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 JessKO

Joined: 1/18/2005
Msg: 1
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Posted: 5/5/2007 5:11:41 PM
Does it count if there is a face area but is seriously blurry, really small, and or has sunglasses which make it near to impossible to recognize someone?

Should these people be reported to?

Or not.


Cause to me some blurry pics are as usless as a 20 year old pic or a pic of a celebrity.
 DonInVictoria

Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 2
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Posted: 5/5/2007 5:23:19 PM
If you figure their own family would be unable to recognize them, then their headshot is not good enough, imo (and, that's the basis I use for rejecting pics, in the rate any/new pics section).

As for reporting their pic on their profile, if you encounter it, it bothers you, and you honestly feel it's an unrecognizeable headshot, I'm pretty sure you're encouraged to report it.

Does it count if there is a face area but is seriously blurry, really small, and or has sunglasses which make it near to impossible to recognize someone?

Should these people be reported to?

Or not.
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
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Posted: 5/5/2007 6:11:27 PM
If the Person is not identifiable, recognizable, "Could be any half a dozen People ...", even if the Person is standing too far away from the Camera, or anything that obstructs a clear View of the Face, such as deeply tinted or very reflective Glasses, closed Eyes, Hair, Hats, Hands, etc.

As a Main Image, a Profile Shot where both Eyes are not visible is not acceptable, and the Angle of the Head should be such that they can be clearly seen.

Images: Rating & Rejecting Images


See Also:Profile Pics: Reporting Image As Not Human
Profile Pics: Unacceptable Profile Pics
Profile Pics: Admin's Manual Review
Profile Pics: Super close Ups
Profile Pics: Incl. of You, excl. of Copyright
Profile Pics: Posting Orginal Artwork
Profile Pics: Unacceptable Profile Images
Profile Pics: As Drawings
 DonInVictoria

Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 4
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Posted: 5/5/2007 7:33:56 PM

As a Main Picture, a Profile Shot where both Eyes are not visible is not acceptable, and the Angle of the Head should be such that they can be seen.

On the screen for reporting Profile images (emphasis added):


Reporting users just because you don't like them or have silly disputes with them will result in your account being deleted.

Only Report this profile if the image below doesn't contain the users face

The headshot should be current, a picture of the user 20 years ago is NOT a valid main picture

And on our IMAGES upload page:

ALL pictures MUST contain you in it with a visible head shot at minimum

A large fraction (1/4?) of the current main images, which are otherwise clear, recent and well taken, could be classed as not having both eyes visible.

As near as I understand it, there is no penalty for failing to report photos, as that's entirely at our own discretion.
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
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Posted: 5/5/2007 7:58:50 PM
A large fraction (1/4?) of the current main images, which are otherwise clear, recent and well taken, could be classed as not having both eyes visible.

We have at least that in deeply tinted or very reflective Glasses, closed Eyes, Hair, Hats, Hands, etc.

While we can hagle Technicalities, its come to that where we see Profile Shots off the Side Back of the Head, showing 3/4 hair, 1/4 cheek, claiming the cheek is part of the Face.

How much Face then?

Maybe the 'full' Mouth and Cheekbones may not show on very slim and curved Faces, but both Eyes show enough of the Face to recognize someone. Cheeks on most people are nearly symetrical, hence I see little Point to require both of them.

A 'Profile Shot' showing only 1 Eye will likely render the Person unrecognizable compared to when seen from the front Head on. (Some will try to buy themselves 2 Lives here at POF in this Manner, ... some ... more than 1 Profile)

Reporting users just because you don't like them or have silly disputes with them will result in your account being deleted.

Reporting is in part Subjective, but someone who habitually votes to have perfectly good Images deleted will have their voting Powers removed. Those who only vote to
have valid Pics removed, esp. arising out of Spite or Mischieviousness, can have their Account terminated.
 DonInVictoria

Joined: 12/24/2006
Msg: 6
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Posted: 5/5/2007 8:08:54 PM
As we risk account deletion if our report is ever misinterpreted, can we have this capability to report Profiles permanently disabled?

