| Western Values - Sharia Law
Posted: 2/3/2007 3:45:04 PM | There was an article in todays daily mail about muslims and how they dont wish to abide by out laws and culture, they think we would all be much better off living under Sharia law
They say that we have no western values, our youngsters go out and binge drink and fight, even the women. They say that it is wrong to drink and for our women to wear skirts, women should be covered up at all times
What i find worrying is that 13% of young muslims admitted to admireing organisations like Al Queda
Do we really want to live under a barbaric law where we stone adulterers to death, cut off the hands of thieves and behead murderers?
Maybe we should take a leaf out of their book, what are your views?
I say when in Rome do as the Romans do | |
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| Western Values - Sharia Law
Posted: 2/3/2007 3:47:01 PM | We should take a leaf out of the aussies book
If you dont like it, then leave.
simple really. | |
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| Western Values - Sharia Law
Posted: 2/3/2007 3:47:13 PM | Why should we live under the muslim values, when muslims didnt originate from here!
Practise the law in your own country or if legal and living in this country then do so, but Britains aint muslims !!
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| Western Values - Sharia Law
Posted: 2/3/2007 3:47:31 PM | I say i'm quite happy living under the laws we have now.
Or maybe add an extra law saying Women should wear less clothing (or something like that) | |
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| Western Values - Sharia Law
Posted: 2/3/2007 3:55:00 PM | They should be made to live under our laws, if not then they should go to live in a country where sharia law is acceptable
They should be made to take a citizenship test like asylum seekers have to, mind you what they say and what they do are 2 different things ......... | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 3:59:00 PM | ^^^^^^^^^^Totally agree...
If they dont like it then sod off.... Set up a country where they can do what they like and not abide by our laws, preach in the street advocating murder, commit racist crimes and not have it branded racist incase it offends,...
Oh they already have.... Its called England  | |
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| Western Values - Sharia Law
Posted: 2/3/2007 4:02:12 PM | They should be made to live under our laws, if not then they should go to live in a country where sharia law is acceptable
But they already do live under our laws, stating they would like new ones, as subjects of this country they're entitled to ask for change under our current freedoms of speech.
What they should be asking is, "why dont we move to sharia law land, that would be awesome!"
msg#9 Adolf Hitler done something similar with wondrous succes :P | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 4:03:10 PM | | our shitty goverment need to introduce some harsh draconian laws now to limit what the muslims can preach and do..its about time we stopped bowing down to them..we should ban the veil..ban any sort of preaching of hatred against the west and ban most of there laws that dont apply to our country..and we should also bring interment back..and lock up anyone that is remotely suspected of being terrorists..and if they dont like it and decide to riot..then send the army in with tear gas and live batten rounds and sort the feckers out.... | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 4:05:13 PM | | They came here for a better life right?? So why not live by our rules? I'm all for freedom and stuff like that but what really pisses me off is when we go to their countries and we have to do what they say. I remember when I was gonna go on holiday in the Maldives , it was all cover this up and dont wear those. I can live with that, its called respecting other peoples ways and traditions. It just seems to me anyone can come over here and do what the **** they like. Hate me, abuse me, stone me, I dont give a shit. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 4:24:10 PM | I wouldn't worry too much about it. I don't think that any British government will be passing laws resembling Sharia law any time soon. We have enough problems enforcing our existing laws! 
But seriously....
If Muslims make up less than 3% of the UK population and less than 40% of those surveyed (who were all between 18-24) said that they would prefer to live under Sharia Law, frankly, it's not going to happen. Also, remember that over 60% of the young Muslims surveyed must have said "no"!
The citizenship test probably wouldn't help in this case. I have no evidence, but, based on the age of those interviewed, I would imagine that most were born in the UK. This might also help to explain the relatively high number of those preferring Sharia law - it's easy for them to say that something else is better when they have no actual experience of having to abide by it.
I do agree, though, that if someone would really be happier living under Sharia law, then it might be best for all concerned if they relocate to a place that meets their expectations, if only to give it a try. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 4:35:35 PM | Hi, my first post on here so I hope I don't get slagged off too much yikes! Whilst I totally agree with what has been said, and i disagree totally with the Sharia Law in the UK I can see why so many young muslim's are beginning to sympathise with Al queda, firstly many still have family over in the Middle East.. Iraq, Afghanistan ect and must have heard some gruelling reports about life over there since the invasion(yes invasion, they never asked for us to be there) of the US and UK troops. Many now feel isolated and helpless in the UK and this in itself is a breeding ground for militants to groom newcomers. I think that until the UK pulls out of Iraq then this is going to become much worse with more and more radical groups appearing. To tell anyone that was born and bred in this country to go back to any land that is in full blown civil war is totally wrong. There will always be fighting in the Middle East, it goes back centuries but until the UK pulls out of these countries then the unrest amongst our Muslim communities will continue to rise. Just as we are now voicing our views on how our country is trying to be overturned by the small minority imagine what life must be like over there, not every country can or wants to be be run by democratic rule. That's just my view...stone me now....lol. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 4:41:40 PM | | i am glad to hear that the goverment have set up an sas unit that are on stand by for any hostage taking situations within the uk...this itself will have the muslim extremists worried..because the sas boys do not ****foot around..they do not take prisoners..there job is to kill...the sas should of been unleashed on the muslim extremists ages ago...now let them do there job.... just jackie...if you think it is wrong to ask these trouble causers to go back to there country of origan just because they were born here..what do you suggest we do with them....give them an asbo...? im afraid its because of do gooders like yourself the country is in such a mess....... | |
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| Western Values - Sharia Law
Posted: 2/3/2007 4:46:27 PM |
If Muslims make up less than 3% of the UK population and less than 40% of those surveyed (who were all between 18-24) said that they would prefer to live under Sharia Law, frankly, it's not going to happen. Also, remember that over 60% of the young Muslims surveyed must have said "no"!
not necessarily
some could have said 'don't know' | |
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| Western Values - Sharia Law
Posted: 2/3/2007 4:51:38 PM |
There was an article in todays daily mail about muslims and how they dont wish to abide by out laws and culture, they think we would all be much better off living under Sharia law
They say that we have no western values, our youngsters go out and binge drink and fight, even the women. They say that it is wrong to drink and for our women to wear skirts, women should be covered up at all times
I would really like to know which muslim/s said this and which country do they reside in?
