| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/1/2007 7:02:43 PM | I have seen t.v shows in the past they claim that the house is haunted and they have audio of voices and unexplained noises etc.....
I am just wondering if anyone has actually seen a ghost or if anyone has been inside of one of the so called haunted houses....
I also read some storys online where doors and windows open and close and kitchen lights flash off and on.....Then a mysterious shadow appears...
I guess I just want to know if anyone thinks that the storys are true or are they just for fun?
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/1/2007 7:12:38 PM | I beleive in them 100%.
I'll tell you a little story....I'm sure some will call BS on it, but its the gods honest truth.
When I was about 19 I lived in a small shitty apartment next to an old woman named Archie. I would occasionally go over and play Sega with her and talk...she was just your normal old white trash southern woman. After about 3 months I stopped seeing Archie around for, I dunno, a week or so. No car, nothing. I didn't think much of it until I saw one of her freinds unpacking stuff from the apartment. She told me Archie had been found dead in her boyfriends front yard. Needless to say I confirmed this story, and found it very saddening. About 3 days later I started waking up every morning with odd scratches all over my chest and back. They looked for all the world like a cat drug its claws over my skin save for the fact that the scratches were too widely spaced for a cat. Many times I didn't notice these scratches until I got in the shower....at which point they turned bright red and were a bit painful. Eventually they became more than scratches and ventured into the realm of "cuts"....IE a bit of blood welled up in the center of each scratch. It was at this point that I moved out of the apartment. Haven't had anything like it happen since I moved out of that place 8 years ago. | |
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/1/2007 7:33:20 PM | Honestly, I didn't even stop to think about the whole ghost angle at the time. I ended up moving in with some friends due to the fact that my GF at the time and I were having some MAJOR issues and it would not have been mentally healthy for me to keep living alone.
In hindsight, yeah....its a REALLY weird coincidence. | |
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/1/2007 8:46:16 PM | | There is a program on tv here called hauntings and it has true storys of haunted houses and haunted people, all kinds of weird things. They showed scenes where people would actually have the spirits get inside them and throw them across the room or speak through them or even levitatte them...documented cases. | |
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Posted: 5/1/2007 8:50:38 PM | | There is alot of strange stuff out there. Not all of it can be explained by science, yet. It seems like the more science looks into this, the more they cant explain it away. | |
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/1/2007 9:03:08 PM | mind you parapsychologists have defined hauntings of 1 of 3 types. Possession is considered by some a 4th types, but really its kind of a fuzzy line so i wont mention it, but in passing
1. is a former human (as i like to say boo-ghost) running around their favorite places. typically 1 out of 12 are molevent. Boo-ghosts reflect people right now, some are bad, some are jerks, others just like to have fun.
2. Free floating entities. This is like a fog, that floats around, an energy fog. This fog moves intro an area and is fueled by emotions, violence, fear, sexual fustration, etc etc. Then what ever emotion is dominant in the area it feeds off of. Then eventually it becomes that type of energy leach. Ever walk on a civil war battle field or the scene of a violent murder. typically these types of free floating entities are relative harmless.
3. Poltergeist - these are the more interesting and better documented of the haunting types. Usually, they are created by little girls (not sure why girls over boys for this one) around the age of puberty. during the change from going from girl to woman their body changes in such a way their angst (especially if something tramatic happens to them) cause books to be throw, beds tossed around, etc etc.
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/2/2007 6:02:03 AM | I definitly believe in them, after I separated an brought my place I am living. I had poltergeist activity on the 1st night, an then I had a grey robed figure who just kept floating up my hallway until I done a soul retrival an sent it over the other side.  | |
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/2/2007 6:36:17 AM | I believe that ghosts and spirits and things of that nature exist.
I believe that people can see, feel, hear them.
I have seen and heard things that *may* have been such entities. Of course, it could also have been the effects of going home late at night after work and being completely exhausted.
There's no way to really know if something is really there, or if your mind is just playing tricks on you.
It's just like religion, it's a matter of faith and believing something is there, or believing it isn't. | |
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/2/2007 8:55:25 AM | "I guess I just want to know if anyone thinks that the storys are true or are they just for fun?"
fun of course. if you mean fun to mean....
people misinterpreting things.
or people trying to get attention by pretending .
the programs you have seen are staged. place a few suggestable young people in a creepy place, tell them a freaky back story about it, and film them looking freaked out. bits of dust or flying insects caught in the camera lights, a noise of some animal running around somewhere, being 'a bit cold suddenly', or cobwebs brushing their face, are not evidence of ghosts, they are evidence of mis interpretation. | |
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Posted: 5/2/2007 9:21:40 AM | ^^^^^^ If that were true, how do you explain away all the personal accounts?
Everyone is lying? I find that harder to believe than your explanation.
