| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 2:20:50 PM | | The reason i write this message is because it astounds me why, in 2007 men still see that acting like dogs is something to be proud of and something to be discussed as a status thing. A recent experience has led me into a rather disadvantaged situation and in all honesty i quite unwittingly entered into it only to find out later that it was a stunt that was played by the guys! I got labelled and he got a pat on the back!! Why do men accuse women of 'putting it on a plate' when its them that have put it on a plate and told lies and cheated to get what they want!! This really frustrates me. If you guys are going to post really sexist, unintelligent responses then don't bother! I've had enough of them to last me a life time! | |
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Jemue
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Joined: 1/26/2005
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 2:33:29 PM | | Hi, no its not a case of all men are the same! I didn't say that. I was talking about a specific experience and reiterating what was said to me BY A GUY. I don't believe that all guys are the same! I know that they are not! I just want to know why men do get a pat on the back and girls get labelled. That is fact! not opinion! | |
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Jordaw
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Joined: 10/15/2006
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 2:47:47 PM | | Well you say that you don't tell you friends anything! Thats good! But this is what i got told. I told that it had nothing to do with anyone else! The comments about women tend to do that kind of thing more and more, yes i agree they do! Women have become very keen and very good game players! They can certainly give some guys a run for their money. But just like my other message said, i don't think all guys are the same and i don't think its fair that all girl's are the same either! Thanks for your posts by the way. its great that i'm getting responses from guys, its gives me a real picture! So Thanks and keep em coming x | |
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 2:47:49 PM | I think I have had enough of this #%#%$@#%. Here we go again with the male bashing. Loveableangel01...there are just as many women that do the very same thing that you mention in your post. I am going to contact whomever it takes to get these bashing posts eliminated. What happened to the, "Try and meet your mate", purpose of this site?
I have and I am sure, that there are quite a number of males that have been played, told lies to, and cheated to get what they want.
Enough is enough. | |
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Jemue
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Joined: 1/26/2005
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 2:52:46 PM |
these days women are worse for that kind of thing.
Yup, all my guy friends don't really care. They are quite happy to meet someone like that, obviously.
It's the girl's female friends that come out with all the scorn and name calling.
Probably because actually doing it disarms the girls that try to use it as a weapon so they have to try and stop all other girls being relaxed about it.
No wonder I like confident women and not name calling girls ! | |
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 2:56:21 PM | | I think it comes from a long history of trying to control womens sexuality and body. Women are life givers, a very powerfull thing, a thing that in the beginning men did not understand. What do some men do when they don,t understand something? They try to control or destroy it. Hence menstral huts, clitorectomys, anti abortion activists, and shaming...probably the most powerfull tool in the box. But there has also allways been inteligent men who were not afraid of women but saw them as a different ,but equal partner in life. | |
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 2:57:09 PM | Despite the fashionable propaganda, for those with a long view, it truly is a man's world. Any woman has more options than any guy, but guys who know the score get the advantage of acting like a woman but without all the social consequences.
Did you get talked into stripping? Having a threesome? Details, details.... | |
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 2:58:13 PM | | No offense but to whom put the original post up dont you think calling men DOGS is kinda ummmmmm labelling them? And I would certainly have to disagree I think people in general put labels on people not because its gender biased but because when they are hurt or disappointed by the actions of someone its just so easy to do...men get called dogs, pigs, players whatever and women get called tramps and all kinds of colourful names i choose not to say. I think before you go and generalize you should probably look at the picture in whole and if you are speaking from experience maybe if you are that angry you should go and talk to the person who made you so mad thats my opinion on the matter. | |
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 3:05:55 PM | Hi there, yes you are quite right i have labelled guys as dogs! and yes i know that that is wrong. Anger and hurt has caused me to do that!!
Also, as expected we have the male pride posting! This is certainly not a male bashing posting by any means. I was simply posting a request for explanation and opinino. I am by no means a male basher but your response certainly tells me how males oppose criticism! Much like the male pride being negated!! I have not posted a message to get into a sexist discussion about male -v- female! so please refrain from taking it into that direction! I have merely asked for honest opinions not small minded negative comments! Thanks you to everyone else!! | |
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 3:25:14 PM | Jemue....I knew there was a reason I liked you! . You actually like confident women....and are typically logical on your posts. These 'bashing' posts suck all the fun out of the forums. The hostility and name calling muddies the water so.... it's hard to follow the thread. I agree w/points made except..."it disarms the girls that try to use it as a weapon, not wanting other girls to be relaxed about it"...there is a ring of truth to everything on occasion, but the OP has a bit of credibility...society still has double standards for men and women...especially about sex. Here in the south, there is an unspoken ettiquette rule...for everything....unfortunately the Bubbas still rule. Having said that, I agree, the majority of men see women equally...w/the same rules. Men are changing(I'm speaking of the masses)....perhaps slower than we would like, but that is the nature of change. Op...perhaps you should sort through this experience again. Relationships are still a process...and the timing to include sex is different in each one. Last I heard tho...it still takes 2 to tango. How well did you know this guy? What kind of relationship had you established? And as other have said...could it be the 'type' of guy that you choose?
You're right Jemue....women do tend to be more vocal about sex than we have been.