Reporting is in part Subjective, but someone who habitually votes to have perfectly good Images deleted will have their voting Powers removed. Those who only vote to have valid Pics removed, esp. arising out of Spite or Mischieviousness, can have their Account terminated.
 theadra

Joined: 5/8/2006
Msg: 7
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Posted: 5/5/2007 8:25:08 PM
I don’t understand why, if profiles without photos are allowed, a photo wherein one is unrecognizable is reason for deletion. Isn’t any photo better than none at all? I think everyone should be required to post a clear “head shot”.
 trappedonbayst

Joined: 1/3/2005
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Posted: 5/5/2007 8:49:47 PM
don’t understand why, if profiles without photos are allowed, a photo wherein one is unrecognizable is reason for deletion


Privacy is one thing - being deceptive, misleading, obscene or fradulent is another - simple as that!

Thread subject addressed - there are ample threads on the subject , see --> Thread Search Instructions

 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 9
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Posted: 5/5/2007 9:00:17 PM
As we risk account deletion if our report is ever misinterpreted, can we have this capability to report Profiles permanently disabled?

Why?

Can you see 2 Eyes or not? If not, vote to Delete.

There is no Mis-interpretation in respect to:

... someone who habitually votes to have perfectly good Images deleted will have their voting Powers removed. Those who only vote to have valid Pics removed, esp. arising out of Spite or Mischieviousness, can have their Account terminated.

Its assumed you'll get it "Right" at least some of the Time, meaning you'll also come from Time to Time across and vote to have Doggies, Flowers, Nudies and Blurry Shots removed. The entire Point is sufficient Recognition of People, to prevent Abuse, so this Site can do what it was intended to do ... to connect People together.


Admin: I nuke everything that isn't a headshot.
 Love_on_fire

Joined: 12/31/2006
Msg: 10
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Posted: 5/6/2007 2:15:39 PM
OP....Don't worry about it. Get to know a person and as long as they have a photo up of themselves, no matter how blurry or the age of it ect, as long as it's them , thats fine with me. i don't worry about it.
 jim9660

Joined: 12/10/2006
Msg: 11
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Posted: 5/6/2007 6:58:00 PM
Why bother reporting it? I reported a picture someone used as their only picture, but was of the Mona Lisa and another that used a picture of a sign. They are still here.
 grneyesnca

Joined: 8/18/2004
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Posted: 6/10/2007 6:52:33 AM
I agree with Jim big time. I see people out there who have pictures that are like 50 feet away and look like a stick who don't have their's deleted. Is that a head shot I think not! And I've seen people who have dark sunglasses on as well can't tell me they have been deleted as well cause they are still there. I've had my pictures deleted cause of a funny face being made. But yet it was a head shot plain as day. Or how about these people who show half the side of there face they are still there. Like to know what's the deal. Can't tell me everyone is treated the same cause it's just not happening.
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
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Posted: 6/10/2007 11:57:40 AM
I agree with Jim big time. I see people out there who have pictures that are like 50 feet away and look like a stick who don't have their's deleted. Is that a head shot I think not! And I've seen people who have dark sunglasses on as well can't tell me they have been deleted as well cause they are still there.

Just because the Admin has fallen a little behind and you feel no Action is being taken, many will ultimately end up losing their Pic Upload Privileges.

If you post such Images because others are doing it, then that may become your Lot also.
 FROM ADMIN

Joined: 3/13/2007
Msg: 14
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Posted: 6/10/2007 12:32:49 PM
i agree jim its a complete waste of time reporting people...........as members and not administrators its not our responsibility
 grneyesnca

Joined: 8/18/2004
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Posted: 6/11/2007 3:08:00 AM
No what I'm saying I've had my pic deleted twice even though it was a pic plain as day. But cause a funny face was being made it got deleted. So what were not allowed to make funny faces. Might as well just stand straight as if we were in jail and get a mug shot taken.
 RalGash

Joined: 2/7/2006
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Posted: 6/17/2007 2:54:31 PM
I think this feature needs some serious work!

