| Low carbing for kids
Posted: 2/13/2007 11:37:54 AM | I'm about to start low-carbing again! My question is "Is following a low-carb diet suitable for children?"
My son suffers from asthma and I can see benefits of reducing his wheat intake.
He takes multi-vitamins everyday. What are your views? | |
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| Low carbing for kids
Posted: 2/13/2007 12:01:51 PM | | My opinion- no way- low-carbing isn't good for anyone. Switch your white carbs to whole wheat, switch candy to fruit- but don't eliminate these things- they are essential for healthy growth. If you're looking for a diet suitable for your whole family try WeightWatchers- it follows the food pyramid and is eating healthy foods in good portion sizes- you can just eat healthy as a family- you can limit your portions and let your kids eat till they are full. Plus- it works (I write this 75lb lighter than I was last year) and is maintainable for life- you don't have to 'start it again' because you're not completely giving anything up so it's sustainable. Just my 2 cents... | |
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| Low carbing for kids
Posted: 2/13/2007 12:22:40 PM | | If he has a wheat allergy you should reduce or totally eliminate his wheat intake. Otherwise I agree with darlyngirl who posted above. My sister tried all sorts of diets over the years, Weight Watchers is the only one that worked for her! | |
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| Low carbing for kids
Posted: 2/13/2007 1:04:13 PM | A low carb diet is a great way of healthy eating for an adult but i would hazard a guess and say not for kids.
All carbs are not "bad" and just reducing the number of bad carbs your son eats and replacing them with the "good" carbs(fruit,veggies and wholegrains)will benefit him hugely.......but we all know how much most kids like eating veggies and grains!!
For you,not only will you feel great,have more energy,better hair and skin and a reduced appetite but you are reducing your risk of cholesterol related problems and especially diabetes and lets be honest you dont see too many obese low carbers floating around!!(these benefits will all apply to your son as well just by swapping the type of carbs he eats)
Low carbing gets a bad rap but mainly because many people dont understand its benefits and it goes against everything we have been told all our lives.I eat this way and have never felt better so go for it.......bring on the steak!!!!  | |
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| Low carbing for kids
Posted: 2/13/2007 1:15:23 PM |  I dont believe that having a steak will reduce "your risk of cholesterol related problems and especially diabetes" Animal fat contributes to high cholesterol ! | |
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Posted: 2/13/2007 1:29:25 PM | I disagree some of those posting. But I could be wrong when it comes to children. You're best bet is to ask his doctor and not uneducated people here [including myself] about this.  | |
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| Low carbing for kids
Posted: 2/13/2007 1:36:10 PM | sarah's got it right.
Consider: There was a time before processed foods and enriched foods and fast foods and chemical ingredients and high fructose corn syrup and hydrogenated oils that children, along with everybody else, ate lower carbs, smaller portions of food, and the carbs they did eat were healthier to have. In fact, that was the case with the world for eons, until recent times.
Don't buy into the gov't's food pyramid nonsense. A lot of that is encouraged because of special interest groups and lobbyists.
Speaking of which, ever wonder why you hardly ever see sugar, which is a natural substance that at least, though it's a "bad" carb, the body knows how to handle, listed as an ingredient anymore, but you'll often see high fructose corn syrup listed, which is an artifical substance made from corn, and is far, far worse for the body?
Animal fat contributes to high cholesterol !
So minimally that it doesn't even count. The body produces more than enough cholesterol, and much more than the amount people intake from their diet. In fact, if one doesn't intake cholesterol in their diet, the body senses that void and is then triggered to produce even more. | |
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Posted: 2/13/2007 1:38:44 PM | carbohydrates are the first choice for energy... if it is not there, the body breaks down and converts proteins... which is very hard on your body after a while.
I agree with switching from refined and simple carbohydrates to the complex variety... whole wheat bread and pasta.. along with protein and healthy fats...
