| info on bipolar disorder
Posted: 8/11/2004 9:35:44 AM | Hey all sence so many seem to be going though this you can get ahold of me for any information you want on this disorder. I spent almost 10 years studing and living with it so if i can shine some light on the subject for you i shall.
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| info on bipolar disorder
Posted: 12/30/2004 11:08:21 AM | | Hey I have suffered from it for years so I know where you are coming from its tough and that is not a strong enough word for it there is not a word in our language that can describe how bad it is. | |
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| info on bipolar disorder
Posted: 12/30/2004 11:36:35 AM | | Im acutaly wondering if my girlfriend has it cause man it would explain alot what should I be looking for | |
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Posted: 12/30/2004 11:37:01 AM | | O and her sister has been diagnosed with it and has had it for years | |
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Posted: 12/30/2004 11:38:30 AM | My best friend is a Bipolar Manic depressive and I think that with the right meds and a good safty net of friends and family it can be overcome... She's not even on any meds right now because she's prego and she's doing fine... It's tough but there is light at the end of the tunnel...
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yna6
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Joined: 5/2/2004
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| info on bipolar disorder
Posted: 1/2/2005 8:55:43 AM | I dunno about this stuff...seems as if we catagorize something and stick a label on it it makes it seem ok. We can "treat it" type thing...or at least control it. How many people actually ARE bi-polar?? Probably a lot less than what have been "diagnosed" with it. A lot of this type of behaviour is actually a social cry for help, rasther than an actual disorder. Same with ADDs in kids. Usually a couple good swift kicks in the azz straightens them out and they modify their behaviour themselves into something socially acceptable. Forget the drugs, etc....."tough love" works much better and lessens their dependancy to blame anti-social behaviour on an "enhanced and over-acted" mental disability. Get rid of the excuses and force them to take the blame and responsibility for their actions, and there would be a lot less whining and crying about them being so hard done by.
On the other hand, there are some out there who DO need help...but again, far less than what has been "advertised" Ever notice how many folks on these sites claim to have kids who have ADDs, or they are bi-polar, or whatever? Wonder why they are alone? Cause people don't want to put up with their behaviour and have them claiming to be the "victim" of some menteal imbalance. Take charge of your life....be responsible for your actions, and you will find that you get along in this world a lot better.
Get rid of a lot of the politically correct BS in your life and you will be far happier too! | |
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Posted: 1/2/2005 12:37:34 PM | I have a friend who is Bipolar...No Question...!....ur "Solution" stoppin her meds and making her go thru tough love...wud see her dead in less that 48 hours....NO QUESTION....
So your smarmy smart a***d comments are dangerous....and spoken with no experience of the condition.....you think its all Politically Correct and namby pamby wishy washy bullsh*t....
You have never had to spend hours on the fone trying to keep them alive have you....No i guess not...you wud probably tell them to go ahead...do it kill urself see if I care...tough love works in the right situations...but Bi-Polr sufferers donte egenrally need to take any resposnibility for being depressed....its a condition they have little control over...much the same as you and your mouth...you seem to have little control over that..... | |
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yna6
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Joined: 5/2/2004
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Posted: 1/2/2005 9:44:26 PM | Mysticin...better reread the post again...I also said not ALL were over-exaggerating for attention. I have spent hours on the phone, and have lived with people who have bi-polar condition...people close to me. It isn't easy. BUT, I have also had the "drama-queen", or king types in my life too...but not for long. You get to see through these types and they soon avoid you for fear of you disclosing their little secrets to their circle of aquaintances. They give it up after growing up a little and maturing. Attention getters are the norm in this day and age...just open your eyes and see through them to get to the real person and their problems and you can find some good people out there...all they really need is a kick in the azz to motivate them, and they usually come out fine. Simply because someone cared enough to "love them tough". You may disagree with me and my methods, you have that right, but you don;t havew the right to tell me I'm "ill-informed", nor ignorant of the subject.
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Posted: 1/2/2005 10:00:26 PM | | I am always amazed by those who know someone who has profited by a certain treatment, and so they extrapolate from that that anyone with the same diagnosis should respond the same. We dont know the extent of their illness, and we dont know their strengths. Saying that someone with bi-polar just needs a kick in the a** is ridiculous. Think of the people with heart attacks - some are out dancing tongiht, and some are in the cemetary. Same diagnosis, probably same treatment, but different outcomes. | |
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Joined: 5/2/2004
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Posted: 1/4/2005 10:32:16 PM | I read that perscription drugs make up 21% of the stock market so a bit of cynism comes with each script I recieve. I was married to a bipolar depressive who had major back issues to boot. I never knew what I was going to wake up to or come home to. He threatened suicide so frequently I became desensitized to it but always had it in the back of my mind that someday he was going to make me a widow. After 4 back surgeries and testing different drugs that either made hims sleep or violently irritable and having kids it just wasn't a situation that I could stay in.
Even today I wonder if he wasn't faking part of it because it seemed he could control himself when other people were around | |
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Posted: 1/4/2005 11:04:55 PM | | I was married to an MD , certified manic depressive, with papers to boot. And since he was a Dr., it was even harder to treat him. Well now 5 wives and 20 yrs later, he is still being institutionalized! Such a tragedy, a genius, with a lot going for him....read up on this illness please, anyone, before becoming involved with people who suffer from this, it may ruin you life also....it's really a shame, but so true | |
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Posted: 1/10/2005 8:31:00 AM | yna6 you are ill informed on the topic..
