| Parenting vs Pet Care
Posted: 3/12/2007 10:27:06 AM | I did a thread search to see if this is redudent and based on what i am asking it doesn't appear that way...
so do you think that a way a man or women treats there pet(s) is any indication on how they may treat there child or future children?????? Esp when it comes to discipline??? | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 10:29:27 AM | | Always watch how a person treats animals, eventually they will treat you the same way! | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 10:35:29 AM | Actually if more parents disciplined their kids and also interacted with them as a good pet owner disciplines and interacts with their pet then a lot of the problems with todays young people may possibly have avoided.
A pet that is taught correctly when young knows howto act and behave when it is an adult. This cannot be said for a lot of people :)
But hey this is just my opinion.
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Posted: 3/12/2007 10:36:27 AM | yep!.I have two furry cuddly cats....a hamster..and two guinea pigs...I spoil all of them!,!.I have a beautiful daughter who is as spoiled and loved as the animals we have!.she is the one who keeps bringing home these animals..because she has the biggest heart I know!.but I cuddle her and love her ..and treat her..the same way as the animals!.( she does come first though!) I think it is a good indication on how kids or anyone will be treated based on how your family pet is treated!. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 10:55:46 AM | This topic has been done to death in many forums. Pets versus partners and pets instead of parenting have been oft discussed topics here on POF.
Humans and their pets form bonds. To say that these relationships are on par with human-human relationships and to infer that human ownership of animals somehow prepares a human adult for parenting, makes them better parents, or is a sign of affection capacity is an inane and presumptious claim with little merit.
What is true is that human bonds with their animals has some benefit in mental health and wellbeing because its provides companionship and limited return of affection. There maybe physical benefits when the animal has a working capacity (service actions, sport, martial or emergency actions) or provides some protection against intruders or assault. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 11:14:36 AM |
Humans and their pets form bonds. To say that these relationships are on par with human-human relationships and to infer that human ownership of animals somehow prepares a human adult for parenting, makes them better parents, or is a sign of affection capacity is an inane and presumptious claim with little merit.
So what do you make of the fact that serial killers are often known to torture animals before they start to prey on people?
To the OP: I think it could be a could sign. A dog is somewhat of a child that never grows up. One must care for it constantly and nurture it, teach it, etc. If someone is able to display these capabilities with a pet, I think they would definitely display these capabilities and more with a child.
Of course there are always people who would rather have pets than children but that's another topic.
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Posted: 3/12/2007 11:19:58 AM | Too funny fitchick....*laughing*...you have how many kids?...
Even to compare the two is assinine.....but hey, that's just my opinion......
OMG, *still laughing*
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Posted: 3/12/2007 11:24:23 AM | I think this is an entirely fair question.
The only problem is how we apply our own personal answers.
Much to my surprise, I tend to agree with those who say yes - how one cares for a pet indicates how they may (or do) treat any offspring. If you are compassionate with animals then you are far more likely to be compassionate with children. I don't see how the logical jump is too difficult. Just never thought about it ..
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Posted: 3/12/2007 11:35:47 AM | God....I hope not. I treat my dog like a dog - in a manner that it understands. I don't humanize it.
My children are treated like 'human' children - no co-relation between the two. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 11:37:53 AM | I'm firm but fair with my children,I'm also firm but fair with my pooch.They know where the boundries are.In return there is mutual respect.
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Posted: 3/12/2007 11:58:28 AM | i just wish the little (and big) critters could do what a child does when it falls ill or gets injured, and *tell you* when they have pain or feel ill!!!!!!!!!!!
lord, that would save on worry, stress and vet bills! | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 12:10:48 PM |
Too funny fitchick....*laughing*...you have how many kids?...
Even to compare the two is assinine.....but hey, that's just my opinion......