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 3:34:12 PM | Let me point out two lines here:
Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
men still see that acting like dogs is something to be proud of
If, indeed, men are dogs for acting a certain way--Then why should you resent being labled for the same thing? That is called hypocricy, my dear. If we're dogs for doing it and YOU aren't, then what IS the standard? Or STANDARDS should I say, as you clearly have a differant one for each sex. | |
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 3:36:02 PM | Hi STeelemagnolia,
Thanks, your post is good and unbiased.
The guy i have know for about five years. Yes he was sweet, appeared genuine and i trusted him.
I will reiterate that this is not a male bashing question. It was merely a question about an experience and the response i got from another guy said to me that girls cannot sleep with guys without getting labelled!
I get a sense from your post that you are in the U.S! is that right? You talk about down south and bubbas, and i'm not quite sure what that means.
However, there does remain double standards for men and women. I believe in giving every person a chance and to 'judge' for want of a better of word, everybody on their own merits. I was just really hurt and discouraged at the behaviour of a group of guys and teh comments that i received afterwards.
Thanks for your comment. | |
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 3:43:11 PM | Hi Starvatist,
Please refer to original posting. This is not my wording. I was telling of what a guy had said to me. Its ok for guys but not ok for girls. I do not hipocritise, i committed an act and the guy committed an act. The difference is the name calling and grief i got for it was very different. I was actually told by a guy that they get a pat on the back and girl's get labelled so i'm sorry but its not my wording.
once again i will emphasise, this is not a guy bashing thread!! Its merely a request for opinion!! I don't believe all guys are the same and i don't believe all women are the saem either!! I'm just trying to understand the concept. I believe that what men do and women do are equal! | |
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 3:43:27 PM | I think one reason, when it involves sex outside of a serious committed relationship, is the attitude/thought process that the two sexes tend to have.
Men are smarter in this area; they know that it means nothing beyond physical pleasure and so, because they are honest and clear about what it is, they are less likely to suffer criticism.
Women are not so smart in this area. They think it will keep a man around. They think it means there is a "relationship" or that the relationship has moved to the next level. But because, in the back of their minds they are at least a little insecure, they try to act like the man and treat it as if it were only casual fun (just in case that's what he's thinking), yet still hoping that it was actually more. Thus, they are more often criticized because they aren't honest about it with themselves or their partners.
Because of our natural chemical and physiological makeup, casual sex (maybe sex in general) will NEVER be the same for women as it is for men. No matter how much we move toward equality, we will never be totally there. For that reason, if for no other, women are still best leaving sex to more serious relationships. Then again, as long as the men are treating it casually, there must be women out there who are allowing them to! | |
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 3:52:42 PM | I will reiterate again what I posted the last time this type of post happened:
Men having lots of sex with many partners: What a stud! Way to go, bro!
Women having lots of sex with many partners: What a slut!!!!!
That's just the way it has always been and I do not think it will ever change. I fail to get it, but oh well, right? | |
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Jemue
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Joined: 1/26/2005
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 4:13:43 PM | Jemue....I knew there was a reason I liked you! . You actually like confident women....and are typically logical on your posts. These 'bashing' posts suck all the fun out of the forums. The hostility and name calling muddies the water so....
Cheers my dear :)
I do so love confident women (and men, no not like that ....) that don't feel the need to judge others, confident in their own choices ......... about respect for yourself and others I suppose.
I will reiterate again what I posted the last time this type of post happened:
Men having lots of sex with many partners: What a stud! Way to go, bro!
Women having lots of sex with many partners: What a slut!!!!!
That's just the way it has always been and I do not think it will ever change. I fail to get it, but oh well, right?
Point and case of women doing the name calling and keeping this alive .... very sad to read.
If that's what you accept as reality, guess what, that's what you will get. Even though you say you are against it, you support it by trying to believe that.
Personally I don't believe it and I'm a guy who has female and male friends who are promiscuous (as am I when the urge takes me).
I don't harbour any ill feelings against myself for it, therefore I don't attack others for it.
Ironically enough I've been with a fair few girls that really like being called a slut during the act, though probally only dislike it afterwards .......... hmmmm though thats probally another story and something for Freud. ;) | |
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 7:31:48 PM |
Point and case of women doing the name calling and keeping this alive .... very sad to read. If that's what you accept as reality, guess what, that's what you will get.
It's not what I get, but it IS what I see and have seen over and over. A shame, really. There is not a damn thing wrong with a randy roll in the hay for either sex and I fail to get it, like I said. I am from the "love the one you're with" generation, so in my view, it's ALL good. | |
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| Why do men get a pat on the back but women get labelled?
Posted: 5/3/2007 11:21:13 PM | AHhhh..........Times ..They are a Changing.
Not just the girls that get taken for a ride.
If we were to generalize... ...some ladies are famous for taking the poor helpless GUY for a ride. ..Then laff about it with there friends.
It's old as time ..(tell me if you've heard this).
Buy me a drink saylor??
When the drinks stop.........so does the luvin.!
Replace drinks ...with money .
Some Not so good lookin fellas....get hosed by some woman
who's only intent is the free ride.
Sorry O/P for your bad experiances.
With age........you'll see the signs and be able to steer clear.
Now.... get out there and raise hell.
A bashful batchlor. | |
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