I have an ex on here that is a jerk, and I just know it has to be him reporting my pics!

My main picture had my bangs partially obstructing my eyes and it got deleted! Not only that it said that that is my ONLY WARNING for not posting a picture of my face!

It was a whole headshot, you could see my face and it got deleted because supposedly you can't see my face?! The pic I'm using now has my bangs touching one of my eyes and I am wearing red contacts, is that grounds for me getting banned now for not having a pic showing my face?!!!

I think this needs to be looked at more seriously and more fairly. I can understand having issues with someone posting a dog as thier main pic or a monkey, but my own face gets deleted?!!!

There's still a crapload of profiles with pictures of not the users face, I guess I better do the bitter thing and click them all for you seeing as this can't be dealt with more politely.

I also know of a few people that feel very insulted because they have had thier pics deleted. I guess every person wearing sunglasses better look out too!

Maybe while were at it we should report all the users that have pictures of children in the profiles usually in thier main pics! Doing that on a dating site is just CREEPY. Seriously, why do you want strangers looking at your kids? Think about this, to me you look irresponsible as well!
 RalGash

Joined: 2/7/2006
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Posted: 6/17/2007 8:58:26 PM

UPLOADING NUDITY WILL GET YOUR ACCOUNT DELETED
You can upload up to 8 images, you may keep these images hidden from other members by selecting not to display them on your profile.
Make sure the image isn't too big or it won't upload.
Cartoons, celebrity, Torso and Joke pictures are not allowed.
Make sure the image is in JPG, BMP or GIF format.
You can share these private pictures with other members when sending them a message.


I don't see anything there that can help me understand why my picture, OF MY FACE was deleted.

This is the nastey mail I was sent, it actually really upset me.


We are sorry but your image(s) have been deleted. The rules clearly state that your main picture MUST have your face in it. Please ensure that all images submitted follow the plentyoffish guidelines. ie. Your head must be in the picture, no indecent images, no profanity, no copyrighted images, no celebrities, no landscapes or jokes. This is an automated message, and your only warning. If you continue to upload images that do not follow the rules your uploading abilities will be disabled


If it's at all possible can I please meet someone officially from the site to prove that I am who I say that I am? Or perhaps give me some kind of procedure to follow before me, an innocent person get in further trouble for uploading pictures of MY FACE?
 Bran247

Joined: 5/12/2006
Msg: 18
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Posted: 6/17/2007 11:01:00 PM
I just spent about an hour looking at forums and found 2 profiles that didn't have their face visible or the dog was the lead photo. I reported them. I went and reviewed new images and ran across lots of women that wanted to have their kids on here with them or alone (veto'd the children alone pics!). I let their doggies slide because it is stated in other fourms that they can have their pet as long as it's the 4 or 5th pic. I know this because I scanned the fourms for a month trying to see why I can no longer upload pics. One of the problems is there isn't much rejection criteria at the point of reviewing images. It is just broken down to a few different catagories...for instance I didn't see one about the people that put their feet, shoulder or leg just to display a tattoo as a thumbs up or down. I ran across at least 4 of that scenerio.
 RalGash

Joined: 2/7/2006
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Posted: 6/18/2007 12:52:10 AM
I think what happens is that they don't really look at the picture, they just trust everyone that hits the button and then it auto deletes the persons picture and then sends you an automated message.

I don't think there really is someone policing the photos, thier letting the users do it for them and taking it as gospel that people hitting that button are telling the truth.

I've seen alot of photos where you can't see half of thier face becaus of the huge ass dark sunglasses they are wearing, can't even see thier eyes.