And we arent talking about ADD here if you want to go there ill fight you to the death..
I have a father who is manic depressive and bi polar so i have battled the illness my whole life. I would have to say that one of the best ways to deal with (not get over you can never really get over it) but to cope with it is acceptance.. You have to accept that you have these emotions and feelings. Once you can accept that you are irrational at times, next time you are losing your mind or extremely depressed, if you take a step back and try to re-evaluate the situation at hand, you may be able to cope with it..
I don't suggest the meds that they are putting people on these days, yes it works for some, but i have also found that it just supresses most of ones emotions, and kills your creativity. I was on prozac for about 2 years and in that 2 yr. time period i was incapable of crying, and i also my photography suffered greatly.. | |
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yna6
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Joined: 5/2/2004
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Posted: 3/17/2005 9:53:45 AM | | I think people would be well served to spoat facts rather than platitudes based in unreality. Bipolar disorder affects 1 to 2% of the population. I myself have it and have had it for years. I do not whine about it nor do I claim to have it to seek attention. I have custody of two child and they are thriving with their Father. I take medication, if I did not take it I would be dead or in jail. Bipolar disorder is not a weakness of character nor something that can be loved away, it is an illness like heart disease or any other chronic condition. I find it interesting that people can accept that other organs and the body can fail and cause physiological problems yet have a hard time accepting that the brain sometimes works imperfectly and requires medical treatment. If you wish to know about bipolar disorder research it do not spew irrelevant opinions. Thats all I have to say. | |
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Posted: 3/17/2005 10:29:17 AM | I am manic depressive. It's something that I believe was passed on from my dad's side of the family. Most of them didn't get treatment and they are pretty disturbed people to say the least. I believe that diagnosis of this sort are over used. I understand where you are coming from, but I think it's VERY dangerous to talk about medical issues of a mental nature and suggest that people might not be diagnosed correctly. Bipolar patients deal with a lot of challenges, including family and friends who undermine treatment. Once bipolar patients have been on medication for a while and start to feel better their single largest vulnerability is the possibility that they will stop taking their medication.
The one thing I want to stress to everybody is that if you are manic depressive, or you doctor thinks you are, don't stop taking your medication just because you start feeling like you were misdiagnosed. I've done it. I've known people who nearly died from it. Get a second opinion. Get a third opinion. If you stop taking your meds, your chance of survival in the long term start to approach the single digit percentile. Is taking a couple of pills really such a big deal?
Manic depression can be treated but not cured. If it isn't treated because someone who legitimately has it stops their meds, their disease will pick up where it left off and it will become more virulent and the cycles of mania and depression more frequent. A lot of famous artists and extremely creative geniuses through the ages have died from this. I'd hate to know that someone died because they thought their willpower was enough to overcome it. | |
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Posted: 3/17/2005 10:40:06 AM | I had a doctor that had me on 5 different meds. I couldn't function... so I understand how bad medicine and the pharma industry can be. We definitely need reforms and updated guidelines for this sort of thing.
I didn't need that amount of medication that my doctor had me on. I gained 60 lbs in 2 months on it.. I couldn't feel anything. I looked horrible. I would fall asleep in the middle of a conversation with someone. I was 22 years old and taking heart medication to keep from having a heart attack from all the drug interactions.
I decided that living with it in a great deal of pain was better than having no feelings at all, looking horrible, not being able to function, and so on. I've come close to death several times, including after I stopped all that medication. Over time I realized that I needed at least a moderate amount of medication to keep my lows from being so low. I decided to take control. Today I take one prescription and I do ok.
I'm not proud of any of this. Normally I wouldn't even talk about it except someone might need to hear what I'm saying so they don't die. It's no fun taking a trip to the ER. I have some friends with it who won't get treatment. I don't think they'll be alive in another 10 years. | |
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Posted: 3/17/2005 2:29:31 PM | yna6 I agree with you 100% too many people
Today's society runs to the first pill to make them better, nobody knows how to tough things out. I was first diagnosed with mental illness at the age of twelve, ADHD, manic depressant, schizoid personaity disorder, and a few other minor problems. I was told that I should take medicine for the rest of my life. I haven't taken my meds since I was 18 yrs old, and no problems didn't go away, but I did learn to live with them.
Only the most severe cases should be medicated, which is those people that literally lose complete contact with reality. And I'm not talking about minor panics or paranoia, I mean that sh*tthat has a person halucinating or hearing voices.
Most people could learn to live with it, but its too easy to let some drug run your life. And with my unmedicated illness I have gained custody of my daughter after a two year custody battle and I have recieved a bachelors degree, simply because I got off my whinny ass and did it.
Because of my illness, I will probably be single for the rest of my life. But I would rather experiance the interesting ups and down and how they inspire me to write and to understand. | |
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Joined: 2/22/2005
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| ^^^ That Has to be....The Biggest Load of Bollox I have ever read in my life
Posted: 3/18/2005 7:54:43 AM | Seems like a recent rash of Bi-Polar threads, so I thought I'd look up some specific sites where the topic might get some more professional/educated input:
http://ehealthforum.com/health/bipolar_disorder.html
http://bipolar.about.com/mpboards.htm
http://www.psychforums.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=135
http://www.bipolaraware.co.uk/forum/index.php
http://www.msnusers.com/BipolarDisorderWebCommunity/welcome1%2Emsnw
Not that the input here is of no value, but you'd get a higher ratio of input at any of the others. Good luck. | |
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