OMG, *still laughing*
I dont think it is. I was taking a crim course and they said alot of serial killers mistreated or killed animals growing up. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 12:34:04 PM | Animals are animals, children are children. I think that watching a person react to other people and other children is a better way to see how they may react to a future child. I'm an active, responsible and a darm good mom, yet I don't like pets, don't have any and really don't want any....doesn't mean I am psychotic....well....... | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 12:45:06 PM | Absolutely it's an indication. If somebody doesn't care for animals, that doesn't mean that they won't care for people, BUT people who are cruel towards animals are cruel towards people, and people who treat their pets with love and compassion have demonstrated their capacity for such emotion.
And yes, especially when it comes to discipline. If the dog pees on the carpet, is it reprimanded in a firm but fair manner and put outside and encouraged to go there? Or does the person fly into a rage, yell, and hit the dog? If a person loses their temper when a dog misbehaves, chances are good they will react the same way when a child misbehaves. A person who is willing to put in the time to shape a dog's behaviour with non-violent techniques is likely to do the same with a child; a person who lashes out with punishment without ever trying to teach a dog the right way to behave is likely to take the same approach with a child.
For myself, I never trusted myself to have children. I never believed I could make the sacrifices my mother made, nor dedicate the amount of time to a child that she dedicated to me. And then one sunday morning it struck me: If I was willing to drag my ass out of bed early in the morning on a weekend (I am so not a morning person), drive for an hour, hang out in a field for several hours, then drive another hour home, just so that my dog could chase a lure across a field a few times (something that he loved doing), maybe I wouldn't do too badly with a kid. I'm sure hockey practices can't be any more boring than lure practices.
Then again, many people who know my dogs might point out that if I were to have children they'll likely be spoiled brats. LOL
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Posted: 3/12/2007 12:47:10 PM | Thanx for the mis-quote seximami....
IMO... It is plain stupid to believe a correlation can be found between how one treats their pets as opposed to their children....I mean really....pets are not people....
I am with bossy on this one, I am not a pet person, but I am a damn good parent, and have kids over all the time, they are the little ones found climbing all over me, and I am the one in the back-yard having waterfights or telling scary stories too when I have big sleep overs...
Bacause I do not like pets, makes no difference in the way I raise my child...If you love your pet as much as your children, then your in need of a visit from child sevices....
I once flushed a goldfish down the toilet, damn I must be the 
"Wow, you treat your dog sooooo good, you would be an Excellent Parent"!!
Blah.
Kids don't "sit", they don't "lay down", they don't adhere to training..(having a mind of their own and all)...and you can't tie them up...it takes over a year to house train them, and I'll tell ya one more thing....
Children will be the greatest friend you will ever have......
Edit; VVVV...This from a person who does not even have kids....blah blah...VVVVV
...Too funny....VVVV.Sucks when they don't agree huh?....VVVV | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 12:55:24 PM |
It is plain stupid to believe a correlation can be found between how one treats their pets as opposed to their children....I mean really....pets are not people....
No, they're not. But the correlation is there.
Obviously, you can't base it on whether or not a person likes or owns cats or dogs. But for those that do have these pets, you can judge how they behave towards living beings in their care.
I spend a lot of time observing people around me, and I've spent a lot of time at dog shows; it's actually quite amazing how people's attitudes and behaviours towards their dogs and their attitudes and behaviours towards their children are very similar.
sv
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Kids don't "sit", they don't "lay down", they don't adhere to training and you can't tie them up...
They don't adhere to training? You mean you can't teach them to sit at the table during a meal? You can't teach them to go to bed when they are told? You can't teach them to pick up their toys? You can't send them to their room or make them sit in a corner if they are misbehaving. Wow. How out of control are your kids??? It has nothing to do with "having a mind of their own" - dogs have that, too, if you don't discipline them. It's all about discipline.
I'll tell ya one more thing.... Children will be the greatest friend you will ever have......
Oh, please, let's not confuse the issue. this isn't about whether kids or pets are better, it's about judging peoples behavior.
