tdh46
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 1:30:33 PM | I met someone off pof over the weekend, this person i have been talking to for about a month online. We took a chance and actually made a date instead of meeting for coffee or a drink to see if we connected. Anyway we decided to go out to dinner and if it's all good we were going dancing after.
We met at a very nice restaurant downtown and i must admit i was impressed with her appearance, she looked better in person that she did in her pictures.
We started talking after being seated at the restaurant and things were going along great, then she started scratching herself, It started out as a little scratch on her arm but soon she reminded me of a dog with fleas. I looked over at her and she had her eyes closed and was just scratching away oblivious to everyone around her. Naturally i was concerned about her but she said she was ok.
The couple next to us gave her a look like she had the plague or something. As if that was not enough, she excused herself and went to the ladies room, I can only imagine the places she was scratching for the 10 minutes while she was gone.
Anyway she gets back and our dinner arrive, she had ordered chicken, which she proceeds to eat with her hands, then she would lick her fingers between bites!!!! not one or two fingers but she would lick all ten one at a time and make a snapping sound after each finger.
needless to say after all that licking and scratching, there was no dancing and i ran home and changed my profile to forums only.
Maybe i am just seeing too much into this, there might be a very logical explanation for her actions. | |
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 1:44:39 PM | I read this, and was debating with myself, if I should answer it seriously, or not.
For a change of pace, I’ll go with somewhat of a serious answer for now.
Perhaps she has a slight skin condition which was acting up on her. It might have been because of nerves. Hell, she could have been having an allergic reaction to something, but was embarrassed to say so, and you didn’t even have the courtesy to ask if she was alright, but instead you assumed that she is some kind of a “freak.”
Also, according to the rules of fine etiquette, it is quite alright to use ones fingers, when eating chicken. The finger licking might have been going overboard.
I have seen people who were trying to look distinguished in a fine dining situation, and they picked the grapes off of the....well, what ever the things that the grapes hang off of are called, and placed it on their plates, the proceeded to use a fork to eat it.
Fine dining etiquette, is not meant to make someone look ridiculous. For instance, the “proper” way to eat soup according the fine dining manners, is to scoop the soup AWAY from you. Some might think that this is basically for show, but the reason for it, is that in this way, one has less of a chance of having the soup drip on them.
One weird thing however, that I don’t understand, is the cutting your food with your fork and knife, then switching the fork from the left hand to the right, before picking up the cut up piece of flesh. That’s the proper way to do it in the U.S, but in Europe, we just keep the fork in the left hand, and eat like that.
Ok, I have no idea why I am rambling about this. Anyway, if you decide to see that lady again, just take some Benadryl with you the next time, or if she starts scratching so hard that she draws blood, bring an Epinephrine injection. | |
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tdh46
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 2:04:35 PM | You may be quite right, but my date scratching herself over dinner was a huge turnoff for me. I am sure there might be a very logical explanation for it but the vision of her scratching herself is still in my head.
And licking your finger in a four star restaurant is just plain classless. | |
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 2:08:21 PM |
but my date scratching herself over dinner was a huge turnoff for me.
If she grossed you out that much, then there really wasn't anything that you could have done differently I guess.
What happened after dinner? | |
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Sigi
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tdh46
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 2:51:05 PM | Around here it is a common occurrence for people to advise that instead of coming right out and telling someone you don't think they're a match, you should instead do something that will turn off the other person. Act mentally unstable, talk about a love affair with a sibling, do something considered socially unacceptable in a public place, you get the idea.
Personally I find that kind of advice and behavior childish, but is it possible that's what was going on? You said there was no dancing after dinner, but you didn't say whether that was your decision or hers. | |
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tdh46
| Joined: 1/7/2007 Msg: 9 | |
| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 2:55:25 PM | Totally my idea Ms Taken, she was kind of upset when i said i think we should call it a night. I made some excuse about having to get up early the next morning and needed to get some sleep. I have spoken to her since and going out with her again would be something she was totally open to....( she told me as much).
I still have not gotten the courage to bring up the scratching thing and she never mentioned it either. I must admit i might be somewhat curious to see if it's just a one time thing or is she just a scratcher that needs a scratching post. | |
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 3:17:36 PM | Ok the finger licking and smacking I could Not get past...
Just recently I wore a new sweater and I was scatching like mad...Don't know what that material was but as soon as I got home the thing went into the garbage.
This happened to me one other time and it turned out i was allergic to a particular brand of soap powder. | |
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 3:28:02 PM | Wow man....all that itching and scratching from the date would spook me out too. Plus all the finger chicken licking antics.... that's one bird who's feathers you never want to ruffle. Plenty of other hens in the coop though....don't let it alter your Rooster status to pick another. | |
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 3:35:12 PM | and THAT is why you should meet for coffee before going to a four star dining experience....