I have some friends that live in an older home (100+ yrs. old) and whenever they have any kind of argument, with raised voices, the cupboard doors start slamming open and closed, of their own accord. I was there once when they were horsing around, and she "yelled" at him, over the music, "Oh, pullleeeeezzze... gimme a break!" The cupboard doors did their thing, and we all started laughing ... and it stopped. There were about six of us in the room, and the two who didn't know about this were scared to begin with, and more than slightly shocked... but not one of us were "suggestable young people"... all over 40 yrs. old.
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/2/2007 10:49:56 AM | | OP, much like ET and UFO's, IMO there is too much evidence to show that these things actually occur - far more then to prove they do not. I have given my experiences and reasons to believe on here many times, some of them photographic - some of them audio. | |
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/2/2007 11:16:42 AM | | i totally believe. i always saw things when i was a child. i even had an old woman come and read me bedtime stories when i was small aswell. also my mum had a reading recently done by a friends mum and for a few days after weird things happened. like trinket trays lifted and banged down and the living room door was shut on my dad(its never been shut in 20 odd years). | |
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/2/2007 11:42:57 AM | | Matter can not be created or destroyed. It can only change form. If the soul exists within the body during life than it would still exist outside the body in death. It is only the perception that changes. | |
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Posted: 5/2/2007 5:30:34 PM | pearl13
"Everyone is lying?"
i never said that.
a few are, and most are mistaken is what i said. OP asked for any opinions, so i'm givin mine. i dont have any evidence of absence to declare to be honest. 
but i've read all the m r james stories, so i know all about ghosts. i whistle but they never come!
your account sounds great; but dont just say it, record and youtube it!!
some kind of hidden remote controlled solonoid should do the trick.  | |
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/2/2007 8:43:52 PM | hi- ghosts ( which are replay type entities ) and spirits ( self aware /interactive ) have existed since man first walked the earth - widely dismissed by "science " because they are too afraid to seriously investigate them as they have their reputations /large salaries to worry about - and much abused of late by cynical TV programs and others just out to make money /a name for them selves .
genuine hauntings in my experience are far and few between - most things classed as such have reasonable explanations - or can be classed as "motive " jobs - eg lets say somewhere is haunted to increase trade /visitor throughput
in all i would say that 90% of cases can be attributed to the above and other factors - however that leaves the 10% of genuine paranormal activity - which is what i deal with .
these things do exist - and some places do have activity - there seems to be a wide spread perception that all ghosts ( i will use the term in the generic sense here as there are many different classes of entity and ghosts are NOT the same as spirits ) are as portrayed in films and shoddy TV programs - anyone who seriously investigates the paranormal will tell you that most hauntings are much more subtle - and that REAL investigation is a painstaking - often prolonged job that cannot be completed in a few hours as portrayed in many TV programs - regardless of the level of technology employed 
longitudinal studies of haunted locations are rare - but do exist - and serious researchers in the UK are now making advances in many fields - agreed we will be poo pooed by the scientists and sceptics - but we have a simple answer to their cries of "prove it " and that is "prove what we are saying is wrong " - so far no scientist has stepped up to publicly take up the challenge - in fact with the discovery of quantum physics - many are now quietly aware that there is more to this than was first thought .
the sceptics have been claiming since at least 1900 that they would finally debunk /disprove the paranormal - well we are still waiting 107 years later 
i live in an active property - many odd things happen here - i also investigate other locations and have photographic evidence ( note i do not use the word proof ) of both poltergeist activity and other phenomena - so in answer to the question yes i do believe in the existence of ghosts and spirits - but only what i have personally witnessed /recorded all other - being "unverifiable " - unfortunately many places in the motive categories will not call in real investigators for fear of being exposed as frauds - and the proliferation of "play at it groups " has not helped matters by tarring all investigators with the same brush .( thus discouraging people with genuine concerns from calling in investigators )
should any of you have any questions about the subject and wish an honest opinion on
any thing - please feel free to contact me
best regards to all
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/2/2007 11:15:49 PM | actually, i would suspect that parapsychology is attempting to change the notion and scientifically look at the paranormal from a scientific way. I was looking at getting a parapsychology degree at Cambridge or Duke but decided it would take me too fdar away from my family.
Although most scientists laugh at the objectivity of boo-ghost hunting, they tend to forget Sir Arthur C. Clarke's 1st and 2nd law of technology:
When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is probably wrong.
