| Abortion & Politics
Posted: 5/13/2007 8:19:17 AM | At election time a reporters first question to a candidate is "Are you in favor of abortion?"
I feel the question is irrelevant in the US since the Supreme Court ruled it's legal but my question is:Does a candidates position on abortion effect the way you vote?
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Posted: 5/13/2007 9:16:09 PM | No...abortion should not be the decision of any government, but rather a decision made by a woman, her partner, and their respective physician in respect to the woman's emotional, mental, and physical health.
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Posted: 5/15/2007 6:28:31 AM | Angel: I think the decision for an abortion has nothing to do with her partner, doctor, or government.
After all, if the partner want's an abortion and the would-be mother doesn't - then it doesn't happen. That's why there are so many murder suicides happening lately.... | |
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Posted: 5/15/2007 3:25:51 PM | " That's why there are so many murder suicides happening lately...."
I hope you were joking,if not how does having a child increase the rate of murder-suicide? | |
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Posted: 5/15/2007 3:48:48 PM | | If the mother wants to have the baby, and the guy doesn't, it can often lead to heated discussions, frustration, and ultimately violence. There have been a few incidents along these lines in the news lately unfortunately. | |
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Posted: 5/15/2007 10:59:52 PM | I don't think the murder/suicide rate is so cut and dry, but it is an issue to consider. I myself would probably lose the will to live if a girl I was with were to become pregnant. Children are the pits and the only thing worse are the parents who do everything in their power to make everyone around them as miserable as they are.
The belief in choice is not only something I STRONGLY consider while looking for someone to vote for, It's also something I am extremely considerate of at the beginning of a relationship. I don't want kids until I'm, at least, 30. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 3:53:50 AM | | Any candidate who is not pro-choice, will simply not get my vote at all, regardless of what party he belongs. | |
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| Abortion & Politics
Posted: 5/16/2007 9:12:27 AM | If I would be living in a country that this is an issue then yes.
I would only vote for a person who would be pro-abortion.
Currently living in Ireland where abortion is illegal. There was a referendum a few years ago but it seems that the catholic religion has still a strong hold of the people in here and unfortunately it did not go through. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 9:59:12 AM | | As I watched the Republican presidential candidates debate last night on Fox, I must say that I was somewhat suprised tha the issue of abortion is still batted about as one of the deciding factors on whether or not to vote for someone as president. Personally, I find it absurd that anyones belief, let alone a mans, should have any credence when it comes to a woman's sexual health. It's just as bad as asking my three year old neice whether or not Grampa should be allowed to take Viagra. Come on, America, let's find something else to talk about. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 10:35:57 AM | The issue is far too valuable to the right to ever be seriously tampered with. It mobilizes the far right, but because it is constitutionally protected it doesn't mobilize the other side. Since '68 there have been exactly 3 Supreme Court Justices appointed by a Democratic President. 40 years of virtual monopolistic control over Supreme Court appointments, yet Roe v Wade was decided and upheld several times.
It's an issue the Republicans can exploit in election after election so don't look for any change in the law, or in the courts. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 5:50:01 PM |
After all, if the partner want's an abortion and the would-be mother doesn't - then it doesn't happen. That's why there are so many murder suicides happening lately....
Either way, my opinion that a decision to abort or not abort a child should be based on the emotional, mental, and physical abilities or stability of the woman stands. I don't tend to agree with abortion personally...but in certain circumstances I do (rape, incest, mother's life in danger) and do not feel the government should be deciding this for a woman. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 7:20:11 PM | | Sayalla, for those of us who are pro life the abortion issue has nothing to do with a woman's sexual health. It's not about trying to invade her privacy. It's about having a high regard for an innocent human life. Those who are pro choice are the ones who have turned it into a health or sexual issue. Not us. | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 7:30:28 PM | | Does it affect my vote? As a pro life republican my votes usually go to pro life candidates but I've voted for pro choice candidates in the past. I look at where they stand on other issues like taxes, defense etc... | |
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Posted: 5/16/2007 7:31:20 PM | | It affects the way I vote if they are vocal about it and alluding to the fact that they may try to change Roe v. Wade. That's all we need, is to go backward even further. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 3:53:06 AM |
Sayalla, for those of us who are pro life the abortion issue has nothing to do with a woman's sexual health.