To me it is all about balance... maybe do some research and take the opportunity to model what is healthy for your children :) | |
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Posted: 2/13/2007 1:43:41 PM | "the government's food pyramid nonsense"? No one can tell me I got fat eating apples, bananas, whole wheat pasta. I got fat eating potato chips, cheese, and butter. Since joining WW I eat whole wheat bread several times a week, whole wheat pasta almost nightly, tonnes of fruit and veggies, I exercised and the weight fell off- 70lb in 8 months. That's what I got believing in the government's food pyramid nonsense.
Nothing is bad for you in moderation. I still eat steak sometimes- I just eat half what I normally would have and some extra salad instead. I still eat maple syrup in my oatmeal in the morning, and 1 cup of whole wheat pasta with a cup of veggies and some olive oil for supper.
Definately ask your doctor- but the food pyramid is not "nonsense"... | |
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Posted: 2/13/2007 2:00:05 PM | Thanks for the back up creativguy
People all have their differing opinions and are entitled to them.......but ignorance of the full and correct facts often rides along with this.
my opinion is just that.........an opinion,but would like to think my nursing degree with a speciality in endocrine nursing and diet would mean i kind of have an idea what im talking about!!
For the record animal fat does not increase cholesterol unless it is combined with all the other "rubbish"we feed our bodies these days,so common sense would say if you are going to cut someting out cut out the rubbish not the good stuff we have been eating since time began.
Just an opinion | |
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Posted: 2/13/2007 2:02:30 PM | If your child is active I would say keep most carbs, but as suggested, switch them to whole wheats, etc. They do need that if they are running around.
If they aren't very active (which is something they should be) I would actually stay off the fruit, lots of sugars. Less pasta too, weather its whole wheat or not. All depends on this kids current stats really. | |
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Posted: 2/13/2007 2:11:47 PM | | but we have been eating fruit since time began. I'm just saying it's possible to loose weight without giving anything up. I would rather be fat than live a chocolate-free existance. But I don't have to be- I can have my no sugar added hotchocolate and loose weight too :) | |
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Posted: 2/13/2007 2:27:00 PM | Exactly and fruit contains cabohydrate but its a "good" carb.
Think maybe there is a belief that by low-carbing people assume we mean cutting out all carbs but it really means ensuring the carbs we do eat are the good carbs that our bodies need and know how to utilise and moderating the amount so our bodies fat burn(as they are designed to do!)As for the chocolate thing.......no one can live without it........even dedicated low-carbers cheat sometimes!! | |
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Posted: 2/14/2007 5:01:26 AM | | low- no carb/ atkins what ever you want to call it is bad news, you can send yourself into acidosis. | |
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Posted: 2/14/2007 8:26:49 AM | Before considering any new diets, talk to two or three doctors to get their opinions and do lots of personal research as it's your life and family.
from stumptuous.com dieting 101
Ketosis:
There are two kinds of ketosis: ketosis-lipolysis and ketosis-acidosis, and hand-wringing over ketogenic diets usually starts from confusing the two. When the body does not have any glucose available, as in a diet which eliminates carbohydrates, it manufactures another fuel from fat, and uses ketones as the fuel delivery system. To use the fat for fuel, the body breaks it down into glycerol and free fatty acids, which then break down into couplings of two-carbon compounds called ketone bodies. This is a perfectly normal state of affairs for the body. This is how it metabolizes fat. Lipolysis simply means fat burning. With sufficient intake of dietary protein, the body continues to be able to use glucose as fuel while optimally burning bodyfat.
However, in a fasting state, the body can enter ketosis-acidosis or ketoacidosis. Diabetic ketoacidosis (DKA) is a state of absolute or relative insulin deficiency, and in rare cases is fatal. Alcoholic ketoacidosis is along the same lines, but complicated by an episode of binge drinking (ethanol metabolism further reduces available glucose) combined with fasting. Non-diabetics who do not fast or regularly binge drink are not at risk.
