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Posted: 2/10/2007 2:21:18 AM | I have been browsing some of the profiles and wonder. How come guys don't dress up much anymore? What is up with guys showing up for a date in jeans, tshirt and sneakers. Other times they don't trim their hair or are heavily tatooed. And the scent of cologne.... how come guys don't wear that much anymore? | |
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Posted: 2/10/2007 2:30:07 AM | It is the fashion these days. Fewer and fewere people wear suits to go out to dinner or to meet up with someone for a drink. Most of the first dates these days are much more casual, like coffee, a****ail, a walk through the park, and so on.
On my dates, I will wear jeans, but it will be accompanied with a collared shirt, but that shirt most likely will not be tucked in. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2007 2:46:53 AM | Blame Homophobia!!
Pride in One's Appearance has become synonymous with homosexuality and there are some men that are so homophobic that the merest possibility that someone may, for the briefest of moments, entertain the possibility, fleetingly, that they could, might, just maybe, perhaps, possibly, be homosexual drives these same men to abandon their razor, outlaw deodorant, snap their toothbrush, disassemble their showerhead, undergo cosmetic surgery to increase their sweat glands, smear themselves in oil, drape themselves in ill-fitting clothing, clutch a beer can and slope out the door......
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Posted: 2/10/2007 4:14:59 AM | They do wear cologne. Honestly. Or maybe eau de toillette.
A lot of guys think jeans and T-shirts are smart casual wear.
It's difficult. Female taste is so diverse. Some like smartly groomed men and some like oily greasy bikers. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2007 6:36:24 AM | Depending on where we are going I would gladly dress up. Our school does not let us wear jeans, t-shirts, hoodies and such. Threw the week I am mostly dressed nicely. Dress pants, a nice long sleeved shirt, decent shoes (not sneakers) and a tie.
I find this more to work related, not really something I would wear out on a date unless she would ask me to not wear jeans and a t-shirt she will most likely not see me in the clothing. She is welcome to come see it in my closet but there might be some skeletons that bite. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2007 6:37:28 AM | I no longer have to work in an office where a dress shirt and a tie is considered minimum required proper dress code. Now I can go into work in shorts and sandals if I want to with 5 days worth of facial hair and not having grabbed a shower in the morning...do I do this? You bet, but only when we are working insane 16-20 hour days to get something done.
Problem is back in the days where I had to wear dress clothes, I'd leave work and go somewhere to meet friends and people who didn't know me were like "He is either a lawyer or a used car salesman". HAHA if they only knew. Being an engineer I found it extremely amusing that someone would try to guess what I did or judge me based on the way I dressed.
Times have changed and some men don't want to do it anymore. To each his own. Hanes, the largest make of pantyhose says their sales are down to the point where they may get out of the business. Why? How many women do you know that still wear that torture device on a daily basis?
Me? I miss the days of a nice tight corset...seriously, things change. I still wear suspenders because I just don't like belts that much, but you are not going to see me wearing garters on my dress socks like the used to, there is no need we have better sock technology today.
It comes down to three things. 1. We don't want to do it because we don't want to and that is our choice. 2. We might already be in a relationship and it isn't required anymore. 3. We might just be slobs.
I have over 60 pairs of dress pants, 80 dress shirts and 200 ties that mostly gather dust now. It doesn't bother me. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2007 6:59:49 AM | I wear cologne...wear shoes and wear nice clothes.
I always get a kick out if it when I am at conferences where people dress nice for the day stuff and then go back to their hotel room and take off their best attire and throw on the jeans and T shirts for being social. It is like they dress down for the best part. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2007 7:00:39 AM | bella I was having this conversation with some friends last week and we came to the conclusion that the fashion now is to look as UGLY as you can. It involves changing the hair and gross ways, wearing clothing that does not fit right. I think the fashion is: nonfashion and also to be as repulsive and ugly as one can. I think this is a backlash of the cosmetic surgery as those who can't afford it seem to want to rebel and being ugly and sloppy seem to be where they can, in some way make a statement.
