| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 5/9/2007 1:38:43 PM | Im not sure what has been said on this forum about the kidnapping of the 3yr old girl in Portugal. If you're not aware of whats happened then a quick google of her name will reveal all.
Firstly, this unfortunate and troubling event reminds of why I dont enjoy watching the news. Some very sick (born, bred or ill) people out there. "Ignorance is bliss" could apply somewhat.
Secondly, and the main reason for this post. I was completely incensed to see media coverage of the police, who were supposed to be spot checking vehicles leaving the area from which the child went missing, sat in their cars because it had started raining.
Now, in many other jobs, I can appreciate why they'd shelter from the rain, Ive done it myself. Yes, their job may be tougher in the rain. So what. As policemen, and given the nature of the crime and the need for prompt, potentially crucial action, I couldnt believe what I was seeing. Not one because they're policeman, BUT because they're human beings, apparently there to protect and serve.
Sitting in the their cars because of mild rain (its not exactly freezing in he Algarve currently!) is disgraceful and as a collective and individuals, all of them , based on this one important issue are almost as sick as the kidnapper.
Been wanting to get that out of my system, hope others agree. Would like to hear why if not. Thanks for reading/commenting. | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 5/9/2007 5:34:48 PM | | How about telling the story and not asking people to go google the name to find out what your talking about.... | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 5/9/2007 6:29:03 PM | Wow. Ummm. Ok.
I was going to paste a link to to a BBC news report, then I considered pasting the whole report. Unfortunately though, I am unaware of the copyright implications or the rules of this forum. Apologies, I figured the time it takes someone to google is almost insignificant, you know, it probably takes less time than your reply, infact, it definately does.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/10/wmaddy10.xml
Madeleine hunt 'will have to be cut back'
Richard Edwards and Fiona Govan in Praia da Luz
Last Updated: 2:11am BST 10/05/2007
Muddle and failure in hunt for Madeleine
'What about our missing children?'
The search for Madeleine McCann, the three-year-old who was abducted a week ago, will have to be reduced within days, police sources said last night.
Kate and Gerry McCann say they 'continue to remain positive'
The Portuguese authorities will be forced to make the cut despite criticism that their investigation is floundering.
There are 180 senior detectives on the case. Their numbers will have to be "radically" slashed.
It is also likely that a significant proportion of the 800 beat officers will have to be reassigned.
Graham Hill, who solved the 30-year-old mystery of a teenage abduction and worked on the case of the missing schoolgirl Milly Dowler, has flown to help detectives.
Dozens of questions passed to police by Madeleine's parents have gone unanswered.
Detectives maintain they have to keep the family "afar" from the investigation.
Gerry and Kate McCann issued a statement last night in which they said: "We continue to remain positive."
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 6/6/2007 3:53:48 PM | | copy my pics the close up of the eye makes her a very noticeable little girl .spred the word as much as you can................ | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 6/15/2007 3:56:03 PM | I have been on the forum of the mirror
www.mirror.co.uk
There is a lot of 'b!tching' surrounding the parents are actually involved with her dissapearance.
More so on the fact they left their 3 young children alone.
There are a whole load of rumours flying around, and while I agree without a shadow of a doubt the parents were wrong, foolish and extremely irresponsible for leaving them alone for the sake of a meal, lets all just hope little Maddie is returned safe and well very soon. After all, thats the only inportant thing.
Worry about the 'whodunnit' after her safe return.
Keep safe little Maddie, my thoughts, hopes and prayers are with you little angel. | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 7/17/2007 10:37:39 AM | I have to say that I think about this poor little girl everyday and I pray that she is alive and okay but I truly don't think she should ever be returned to her parents and I can't understand why the other two get to stay with the parents.
I believe they are going through their own private hell but it is a situation that they have created. I would like to know how the law is written over there and find out why these parents haven't been charged. I am sure they must have something written about endangering the life of a child.
Feel bad for them if you want but the facts are: 1) they are well educated people 2) the resort had included babysitting and even if it wasn't free, they had enough money to pay 3) It was unnecessary with no excuse
I also feel that someone had to be watching for the right opportunity, a news report early in the abduction stated this was not the first night the parents had gone out for supper and left the children alone(I won't put all my faith in media reports but...) I find it hard to believe that if they were home every night with their children that the abductor would happen to pick the one night they are out to take Madeleine.
Again, my opinion only. My sympathy is with Madeleine and the other two children who had their sister taken from them Not the parents. | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 7/24/2007 9:52:01 AM | This is such a heartbreaking case and one I feel that could easily have been avoided. The parents not even locking the door when they went to the bar? The long wait before police arrived?
In any case there have been many supposed sitings of little Maddie and I pray she is alive. A truly beautiful child. Here's her website:
http://findmaddie.com/ | |
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| Sketch Released
Posted: 8/3/2007 12:33:25 AM | Police Probe New Madeleine Sighting
Updated: 06:50, Friday August 03, 2007
Police in Belgium are investigating a possible sighting of Madeleine McCann and have released an identikit drawing of a man she may have been seen with.
