality is Free MP3 Wma Converter:
http://www.download.com/Free-Mp3-Wma-Converter/3000-2140_4-10505512.html | |
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Posted: 1/26/2007 7:40:32 PM | | After reading his input in many threads, I nominate andyman35 as this forums' "go-to guy". | |
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Posted: 1/27/2007 6:26:10 AM | Thanks,always happy to help. | |
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Posted: 1/27/2007 7:33:44 PM | However if you reduce the size by changing the format you loose quality. mp3 is a widely known as cd quality, wav is nowhere near the same quality therefore is smaller in size.
In answer to Topcat2...as a Professional Audio Engineer I think you have got your formats mixed up here.
A .Wav file is closer to CD Quality than anything else as it is usually the most direct recording and is usually saved as a .wav file. This is usually 10mb per 1 minute of Stereo Recording. An mp3 File is the compressed version of that .wav file and is usually far smaller in file size than the original .wav file.
If you have used a good prog to convert these, the higher the bitrate the better, then you will struggle to hear the difference. Most files of 128 Kbps sound excellent and that is the most common rate. 192 Kbps is better but you have to have ears like a shitehawk to hear the difference. 256 and 512 Kbps are also available and usually found on the more expensive mp3 players. | |
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Posted: 1/28/2007 7:51:45 AM | I stand corrected then, my apologies ..... i don't mind admitting im wrong but im no digital media expert. Just thought seeing as though mp3 was used widely for transferring to cd's it was the superior quality.
Thanks for lesson :) | |
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Posted: 1/28/2007 7:55:19 AM | In answer to the point about compression of music to MP3 format,the reason it sounds pretty much the same as the original (at a reasonable bitrate of 192k+)is that much of the data that is lost in compression are sounds outside of our normal audible range.
In lossy compression formats, actual musical information is lost, not only a portion of the frequency range.
On a good quality audio system, the difference is quite noticeable.
The more the amplification, the more you will notice the harshness of compressed music.
Some people have more acute hearing than others.
You can compress your 16 Bit audio files into a "lossless" format without compromising quality, and subsequently restore them back into their original uncompressed WAV form.
FLAC, APE, SHN are such formats and you can 'Google' for these.
A .Wav file is closer to CD Quality
WAV is/was once a proprietary Microsoft format which digitally extracts RAW musical information with a WAV Header.
Audio CDs are simply musical information at 16 Bits, 44,000 Hz, running at a Bitrate of 1,407 Kbps. When you burn MP3 music to a CD, the software converts it to the "CD Music" format, and would then be considered a Music CD, although much audio information would have been lost.
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Posted: 1/28/2007 10:18:31 AM | To Topcat2
No need to apologise, I wasn't having a go at you.
The only real reason people put mp3's onto CD'S these days is because the CD's can hold more mp3 tracks on there compared to a normal audio CD where you might only get up to say 20 tracks maximum. A CD will hold far more mp3's than that and of course the big bonus is that most DVD/CD players available these days can quite happily play them back too.
Tickettoride has gone slightly more into the technobabble side of it but I was just trying to avoid that.
Just keep enjoying your music - thats what counts !!!
Regards.
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