Ugly is the new fashion. Ugly hair- spikes and waxed, ugly clothing, disfigure, scar, brand the body, put earrings in the nose, lips, eyelids and anything that is anti-beauty or anti- appealing. | |
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Posted: 2/10/2007 8:16:28 AM | | As for pics on the profiles, most of the time there isn't a camera around when I am dressed up. As for the date, I always dress for the occasion. If we are going to go out and do fun things like go carts or fair, etc I certainly won't be wearing tie and jacket. If its a reservation restraunt or an event then absolutely | |
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Posted: 2/10/2007 8:19:30 AM | | Everyone is a little different and depending on where you are going is how he/you should dress. | |
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Posted: 3/24/2007 3:12:57 PM | | You are daying guys not men | |
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Posted: 3/24/2007 3:25:24 PM | | its the man that makes the man not the suit or the clothes he's wearing. | |
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Posted: 3/24/2007 10:48:41 PM | | It's to the point where most men won't be caught dead in a suit unless they have to...but honestly, if I could ditch the suits I have to wear to work I would. It's nice to have the layer of professionalism in the workplace but it's better in my opinion to be comfortable. Would you rather date a guy who's uncomfortably tugging at the collar of a suit he takes out for weddings and funerals, or a guy in a dress shirt and jeans/khakis who's obviously comfortable with who he is? | |
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Posted: 3/24/2007 11:09:45 PM | | For me, it depends on the occiasion. I have been know to dress up from time to time. the sad thing is most ladies don't appreciate it and does not notice. No one gives comments anymore. | |
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Posted: 3/24/2007 11:17:57 PM | | dressing up just shows desperation, why the hell dress up for a few beers or some pizza? would you rather go out with someone wearing a mask, or the real thing? | |
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Posted: 3/24/2007 11:37:21 PM | | to me it is not a thing of dressing up, I would not wear a suit to the movies but on the same token I would not jeans to the opera. It all depends on what we are doing. I like to bowl and to bowl in a suit would be counter productive. I like lookng dressed up but I also like to be comfortable. I also wear colonge it comes down mostly to how you were raised I feel | |
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Posted: 3/24/2007 11:40:21 PM | It completely depends on what type of person you are dating.
Most men I have dated come well groomed, some will dress up on their own.
On a first date for coffee I think you are pushing the envelope to ask for a suit unless he is coming from work and he has to wear a suit.
But if you are going to a restaurant for a special occasion, or second date, you can drop hints. That is if you know how. 
Don't do it in a bossy manner. Just ask them what they are going to wear, and that you have a nice new dress you want to wear. If you describe a sexy dress that you have in your closet that you would like to wear...if a guy is the type that likes to look like he's going to the same party as his date, he will put on a clean pressed shirt and slacks.
If a guy has trouble picking up the hint at this point, and says he's going to wear what he has on (jeans and a t-shirt), then perhaps he just isn't your type...if you like to dress up to go out. | |
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Posted: 3/25/2007 12:39:20 AM | Because we are our own Name Brand. I love the jeans because they are
cheap but so damn comfortable.....the more expensive pants that I
do in fact own do look nice but SUCK when it comes to comfort. SUCK BIG TIME.
Cologne: Hugo Boss $60......ok, there's something insane in that
price. Yes it smells nice, but that price is ridiculous. The fashion
industry has some people brainwashed into believing they have
to blow their hard earned cash on over-priced items and I simply
haven't been sucked in as some have. | |
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Posted: 3/25/2007 1:50:25 AM | | For me its a comfort thing. I am most comfortable in jeans and a tshirt, so that's usually what I wear. Simple as that. Never cared if it's fashionable or not. | |
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Posted: 3/25/2007 3:53:12 AM | | if it is something you seek and find attractive well first meet will certainly be a telltale for the future and your choices... | |
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Posted: 3/25/2007 6:32:56 AM | Darlin', I've had self-described "classy" girls show up wearing greasy sweatshirts, torn jeans, and dirty sneakers for a first date.
You can't blame the guys for following their lead.
Women pay lip-service to "nice" guys, but they sleep wih pigs.
So quit oinking and belly up to the trough, or go against the flow and lead by example.
Either way, character will out.
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Posted: 3/25/2007 6:38:19 AM | All I ever wear is jeans and a t-shirt, almost anywhere. So if I'm showing up for a date, that's likely what I'm wearing.
If a woman's turned off by that, she should be dating her accountant, instead of me.
Maybe some people see an important need to be followers of fashion.
I really couldn't be bothered to copy whatever the latest fashion trend is, or isn't, for the purpose of impressing anybody. | |
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Posted: 3/25/2007 7:00:13 AM | It's casual vs. formal.
If it is a formal date which would include a 4 star restaurant and some martinis afterwards then I would consider pulling the suit out of the closet and buffing the shoes.
If its a casual date then chances are I'll be in khakis or jeans, wearing a nice shirt which will be either tucked in or out depending on my mood, and a nice set of shoes.
Either way I'll always be clean cut and wearing cologne. | |
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Posted: 3/25/2007 7:19:11 AM | Blame Homophobia!!
Please, what a load of BS.
OP,
I try to dress for the setting however, I tend to dress more casually as comfort is important to me. I always wear shirts with a collar and would make darn sure I'm showered, shaved, and smelling good before a date no matter where it was.
Is it possible the guys are dressing that way because of where you are going on date and they are just dressing for the setting? I mean, if you meet at a hole in the wall bar I wouldn't expect the guy to show up in a suit.
Almost forgot, profile pics. . . . .Mine were all taken in casual settings; beach in NJ, plane ride back from Cancun, etc. I wanted to show who I am, not who I dress up to be.
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Posted: 3/25/2007 7:34:16 AM | In the animal kingdom, of which we're a part, some species pick lice from their partners hair and eat them.
I thought that was grooming. When I tried it, however, I weas told it was more a social fauxpas than anything else. | |
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