Blood Type can also determine how well or what diet will work best for you. I'm type O blood type, so Low Carb diets are perfect for me. I lost 26 pounds in six weeks with no muscle loss (some water). After two years on an Atkins style diet (protein power diet sort of) my LDL/HDL ratio dropped by 40% and my triglycerides dropped by 50% with my blood pressure settling around 110 over 70.
Currently I eat lots of salad, vegetables and smaller quantities of fish, poultry and meat. | |
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| Low carbing for kids
Posted: 2/14/2007 9:48:15 AM |
People all have their differing opinions and are entitled to them.......but ignorance of the full and correct facts often rides along with this.
my opinion is just that.........an opinion,but would like to think my nursing degree with a speciality in endocrine nursing and diet would mean i kind of have an idea what im talking about!!
For the record animal fat does not increase cholesterol unless it is combined with all the other "rubbish"we feed our bodies these days,so common sense would say if you are going to cut someting out cut out the rubbish not the good stuff we have been eating since time began.
sarah5028 I agree with you. I didn't know you are a nurse. Both my mother and sister are nurses. Plus I've work with an endocrinlogist so I was told to stay away from alot of enrice food and carbs. He raise his children in that diet and I was sort of raise in that life style too. I live it now. And I'm alot more healthier then most people my age and under then me | |
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Posted: 2/14/2007 10:23:31 AM | i think you can not beat fresh fruit and vegetable everyday. lean meats, fish, and carbs. the thing is the body needs them. you wouldn't expect a car to run without petrol. the body needs carbs for energy, protein for muscle tissue growth and repair. vitamins and minerals to aid concentration. we also need fats in our diets. to put a kid on a diet unless aided by a medical professional is wrong. you may seriously damage his/her health. if you buy food in its natural form then all the better. stay away from processed foods, theyhave hydrogenated fats, saturated, too much salt, etc. my kid never has processed food. i just don't allow it.
take your son swimming regularly, it'll help with his asthma, it did withmy daughter, she swims 3 times a week and hardly ever needs her inhaler now. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2007 6:33:57 AM | I believe children should enjoy eating food and not worry about their diet.
You only get to be a kid once. Enjoy your youth while it last.
Children have a lifetime to worry about their diet, but they only have a short amount of time to enjoy a good chili cheese hotdog. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2007 11:22:36 PM | Consider this: when was wheat added to mans diet? Between 5-10,000 years ago when the shift from a hunter-gatherer to farming society occurred. When did the incidence of obesity, diabetes and heart disease rise sharply? 5-10,000 years ago.
Before the white man interfered with their diet Eskimos ate nothing but meat and fats and were perfectly healthy. Now that they eat chips and bread, they're obese.
I would have no qualms about totally eliminating wheat from a kids diet. If you don't want to totally eliminate carbs push rice instead. Although frankly all grains and legumes and starchy foods are bad.
For two million years man ate meat, some nuts/fruit/leafy vegetables but very little of the latter. Since the introduction of grains and dairy it's been downhill healthwise ever since. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2007 11:38:11 AM | "For two million years man ate meat, some nuts/fruit/leafy vegetables but very little of the latter. Since the introduction of grains and dairy it's been downhill healthwise ever since. "
actually homo sapiens have only been in existence for about 120,000 years | |
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Posted: 5/27/2007 5:50:39 PM | | It wasn't the introduction of grains. It was the introduction of high fat, over processed, nutrient stripped crap combined with a decline in physical activity that made people overweight. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2007 6:57:33 PM | | i think why should we tell our children what to eat when we were allowed to eat what ever we wanted when we were kids i think the pc band wagon as gone to far. | |
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Posted: 5/27/2007 7:31:57 PM |
actually homo sapiens have only been in existence for about 120,000 years
It's a bit longer ago than that:
http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/geo_timeline.html
But how do you figure this went? One day Mr. and Mrs Homo erectus had the first Homo sapiens offpsring and told him "ok, look you're a new species. You ened to eat different things than what we do"? | |
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| Low carbing for kids
Posted: 5/27/2007 9:19:53 PM | | if bullshit were dollars there'd be a lot of wealthy people here | |
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