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Posted: 4/19/2005 11:59:17 PM | I refuse to shop there. The fact that the largest company in America got there by exporting jobs to a country in which if you complain too much about stuff you get jailed is appalling. I bet libertarians buy guns at wally mart too.
I'm not opposed to trade, but there has to be a minimun standard. Otherwise its just the ol boys networks gettin rich again.
The lowest price is not even the law. On loss leaders maybe. But not on everything. If you want to save .05 by exporting democracy, keep on consuming yourselves to death then. BTW Nice nieghbourhoods :P | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 12:31:37 AM | | If I remember right, they're trying to get a new Marine Drive location approved by City of Vancouver by making it an "environmentally-friendly" store design. Interesting tactic for sure, but no amount of friendly design is going to stop them from driving every business out of the area. Still amazes me that they still get approvals despite their well-known and evil business tactics. I wonder how those executives sleep at night? - oh... right... by counting dollar signs. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 12:44:00 AM | | Now, if you can just convince the thousands, upon thousands, of customers to NOT shop there, you will have gotten somewhere. Another b1tch topic, with no use.... | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 12:47:48 AM | Sorry, not going to go buy something more expensive just because they offend people or whatever. I have no clue what they have supposedly done. Only thing I know is that they are cheaper than every other store which means I can actually afford to buy things I wouldn't be able to otherwise.
Show me a store that offers the same merchandise at the same price or lower and I will never shop at Walmart again. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 1:12:58 AM | yes it does suck. but i still shop there.
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Posted: 4/20/2005 1:26:00 AM | | I don't think anyone really blames people for shopping at Wal-Mart - it's natural that people will go where prices are cheapest. The traditional knock on them is the poor working conditions, and because they're so big they can take a loss on their merchandise in order to drive smaller businesses under. Once the competition is out of town, they can raise them again. They've used questionable tactics to get around by-laws restricting store sizes and the like. Shoppers get cheaper prices, but some argue you end up losing in the long run because the larger economy gets depressed (lower wages for lots of workers, money goes out of the local economy, etc.). It's all the classic knocks against corporations - Wal-Mart is just an especially good target. In Canada at least, an attempt by Wal-Mart to enter an area always stirs up a big fuss because so many communities have gotten worked over in the past. Beside the above, many people don't like the sudden increase in traffic and pollution that accompanies the flocks coming to a new Wal-Mart store. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 1:40:15 AM |
Now, if you can just convince the thousands, upon thousands, of customers to NOT shop there, you will have gotten somewhere. Another b1tch topic, with no use....
Call me an idealist, but it would be nice if we could get 1000's of peopel to THINK about wtf they are doing as well and take responsibitliy for thier actions rather than being led solely by thier greed.... but hey...its just a dream.. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 4:13:54 AM | actually I live somewhere where wal-mart was fixing to build a new store, the people come together and protested them putting the new store where it was going to go,
(across from a school house and right in the middle of 2 historic districts)
the people won their fight and Wal-Mart will not be going there
so just to let you know, your voice does count when you think it doesnt  | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 4:17:51 AM | hey slurpee, you going to pay my bills so i have a place to live? If so then I will stop shopping at walmart. Until then, I can't afford to shop anywhere else.
Greed has nothing to do with it, survival does. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 4:21:46 AM | lol I know right evil....where else can you get 6 rolls of toilet paper for under a dollar? and I have noticed that the super Wal-marts always have the freshest meats and so much more variety
I swear I could go in that place every day of my life spend at least $100 and need more the next day when I go back!
But they really are popping up everywhere....where it used to be convenient to drive 15 min down the road to the nearest Wal-Mart..now you can basically drive down the street and one is within walking distance
I like walmart...it does create jobs and a lot of them and not always for hispanics and other minorites..I know a lot of people that work there and say that the benefits are good | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 4:26:25 AM | Not here, the nearest one is quite a distance away. I live downtown so any kind of big store requires at least 15 minutes on the train to get to.
Plus we still have Zellers in business (i'm in canada) and they don't look like they are going anywhere, anytime soon. But walmart is cheaper than zellers.
Walmart pays really good wages too. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 6:39:04 AM | I don't shop there, I don't mind paying a little more money to
someone with better business ethics. But thats just me... | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 6:43:48 AM | They just built a new super-center up the road from me and it is actually very NICE. It's not the old Wal-Marts of a few years ago (dirty, crowded, dingy). It's clean, bright, with wide aisles and a great selection. I liked it so much that I became a stockholder.
Its one of the ones with the gas-pumps in the parking lot. If you pay with your Wal-Mart credit card you get a .03 cent per gallon discount. I'm sold!
The employees are always friendly and helpful and I figured out that i'm saving about 35% on my weekly grocery bill by shopping there instead of the Kroger I used to shop at.
I honestly dont buy all of the hype that wal-mart has too many goods imported from China (do you think Target or K-Mart are any different???)
Nor do I buy the hype that Wal-Mart puts mom n' pop shops out of business. Well heck folks. Welcome to capitalism. Build a better mousetrap and people will flock to your doorstep. Here's an interesting fact: The supercenter they built here was the only building in the middle of a field. Nothing else for 10 miles in either direction (except for a gas station and liquor store). Within 6 months of the Wal-Mart opening that one little lonesome intersection has attracted a dozen restaurants, a home-depot, a Barnes and Noble, two car dealerships, a blockbuster video and more. So it would seem that all of the people coming to shop at Wal-Mart CREATED a market for this little no-name intersection.