My bangs partially obscuring my eyes however got my pic auto deleted, coincidently after my boyfriend and I break up. My pic was there for several months!

I think basically what that means is that you can go to any profile, click the pic and it automatically deletes without admin actually looking at it to see if anything is actually wrong with it.
 crtygirl

Joined: 9/12/2006
Msg: 20
Headshots - Recognition & Reporting
Posted: 6/18/2007 11:36:53 AM
Hi there
I have been on this site for a while and enjoy both the forums and meeting other couples...I have a problem though my boyfriends picture has been deleted twice now first with the red truck and now with the black truck They are both of HIM with HIS truck now if that was the only picture I could understand but it is not>> He clearly has a headshot of himself and I am wondering WHY this is happening.. His handle is cwby24.
Thanks crtygirl
 the_humormonger

Joined: 5/30/2006
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Posted: 6/18/2007 1:35:06 PM
the problem here is one of reading comprehension. ticket laid it all out very clearly in msg 3:

If the Person is not identifiable, recoqnizable, "Could be any half a dozen people ...", even if the Person is standing too far away from the Camera, or anything that obstructs a clear View of the Face, such as deeply tinted or very reflective Glasses, closed Eyes, Hair, Hats, Hands, etc.

As a Main Picture, a Profile Shot where both Eyes are not visible is not acceptable, and the Angle of the Head should be such that they can be seen.


so, ralgash, one must assume that your bangs covered too much. i do believe admin views all reported photos himself...they're not just auto-deleted. here's what he said
in msg 49 of this thread
Reporting Image As Not Human
http://forums.plentyoffish.com/7027436datingPostpage2.aspx

If I have to manually review it because it got reported I nuke everything that isn't a headshot. Thats what happens when you try and get around the rules.


crtygirl - you're not supposed to name other users. but, in that pic with the black truck, your boyfriend is totally unrecognizable. the top of my arrow cursor covers his face. thus, it wouldn't fly as a main pic. why?

From the image upload page:

UPLOADING NUDITY WILL GET YOUR ACCOUNT DELETED

Cartoons, celebrity and Joke pictures are not allowed.

ALL pictures MUST contain you in it with a visible head shot at minimum

and that, bran, is the basis of the rejection criteria for reporting a main image as not being a face shot. it's the same for rating photos that are newly uploaded. as you can't tell if it's a main image, or not, all new photos have to comply. the feet and tattoos may be images that were posted before the parameters were so stringently stated.
 RalGash

Joined: 2/7/2006
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Posted: 6/18/2007 1:39:53 PM
crtygirl

I took a quick look at his profile and if it's the one that he has in there now of him with his truck, not as his main pic; I can see why it would get deleted. He is very far away and unrecognisable in the picture.

The main pic you guys are using now is perfect, can see both of your faces just fine.
 the_humormonger

Joined: 5/30/2006
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Posted: 6/24/2007 5:44:54 PM
If the Person is not identifiable, recoqnizable, "Could be any half a dozen people ...", even if the Person is standing too far away from the Camera, or anything that obstructs a clear View of the Face, such as deeply tinted or very reflective Glasses, closed Eyes, Hair, Hats, Hands, etc.

As a Main Picture, a Profile Shot where both Eyes are not visible is not acceptable, and the Angle of the Head should be such that they can be seen.

anything?? like a camera???

on the mail settings not working thread (http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts7083584.aspx)
ticket said:

It has not yet been enforced via the Upload Page, but Moderators will revoke Image upload Priviledges if your main Pic renders you not recognizable.

is this something new? you mods have always said you don't deal with profiles, that they are admin's baby...is this a recent change?
 Ticketoride

Joined: 6/3/2004
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Posted: 6/24/2007 6:00:24 PM
you mods have always said you don't deal with profiles, that they are admin's baby...is this a recent change?



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 Thee 1st Pooh

Joined: 6/19/2007
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Posted: 6/25/2007 10:46:25 AM
I believe these should be rejected.
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