Man was seen in restaurant with girl looking like MadeleineA woman told detectives she saw an English-speaking woman with a Dutch man and young girl at a restaurant in the Belgian town of Tongeren, near Maastricht.
The witness, a children's therapist, telephoned police but when she returned to her table the three had disappeared.
A Tongeren police spokesman said they were treating the sighting "very seriously".
They have taken a soft drink bottle the girl had been drinking from for analysis.
A spokesman said: "The woman told us the little girl bore a striking resemblance to Madeleine McCann and was behaving nervously.
"She said she got up to call us as soon as she saw the girl, but when she returned to her table all three of them got into a car and left.
"The woman is a credible witness and we are taking the sighting very seriously."
It is the second reported sighting of Madeleine in Belgium since the four-year-old was snatched from her hotel room in the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz three months ago.
A Belgian couple told police they saw the youngster outside the Cathedral in Liege on June 1.
Meanwhile, Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann are visiting Huelva in Spain, close to the Portuguese border.
The McCanns are travelling to Spain to distribute posters of their missing daughter and to pray for her safe return at the cathedral in Huelva.
Mrs McCann said: "Gerry and I want to remind people that our lovely little girl, Madeleine, is still missing."
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1278405,00.html
The man's pic can be viewed at the above link. God I hope it's her and she is returned home. | |
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| Sketch Released
Posted: 8/3/2007 3:36:08 PM | | I suppose you can never know what you would do in this situation but I would like to think that if I thought I had spotted Madeleine McCann I would grab her, hold on tight and yell for help. In one way I find it worse to think that it may have been her. So close to being reunited with her family and there may not be another chance. | |
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| I agree with you lass
Posted: 8/4/2007 4:13:07 PM | my God why not call her name or have a few ppl surround the couple or or or...this is awful. And now to top it off it seems it was Madeline!! Read this:
Three new witnesses have come forward to support claims that the girl at the restaurant was Madeleine. A waiter and waitress corroborated the woman’s report that a couple acting suspiciously accompanied the child.
Police are so impressed by the accounts that they have issued a Europe-wide identikit drawing of a man they wish to question.
Detectives have described it as a “highly credible development”.
Briton Alex Murray, 60, recognised the man from the photofit image drawn up by police in Belgium. He spotted the Dutchman in Praia da Luz near the time the four-year-old was snatched.
The utilities worker from Newbridge on Wye, mid Wales, said the man was “hanging around” the Jasmin Cafe – less than half a mile from the apartment where Madeleine was taken.
“When I saw the picture I recognised him straight away,” Mr Murray told the Daily Express.
“It just jumped off the page when I saw it.”
Mr Murray said: “He would always be in there talking to the bar staff and hanging around some of the people using the internet in there. He didn’t strike me as being on holiday because he never seemed to wear holiday garb.
“Sometimes he was in there with a woman I thought was in her 30s.”
Mr Murray also met Kate and Gerry McCann days after their daughter vanished.
Detectives leading the hunt are looking at the possibility that the couple are moving around with the woman scouting out safe havens before they are joined by the man and the little girl.
The latest sighting came last Saturday at about 2.30pm at the De Pauze restaurant, 10 miles from Maastricht on the Dutch border.
The couple ordered drinks but left when the witness asked a staff member to contact the police.
Detective Houben Eddy who is coordinating the local investigation in the nearby town of Tongeren said they were taking the information received very seriously.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/15564
I sincerely hope all the publicity is not going be a deterrent...ie the couple disappearing underground with her... | |
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| Madeleine is dead - claim Portugese police
Posted: 8/4/2007 8:38:45 PM | Although an official source from the PGR justified the postponing of the interview with “agenda issues”, the moves by the PJ and some elements from the british police during these last days – accompanied by two dogs, in Praia da Luz – seem to indicate that the investigation is now centered on the McCann family and their group of friends.
It is interesting to note that the British media reports differ somewhat widely from the Portugese newspaper report in the Sol.
http://prisonersvoice.blogspot.com/
Much more at link. Again, the parents....maybe it was them after all.  | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 8/6/2007 12:27:04 PM | I have to say - well said, I have been on many forums and I think many people are starting to feel the same way. I was angered by it from the start but was always getting 'told off' for my opinions, however, now it is something that people feel more able to say. Gerry McCanns blog is THE most stupid thing I have EVER read, if you haven't seen it yet you should look at it, it's so matter-of-fact and he makes the most cringe-worthy comments. Anyway - just wanted to say well done you for voicing your opinion on such a controversial matter  | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 8/6/2007 6:51:49 PM |
I have been on many forums and I think many people are starting to feel the same way. I was angered by it from the start but was always getting 'told off' for my opinions, however, now it is something that people feel more able to say. Gerry McCanns blog is THE most stupid thing I have EVER read, if you haven't seen it yet you should look at it, it's so matter-of-fact and he makes the most cringe-worthy comments.