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the only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible
incedently, i have recorded some interesting EVP. One was a little girl humming to herself, the 2nd clear is a female voice going woohoo!! At the time I was at the grave yard there was no little girl and no females in sight | |
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Posted: 5/3/2007 12:23:37 AM | "THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE IS NOT EVIDENCE OF ABSENCE!!! :D"
yeah yeah i know. in that case you'll believe in my 200 foot tall invisible pet giraffe and a billion other things there is absence of evidence for. you must have known where your argument led. blimey this is getting tedious, where are the rational people today. the patients seem to be running the hospital!  | |
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/3/2007 1:03:17 AM | ghosthunter56
"hi- ghosts ( which are replay type entities ) and spirits ( self aware /interactive ) have existed since man first walked the earth"
lets just deconstruct your first statement as from it hangs the rest of your attempt at reasoning. it didnt read furth by the way as i knew from the first line it wouldn't be cogent. its a ruthless shortcut i know, but if a person cant even start without an evidential or logical flaw.....
anyway, so when exactly did man walk the earth? in the continuous line of decent that is darwinian natural selection , there was NO FIRST HUMAN. if you dont understand the most fundamental aspect of biology then we can discount you as a man of reason, and if you do accept the fact we evolved then you have to explain a causal mechanism of natural selection to account for the evolution of souls, spirits disembodied entities, from a point of non existance to massive complexity required to exist, etc.. if they didnt evolve then what happened, were they floating around for 14 billion years waiting for evolution of man (which was highly improbable and wouldnt occur again if evolution was 'run' again). i know, critical thinking is boring but someone has to do it , yawn
yes i know you are probably inherantly dualist by nature (those that take an a priori view that the mind and body are seperate), but you can still use reason to dig yourself out of trap of logical, and evidential falacies and self deceit. | |
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Posted: 5/3/2007 4:52:49 PM | The house I grew up in and lived in for 19 years was haunted. It was built for my great-grandfather, only family lived in it, which is why I was never overly freaked out when things happened. Whether the activity was created by the spirits of relatives or some other entity, I like to call them 'Spooks', which a friend refered to them as after I told him some experiences from the house. Spooks because their harmless and the only things that took place seemed to be for the sake of just spooking the living inhabitants.
I've seen doors open and close when there were no windows open to cause a draft, seen and heard things fall over....often things in the basement which were heavy and unexplainable how it would fall on its own. Footsteps....I used to sleep on the couch when I was younger a lot of the time, and would hear footsteps walking from the basement to behind me, if I turned to see who was there, it would stop and repeat from the starting point, even when I didn't turn it would always just get close to me, and start over. I've seen shadows in the upstairs windows from outside when playing, when there was no one upstairs, had my stereo system turn off on its own, the old doorknob of my room start rattling like someone was shaking it and making a poor attempt to turn it, I automatically opened it and no one was in the hall....told it to 'F*ck off, cause I have school in the morning and need to sleep' ....it didn't happen again. Sometimes with a plastic bag on my floor while trying to sleep, it would sound like someone crumpling it up....just very annoying.
In my last year living there my alarm clock would turn itself off....so I'd wake up late, sure at first I thought I was probably reaching over and hitting the switch while half asleep, thats why I moved it and put it on my bureau, the only way I could turn it off then would be to completely get out of bed and take a few steps....and I'd double and triple check in the nights to make sure it was on the alarm setting....sure enough, wake up an hour late...check the alarm and the switch would be on off....and I slept with my door closed, no one would get in the room without me waking. I had to start telling myself repeatedly before falling asleep what time I had to be up and rely on my internal clock...because I knew I couldn't gaurentee the alarm going off in the morning.
My brothers all also experienced footsteps, doors opening and closing, voices, and one even heard voices calling his name. We all had the same occurances happen. When my great aunt had lived in the house she would keep her bedroom door closed...she told me one day when she went in, there was a black cat sitting on the window ledge....on the inside of the room....they had no cat, the window was shut and the room on the second floor. Before I was born my dad seen the ghost of his mother at the end of his bed, and also heard footsteps one night, thought my brothers might be out of bed so got up....he seen three shadows walking up the stairs....checked the boys rooms, they were all asleep, and very young at the time, one too young to walk up and down the stairs.
I always felt something was in that house, would feel like I was being watched. I asked my mother if she ever experienced anything...I didn't get a yes or a no...so it sounds like theres something she's not talking about. I've also seen whats called 'ectoplasm' at a local graveyard....I thought there was a bit of fog creeping up the hill and the glowing was caused by a car driving by....until I looked down the road, there were no vehicles, and you could see a good distance down this road. We visited the graveyard enough to know what graves had lights on them too, so always noticed lights we knew shouldn't have been there(small town, what are teenage girls to do other than hanging out at the graveyard?), we also heard weird noises there as well.
When I moved, I knew the first night there was nothing here, the atmosphere was just so different from the house I grew up in, it was calm and just 'clean'. No fears of seeing things or hearing things that shouldn't be there.
I'm sure I could think of more expereinces....but I think I've wrote enough already. | |
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| Do you believe in ghosts/Haunted houses?
Posted: 5/3/2007 6:18:29 PM |
I ended up moving in with some friends due to the fact that my GF at the time and I were having some MAJOR issues...
maybe it's because you had...
scratches all over my chest and back
...and they weren't from her | |
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