I don't plan on being a 'friend' to my children, any more than I am a 'friend' to my dogs. I will be a parent. Friends don't discipline one another, don't set behaviour limits on one another - oh, wait, maybe that's the reason so many kids are out of nowadays - parents are too busy being friends and not parents.
Oh, and just because I don't have kids myself doesn't mean that I can't judge how other people treat their children. Puh-lease. And I don't need people to agree with me to know that I'm right. :) Like I said, I've seen enough of it to know that there is a correlation. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 1:49:39 PM | Why when it comes to disipline?
I think having a pet is a lot of repsonsibility... just like children are.... but, I don't know if a man would treat a child the same way they treat their pet. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 2:10:55 PM | Save your entire comment semper....print it out and put in on your fridge...
After year one of having kids, read it and see how completely ridiculous your post sounds..
I am not flamin ya....You just have the same ideology way too many non-parents have..
Easy to say you will do this and this, perhaps even this and this....But I know, because I have been there....done that....me kids are in perfect running order....never once even had to raise my voice, cause they are my friends, and respect far more boundries than an dog's simple mind.
You have no right to judge.....go pet your poodle and give em a bath, cause I can Guarantee it is not as easy as it looks.....as far as not being your child's friend well, THAT, is the downfall of WAY to many kids, as they will Never trust you to speak their minds.....
Pets vs Children....HA.
Parenting vs Pet Care.....HA. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 2:20:31 PM |  I treat my dog like a people! 
my dog is treated like a baby, and loved very much. I treat woman i fall for the same way..
Ps.. i got a fish.. one of them pretty fighting fish and he just got a new tank, plants and some rocks.. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 2:39:37 PM | I think to an extent there can be comparisons made, some of the same qualities make a good parent as a good pet owner, patience and the ability to show some love and affection are some that come to mind immediately. I used to date a guy who got a dog who was a really sweet husky but needed training, he used yelling and intimidation as his training technique, no such thing as positive reinforcement in his books. After I started spending time with him and his kids, I realized he did the same to them...with much the same result, you can get children and animals to react out of fear, or out of love. In the end we broke up because he also felt that was a good way to get me to "toe the line."
I have both a child and pets, I do my best to give all of them what they need to thrive in life, and while, of course, my daughter comes first over anyone in my life, now that she's a teenager and no longer has quite as much time for dear old Mom, I'm kinda glad my dog and cat still like to curl up on the couch to watch a movie once in a while, and if I ever do meet anyone on this site, they don't have to love my pets, but they had certainly better respect the fact that I do. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 4:16:24 PM |
Too funny fitchick....*laughing*...you have how many kids?...
Even to compare the two is assinine.....but hey, that's just my opinion......
OMG, *still laughing*
Your right, comparing is assinine.... At least pets are likeable... | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 4:34:37 PM | | Showing compassion and love, no matter what sort of relationship that may be, to me, is a positive sign. Something as simple as how someone speaks to a clerk in a store, or how they treat a server in a restaurant, tells me alot about what sort of person they are. | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 5:30:16 PM | With the whole serial killer thing people are using the extreme...
There is a trend with rapist and serial killers Torturing and Killing animals. Now depending on your defintion of torture, it's very different from what some people might precieve as being mean or "not-right" ...
When rapist and serial killers do to animals it's agreed upon by everyone as no jock toture and could not be watched by most persons.
Also alot of people also beleive animals have no souls and where put on earth to be used for humans purpose no matter what that is and since they are raised from kids to beleive this it's kinda hard to fault them in there actions...
Also I know some people that treat there animals MUCH better then they treat there family. Have you ever met a horse fanatic? | |
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Posted: 3/12/2007 5:35:18 PM | | Just to clarify as to why i asked this question is because I witnessed a man discipling his dog in a manner that made me wonder if he disciplined his child in the same way.. it was very agressive and he was very stern in his voice.. he was not abusive to the dog however it got alot of people staring at him. | |
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