The investigation itself has always focused on the parents. A few wrenches thrown in (I feel) to ward off suspicion. The latest news confirms that.
Gerry's blog? Yawn....I agree with you wd. | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 8/7/2007 12:39:29 PM | | Fox news is reporting that the British investigators have found blood in the room and they are testing it to see if it belongs to the little girl. | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 8/7/2007 2:00:41 PM | Well in warm countries you often get the blood of mosquitos left on the wall after they have been zapped. And the staff would of course clean it. But if it does turn out to be her blood, it's hardly likely that an intruder would kill Madeleine then spend time washing the wall, is it? So that presumably would point suspicion at the family?
But then there is this sighting... Curiouser and curiouser said Alice...... | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 9/7/2007 11:14:22 AM | http://www.abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3571302&page=1
I was so disappointed to read this, I know mothers have been the perp in certain cases but I didn't see this coming. I'm not passing premature judgement, just a little surprised at the accusation. | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 9/7/2007 5:27:51 PM | ^^^^^ Why be so lazy and not give people a clue about what the link is about?
To anyone interested, I read a news article today where the police are thinking she may have acidently killed her daughter and disposed of the body and have offered her a plea bargin, also, implicating her husband... | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 9/7/2007 5:42:59 PM | | I read on yahoo a link that they were looking at the mother as suspect. They found blood on the car seat of a car that the parents rented after the incident. Which makes no sense unless they were disposing of the body. They asked the mother if she accidently killed her daughter. | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 8/5/2008 2:39:56 PM | Anyone want to comment on the latest developments? Looking back on all the posts about Madeline, a lot of people have been very hostile toward her parents (especially in the UK).
For those who haven't heard, the case has been closed by the portugese police. The McCann's suspect status is removed and the evidence has been released to them and the press. The evidence also includes an account from a shopkeeper in Holland.
Ms Stam was at the back of the shop when the young girl approached her and asked in English without an accent: "Do you know where my mummy is?"
The shop assistant answered that her mother was a little further back in the store but the child replied, "She is not my mummy," and added: "She is a stranger, she took me from my mummy."
She said the girl had dark brown hair in a ponytail, "huge" green-brown eyes and a pale face which showed "little or no emotion".
The report was sent to the Portuguese authorities on June 18 last year but it is not clear what action was taken.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080805/tuk-madeleine-leads-not-followed-up-dba1618.html
A significant development at the time was when the portugese claimed that DNA evidence from the McCann's hire car, was Madeline's.
Mr Lowe, from the major incidents team at the Birmingham-based Forensic Science Service, said it was impossible to conclude whether a sample from the McCanns' hire car came from their daughter Madeleine.
Four days later Portuguese detectives named Mr and Mrs McCann as formal suspects in the child's disappearance, citing forensic evidence as grounds for their suspicions.
Police then categorically told Mr McCann in interview that his daughter's DNA had been found in the family's Renault Scenic hire car.
The McCanns' spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, told Sky News: "I can confirm that the Portuguese police put it to Gerry as a fact that Madeleine's DNA had been found in the apartment and the vehicle, when it is now clear that that was not the case, and that the initial FSS report had said the findings were inconclusive.
"You have to ask what the police were trying to achieve by over-presenting evidence that they did not have, and clearly could not claim to have.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/skynews/20080805/tuk-sketch-of-final-madeleine-sighting-45dbed5.html
My own feelings on the matter have always been that the portugese police were at fault. The detective leading the investigation had a history of trying to blame parents for crimes against their children. Sometimes attempting to force a confession out of them. I think in this case, the police decided that the McCann's were to blame before looking at the evidence.
To put it bluntly, they pissed away any chance of finding the poor girl. In my opinion the portugese police should be held accountable. I'ts just a shame that wont get her back. | |
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| Madeleine McCann - Kidnapped girl
Posted: 8/6/2008 3:24:17 AM | IMO the whole handling of this case and how the PJ ( portuguese police) approached is is beyond words.
Also the worrying thing is that everyone blamed the 'other side' for their lousy work. Portuguese blaiming British and British saying 'The PJ are in charge so we can not comment'
The fact is that just under 20 kids went missing in the area of Portugal/Spain in last decade and none of them was ever found.
Instead the things hiden under the carpet so they do not damage the tourist industry.
For example the a case of little Rene Hasee, a German boy very similar in looks to Madeleine who went missing while walking on a beach in Algrave just meters behind his parents.
The PJ at the time just took statements from the German parents, never searched for him and obviously never found him.
The lack of communication among the EU police forces is appalling, if the things do not change on EU level soon it will become a heaven for abuse of this situation.
Re stubborn and inflexible work of PJ, I guess so far they dealt with the folks who do not ask questions about the ways they work and all done secretively and by hiding things under the carpet.. The McCanns challenged them but they paid quite a high price for it ! | |
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