| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/12/2007 4:40:03 PM | Does anyone think that a positive correlation exists between a person's IQ and the length of their profile? (in general) i.e. a trend for those with higher IQs to write longer profiles.
This question is being posted here because IQ and correlation relate to Psychology, which is studied scientifically. If a psychology forum existed this question would be posted there. | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/12/2007 4:59:55 PM | Typically, writing that's longer than average means that someone is a poor editor, not that they have that much to say.
I am sorry for the length of my letter, but I had not the time to write a short one.
- Blaise Pascal*
GE&H
* attributed to others as well | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/12/2007 5:16:35 PM | | Ooh excelent a literary reference. How about a unscientific poll with a small non-randomized sample? Just take the number of words in your profile and divide it by your IQ. That way we have some useless data to draw concusions from. | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/12/2007 6:06:23 PM | Doubt it. Mines long and I'm stewpit.
If you want some insight into someone's IQ, read what they say. Quantity isn't quality. Smart people can often say a lot, using few words.
But having said that, there's a lot of stupid people with Hi IQs. Seriously. So to get caught up in such things is to have a fetish for placing square pegs in round holes as far as I'm concerned. But that assumes I'm smart enough to know. | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/12/2007 6:19:29 PM |
But having said that, there's a lot of stupid people with Hi IQs. Seriously. So to get caught up in such things is to have a fetish for placing square pegs in round holes as far as I'm concerned. But that assumes I'm smart enough to know.
Unfortunately, I do have such a fetish... I don't loose any sleep over it, but I find it fun nontheless... And after reading other posts by you, I assume you are smart enough. | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/12/2007 6:44:15 PM | | I believe there's a correlation between profile length and the type of person who wants to link up with other people by exhibiting their personalities in words. Lots of blathering could indicate self-absorption, but lots of information and say some policies may indicate someone who wants to meet like-minded people. That's about it though. 'Quantity is not quality', I agree. | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/12/2007 6:49:28 PM | Harry Peter
I agree;
Quantity isn't quality and "smart people can often say a lot using few words"
I've noticed some of the shorter profiles, (sometimes done in point-form) in which the person has a profession or has attained a level of education that suggests they have an above average IQ. On a related note, there are studies that have found a correlation between certain professions and IQ.
Are there any psychologists or psyc majors out there that would like to contribute to this thread? | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/12/2007 8:51:34 PM | Interesting to contemplate, but I would think it shows more in the way of motivation, self confidence, literacy skills and length of time on POF than mere intelligence..
And regardless of the length, intelligence can be readily shown through the wording in a profile.. but then, so can idiocy, lol
JMO | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/12/2007 9:35:06 PM | I think there's a difference between a short profile and a poorly written profile. I have seen many profiles that were nary two lines long and riddled with spelling mistakes and grammatical errors.
The length of a profile has nothing to do with a person's IQ (except for mine, of course - it's really long and I'm really smart!) I have seen some very well written, yet short, profiles. | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/13/2007 4:29:02 AM | I think if anything there is an inverse correlation between IQ and profile length. The less intelligent the longer and more rambling the profile, the shorter the smarter.
Plus I hate having to scroll through that huge long profile when I just want to see what forums they have posted in. | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/13/2007 11:07:28 AM | Profile length is a matter of personal preference.
The quality of the profile is a better indication of someones IQ.
They can either have a lot to say, lots of hobbies/interests or they may be to trying to sway you, baffle you, with their bull which suggests insecurities.
I prefer shorter profiles and reading what they post in the forums. | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/13/2007 3:20:18 PM | Some people with higher IQ's write long-winded profiles to be sure to 'include it all'. Some write short concise profiles because 'they can'. Some people with lower IQ's write long-winded profiles because they fumble around with the language, trying to make sure they've made their point, while some write short concise profiles because that's all they can.
I think this point has about as much validity as all the rest of the over-generalizations and blind leaps in logic that run rampant in the forums.
Just my opinion ...
cdn guy | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/14/2007 9:11:57 AM | MSG2:
To bad theres no correlation between your post and science.
Psychology is not a science. Never was, never will be. :-)
Furthermore, psychology does not propose nor develop hypotheses. It cites and encourages opinions. | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/14/2007 10:33:30 AM | Well, I'd say there might be a correlation between deep stupidity and very short profiles. That said, there's a correlation between being that stupid and not being able to turn on a computer so the actual profiles won't necessarily reflect this.
I'd also say there might be a correlation between one type of intelligence, linguistic, and well-written, 2-4 short paragraph profiles. This would be a hunch, not a study though.
I think there would be be weaker correlations for women than men, based on threads on the subject. Women will get inordinate amounts of positive feedback just for having a profile. Men will tend to get feedback that sounds more like wind whistling across a desert.
And there are guys that are very smart that play a very basic game; say as little as possible in order to allow women to project as much as possible onto them.
Cheers,
Mike (obviously I'm not that smart) | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/14/2007 12:33:43 PM | Actually there is no strong correlation between IQ and profession. The weak correlation only shows when you divide professions up by "complexity."
Correlation on the -1 to 1 scale (to have a strong positive correlation you need about 0.7+)
High Complexity: .58
Moderately high: .56
Intermediate: .51
Moderately low: .40
Low: .23
(Briefer version Psychology: Themes and Variations, 7th Ed. page 255)
Now that doesn't reflect salary or importance, just complexity.
Personally, I would rather view the length on any given topic. For instance, there are some profiles that don't tell much but use up hundreds of words to say practically nothing. If someone has five or six distinct messages in their profile (describe themselves, describe their background, goals, etc), those each take space.
-GG | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/14/2007 12:42:25 PM | | Simply put.... no not at all. I have found many people with shorter profiles that seem to know alot about different things and they show they have knowledge like anyone else. Perhapes they didn't want to be detailed in their profile or they perhapes want to save their information for when they talk to someone. I have come across posters that seem to be very intelligent that may have relatively short profiles and I don't think that short profiles have anything at all to do with peoples IQ. | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/14/2007 1:40:26 PM | No, longer profiles alone does not indicate a higher IQ.
This said, the current IQ tests are flawed in many ways. One obvious flaw is the lack of accurate tests designed for those who can neither read nor write. Does ones lack of education indicate a lesser chance of having a high mental capacity? Yes, I think intelligence quotient testing has need of being revised if it’s to accurately portray all’s mental capacity.
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/14/2007 5:25:03 PM | I don't know about the IQ of the person writing the profile, but here is an interesting observation. I have exactly the same profile at three different places. Here (a free site), a paid site, and another that specializes in real introductions.
I get emails at POF, but mostly of a quality that I know there is no match. At the paid, strictly email type format site, I receive very few emails, but at the place that specializes in real face to face meetings, if I desired, I could meet a couple of guys a week. | |
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| Positive correlation between IQ and profile length?
Posted: 5/14/2007 5:59:51 PM | Pazoozoo
I thank you for your thoughts. I've only been here for 3 weeks, so I am unable to comment on the # of emails I've received or the "quality" of these emailers, both of which are irrelevant to this thread.
I appreciate your comments but they are off-topic and may be contagious, leading to more off-topic posts which only exacerbates forum clutter. I would have messaged these comments to you, but your mailing restrictions prevented it. | |
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