If she was nervous, did you try to put her at ease, or did your own discomfort increase her anxiety response... IF it was a rash, or allergic reaction, did you stop to think in the restroom she may have tried to wash areas that were reacting trying not to ruin your first meeting?
The finger licking thing.. THAT was not polite at a four star, but was technically acceptable, you could have simply suggested she would ruin her manicure that way.. and see if that would have triggered something in her mind.
I am not casting blame, but you could have been a bit more charitable with the poor dear. Manners can be learned, and should you wish to try that take her to NEW type of ethnic food and show her by example.. make it an adventure, she we get used to following your lead then.
Anyway... I do hope she feels better where ever she is.. and IF your still talking to her then you weren't THAT put off. IF you are then don't lead her on.. that is unfair as well.
GOOD LUCK! | |
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 3:37:27 PM | Maybe you made her nervous,,,,,,, nervous exzema...
It would gross me out to.. Maybe she was just itching to get you in bed,,,,,, 
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RJB888
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 3:42:58 PM | Eating with her hands and licking her finger in a fine dinning restaurant.. Not good.
Wonder how she eats in the privacy of her home. Scary!!!
Edit:
I couldn't help but think of the movier Christmas Story when Ralphie's little brother didn't want to eat. The mom saying: "show mommy how the piggy eats." | |
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 3:55:22 PM | Call me shallow if you must but.... etiquette is huge on my list and is definitely a test I have run before deciding on whether or not I should see someone again. Goodness only knows I have tried to look past it before know but EWWWWW (although sitting with someone who has no table manners is a very effective way too lose weight)
If she was an embarrassment at dinner what would she be like in front of the family ? I don’t blame you for running home I would have too!
I'm with Geneseo on this one
<div class="quote"> One weird thing however, that I don’t understand, is the cutting your food with your fork and knife, then switching the fork from the left hand to the right, before picking up the cut up piece of flesh. That’s the proper way to do it in the U.S, but in Europe, we just keep the fork in the left hand, and eat like that.
What is with that ???? | |
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 3:55:49 PM | The scratching - There could be a valid explanation... Rash/hives due to nervousness, eczema, new wool sweater. Now if it were me and I couldn't resist the urge to scratch (believe me I would try like hell), I would say "I didn't realize how itchy this new sweater is." or "Sorry about the scratching, I sometimes break out in hives when I'm nervous" or whatever to at least the other person know that I am aware that I may be turning them off and I feel bad about it.
The chicken - Finger-lickin' good is fine for KFC but a fine restaurant? Not so much. | |
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 4:03:31 PM | Could have been DRY SKIN. You must know with the weather being cold in Michigan, now. Skin gets dry. Thats why they make shower gels with oils. Suggest to her that she buy some of that or get some Vasaline Intensive Care Lotion.
I know Soaps with fragrance make my skin dry out. Lotions with Fragrance just don't work for me. | |
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 4:14:12 PM | I instantly thought along the same lines as Ms Taken. Although you believe otherwise, it seems to me that your date did this with intentions of hopefully turning you off on purpose. I mean who in their right mind would behave in this manner on a first date especially coming from a so-called lady? What happened to proper etiquette??? Was she raised on a farm amongst the farm animals??? How did she seem while you were talking during that month before you two met? Did she seem like a lady with class? I don't know OP but I'd say if this is her natural behaviour no love lost my friend. Best of luck to you moving forward.  | |
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 4:42:19 PM | How could she be so uncouth (table manners) and get past your initial screening, OP?
Or was there no screening? And you take her to a 4-**** restaurant?
Are you nutz??
*squint* Anyone take a look at his profile? Right.
PS: I have had the same reaction as Judy to angora sweaters. She might also have a mild OCD complex, scratching is common. Maybe she has a handwashing hangup, too. Perhaps it was a good thing you couldn't follow her into the womans restroom.
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| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 4:55:56 PM | Sounds like the guy I got married to on the first Saturday after I didn't need parental consent at 18. He suffered from eczema which I know is a real problem for people but everytime he got nervous he'd start breaking out.
I had a very high sex drive and he didn't so it got to the point that he'd become anxious everytime I got horny.
I don't expect miracles from a guy but give me a break....I felt like the most unattractive woman in the universe. | |
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tdh46
| Joined: 1/7/2007 Msg: 24 | |
| we just started dinner and she is scratching herself. Posted: 3/8/2007 5:30:09 PM | Actually i might go out with her again this weekend, the scratching thing might just be an allergy to something....And i think i will stay away from eating anything with her. This is my new way of looking at this dating thing. In the past i ran at the first site of anything that bugged me. If i can actually go out with her again it would be a step in the right direction, and shows some kind of growth on my part. I have been doing alot wrong in dating lately(or so it seems) so i will do totally the opposite of what my guts say this time.
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