Of course they are entitled to their opinion but it doesn't mean that it will happen and there are quite a few things many of us don't agree about their laws. I find it deeply offensive to criticise another countries laws and culture just because they may not agree with it in public. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 4:53:29 PM | not necessarily
some could have said 'don't know'
Some may have also been inaudible due to them being dressed like ninja's 
Whatever the statistics, and i always think of Twain's lies, damn lies and statistics quote when looking at percentages. The percentage is so minimal it hardly registers at all. I dont think lobbying their MP will gain much support.
msg#18
I never said we had a freedom of speech law, merely that we have freedom of speech.
And yes, we do need a constitution | |
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| Western Values - Sharia Law
Posted: 2/3/2007 4:58:20 PM |
But they already do live under our laws, stating they would like new ones, as subjects of this country they're entitled to ask for change under our current freedoms of speech.
Actually, if you read our Human Rights Lw, you will find that we have no freedom of speech.
We need a constituion setting up and our sad excuse for a Human Rights Act changing so that the British, white, middle classes can no longer be victimisted, discriminated against and generally made to feel like second hand citizens.
The Muslims only want Sharia Law when it suits them and in my opinion, only when they can use it against the true british.
Remember the case of the muslim man who was acquitted by two courts but then sentenced to death by Sharia Law, not so long ago. He returned to england after being released (I wish i knew the full story), so by Sharia Law, we allowed a convicted murderer to return to our shores! Would Pakistan have allowed a white, christian, convicted murderer into their territory? I doubt it.
Regardless of what the Muslims what, as the minority who are treated as if they are the majority, its time our Government stopped being so lillylivered and spineless and got on with providing the British with what they need.
p.s. If Sharia Law was to come into force, it would only make more work for that poor Mrs Cherie Blair, human rights lawyer who obviously has no work to do and no income cus Tony doesn't put in ANY legislation that she would ever profit from! (I was being sarky people) | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 5:15:42 PM |
If Muslims make up less than 3% of the UK population and less than 40% of those surveyed (who were all between 18-24) said that they would prefer to live under Sharia Law, frankly, it's not going to happen. Also, remember that over 60% of the young Muslims surveyed must have said "no"! Msg15
not necessarily
some could have said 'don't know'
You're right, but I still think it's unlikely that less than 40% of 18-24 year old Muslims (and a random assortment of people who don't know what they want) are going to overturn the existing rule of law.
Msg18
Regardless of what the Muslims what, as the minority who are treated as if they are the majority, its time our Government stopped being so lillylivered and spineless and got on with providing the British with what they need.
Do any of us really know what the Muslims want? I certainly don't. I hear constantly about what a loud-mouthed minority, given the oxygen of publicity by the media, want. What about the rest? | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 5:27:48 PM |
Do any of us really know what the Muslims want? I certainly don't. I hear constantly about what a loud-mouthed minority, given the oxygen of publicity by the media, want. What about the rest?
Are the rest of the Muslim community allowed to have an opinion under Sharia Law?
((That was probably a major faux pas - so forgive my ignorance))
However, Seagrave, you are probably right.
I was watching the news yesterday and I was listening to a Muslim Leader spouting absolute crap about the 9 men who have been arrested under the Terrorism Act.
He was drivelling on about how all the police are racist, how the government are doing nothing to help and how the arrested men could never be extremists (regardless of lessons learned in the wake of the London bombings and the preconceived ideas of what a terrorist is, being shattered).
When men like this are allowed to rant and spout bollox on national and international television, it gets me wondering just what the rest of the community actually think. Although, according to this certain leader, his community all felt the same. Betrayed and racially abused.
Do we believe him, that ALL of his community feel the same, because if they do....I say to them...............
If you don't like it, don't bloody live here! | |
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| Western Values - Sharia Law
Posted: 2/3/2007 5:41:01 PM | A German poem from the 1940's, which, whilst being about the Nazi government in Germany, could equally apply to our current spineless government's fixation with trying to pander to the loudest minority voices:
They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time no one was left to speak up. | |
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Posted: 2/3/2007 6:49:19 PM | Msg20
I agree that something should be done about the idiots who rant like this. I don't believe they speak for all Muslims, however. If what I have read is correct, the group arrested earlier this week planned to kidnap and kill Muslim soldiers serving in the Army! | |
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| Western Values - Sharia Law
Posted: 2/4/2007 4:42:39 AM | We should have our country exactly like it is in there own country, laws taxes and housing also social security and wages should be the same, give them 6 months of that they will leave for France Italy or Germany !
Perhaps there attitude to crime is no harsher than we feel, don't forget most of us feel let down by the Justice system of this country! | |
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| Western Values - Sharia Law
Posted: 2/4/2007 6:10:25 AM | some of their rules are fantastic but the majority of them are totally wrong
i like their idea of punishment and i like the idea of cutting off the hands of theives and beheading murderers and how they deal with drug dealers but a lot of their ideas are barbaric and very oppressive as you say when in rome do as the romans do...
i do believe we should bring back capital punishment though now we can positively identify people who commit crimes
if the muslims think that then maybe we should have one law for us westeners and one law for them ran by their own people im sure that they would toe the party line then... | |
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