I don't buy the hype that Wal-Marts pay and benefits are unreasonably low. Why? Because slavery was abolished a long time ago. These employees made a CHOICE to interview there. and frankly, they seem quite happy (at least they're friendly and helpful). I sincerely doubt that K-Mart, Target, etc. pay significantly more than Wal-Mart. Their health benefits are a little high dollar -- I can admit that. But it prevents people from going to the emergency room for a common cold. Basically they have a deductible. Once they meet their deductible then the insurance covers the rest. It makes people good consumers of their medical needs. It makes them shop around and use common sense before rushing off to the hospital for a splinter.
So why do I shop at Wal-Mart? Why did I become a stockholder? (which by the way is darned near a BARGAIN right now) Simple. Always low prices.
It would COST me money to shop elsewhere. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 6:56:55 AM | | you got it tera, for many it is about survival, I would like to have ideals but I can't afford them right now, my daughter needs shoes, clothes, toys, food, and a million other things. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 7:01:35 AM | Gee, don't see the motivation behind your post Chatpilot. 
Walmart likes to put manufacturers out of business by setting
them up and then pulling the plug when their prices need
to increase. All so the stock holders can be happy, and the
customers can be fooled into thinking everything in the store is
the best price in town (which is complete BS, by the way
Happy Shoppers) They are very good with the Ads and the
end caps and the perception of "Always Low Prices".
Try a little experiment sometime... you might be surprized.
Sorry, but last I checked the price of everything was going up,
and for Walmart to force companies under by cancelling huge
orders because the manufacturer needs to raise some cost due
to operating prices and raw materials is bull-pucky.
They suck. You kids have fun saving that extra 50 cents on a
piece of crap toaster. I'll shop at Meijer and Target... they have
much more interesting and quality stuff anyways. I'm sure
they'll miss me at Wal-Mart. LOL! | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 7:08:39 AM | ^^^ Wow... another thing we agree on. Thats it, we really are in the End Days!  | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 7:13:34 AM | | ^^^ Yep, leaning a bit to the left there buddy. LOOK OUT! | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 7:13:48 AM | | I never shop at walmart. And I agree on was Shan said above me. Walmart is a retail machine but the pressure they put on suppliers is insane. The business I work for makes a product I'm all of you have used. But we have limited production capacity. Since we can fill small orders for Walmart quickly, they assume we can fill any order for them quickly. So they will place an order for 10 times what they have previously ordered and expect it in 3 days. And if we don't make it, they try to ding us with a late order charge. It's like dealing with Darth Vader and being behind schedule. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 7:17:05 AM | I really need to hand it to the people that took Wal-Mart and turned it into the largest retailer in the country. They showed ingenuity and drive to create this business and they have obviously filled a huge need or they would have never become so successful.
People will always complain about them but their bottom line is pretty strong and for scores of people it is the best way to shop. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 7:18:12 AM | | My uncle who is deaf and has severe back problems is employed by Sam's Club, its the only place that would give him a job. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 9:13:15 AM |
I really need to hand it to the people that took Wal-Mart and turned it into the largest retailer in the country. They showed ingenuity and drive to create this business and they have obviously filled a huge need or they would have never become so successful.
People will always complain about them but their bottom line is pretty strong and for scores of people it is the best way to shop
Ok...I don't usually do this.. but you MORON....
The ONLY way Wally-Mart got so big was gets almost everything from COMMUNIST CHINA! There goes your CAPATALIST , FREE MARKET FORCES argument. I can see where this is going. The ultimate capatlist system : slavery.
And Tera, is it really a question of 'survival' or 'keepin up with the joneses' ? Try Freecycle.org. Hell, if its about survival, you can get Free FOOD from the food bank. But its not. Its about trying to save that extra buck here and there so one can go out and buy more crap. I will admit my own guilt here as well. Its societally conditioned. But we do have to make choices. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 9:22:29 AM |
I refuse to shop there. The fact that the largest company in America got there by exporting jobs to a country in which if you complain too much about stuff you get jailed is appalling.
Which country is that? | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 9:23:52 AM | | Large crowds annoy me, so I choose not to shop at walmart. I find they sell a lot of things that are cheaply made and that is why they are less expensive than other stores. I also find that there is certain merchandise that is the same price as anywhere else. Walmart is really not that much cheaper, really guys. It's just a marketing ploy, sure they charge 13.62 for something as opposed to 13.99. That is not that much cheaper and if you ask me not worth my time walking through a maze of people only to stand in a line up an hour long where my legs fall asleep and all the cashiers are really slow at checking you out. Besides, there are other stores that you can buy things at reasonable prices, its just that its not all under one roof. | |
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Posted: 4/20/2005 9:26:50 AM | Oh Communist China.
Well I thought that Liberals were against right-to-work laws, having more than one political party and having different press outlets cover news from different perspectives. Communist China meets this trifecta so it should be a paradise over there.... shouldn't it??? | |
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