Of course not... it's about subjugating women and trying to force them to do what YOU want them to do; against their own wishes.
It's not about trying to invade her privacy.
Of course it is. If you try to make someone's private business YOUR business..you're trying to invade their privacy.
It's about having a high regard for an innocent human life.
Then start taking care of those already here. I think it's disgusting that people are whining about potential human lives when they're ignoring those already alive.
Those who are pro choice are the ones who have turned it into a health or sexual issue. Not us.
We have turned it into nothing. It's always been a sexual health issue. So stop trying to turn it into an emotional issue...as most of us do not agree with your "emotions" on the subject. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 9:34:35 AM |
At election time a reporters first question to a candidate is "Are you in favor of abortion?"
I feel the question is irrelevant in the US since the Supreme Court ruled it's legal but my question is:Does a candidates position on abortion effect the way you vote?
It matters not to me.
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Posted: 5/18/2007 7:38:17 AM | | Having worked many political campaigns I have observed that Pro-Lifers are virtually the only people who ask candidates about their position on abortion. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2007 10:58:51 AM | The question "Are you in favor of abortion?" is kinda like "are you in favor of the war?" They are the yes/no litmus tests type questions that inspire and keep us in this 50/50, blue/red, lib/con, dem/rep, 2 party political system. (Not a good thing in my opinion)
Who the hell is in favor of either of those? Brings up images of the person that just can't wait to have either of them and celebrating the day of the events.
Maybe more appropriate questions would be "how would you help reduce the number of abortions?" and "How would you prevent and/or end current wars?"
"those of us who are pro life the abortion issue has nothing to do with a woman's sexual health. It's not about trying to invade her privacy. It's about having a high regard for an innocent human life."
Absolutely- well said.
It's about defending the defenseless.
Protecting unborn children from their mothers and those participating in harming and killing them---- i.e.: violent offenses on pregnant women includes their unborn babies.
Who's rights trump who ---- baby vs. mother
A woman's right to full control of her body and physical well-being, absolutely.
A woman's right ,solely at her discretion, to determine the death of another human being, nope.
No one person without immediate direct physical threat has that right nor should they.
The assertion that it's only the crazed Christian right-wingers trying to dominate and subjugate women is wrong.
The assertion that a fetus is not yet a person is wrong.
Until constitutional rights extend to the unborn, this will be political fight, a fight for the rights of the unborn, male and female.
We as individuals also have countless responsibilities defined in law that trump our individual rights in order to protect and provide the most basic rights to others more vulnerable and less fortunate than we are. Why should this issue be any different? | |
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Posted: 5/19/2007 11:44:30 AM | So hard to say if abortion should be legal or not, where do the rights of the mother end and the rights of the fetus begin.......Should a pregnant women be prosecuted if she smokes, drinks, takes drugs, or engages in any type of risky behavior that may affect the fetus ?
What if she refuses to eat healthy, take her prenatal vitamins, or have regular health check ups while pregnant ? Should she be forced to do those things for the sake of the fetus ?
It's a slippery slope once a fetus is given constitutional rights.
I guess for now I would say that I wouldn't vote for a candidate that was anti abortion even though I don't like the idea of abortion I feel a woman's right to control her own body comes before the rights of the fetus. | |
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Posted: 5/19/2007 12:08:29 PM | "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights. . ."
Not a slipery slope.
"Creator" Wether you belive it to be God or woman, the rights are what they are.
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Posted: 5/20/2007 11:36:10 AM | It's about having a high regard for an innocent human life.
Oh?? Just how do the anti abortionists help with the life of children already on this overcrowded planet, or help with all the extra children they want to see go full term ?
Do they all get together and adopt them?
Do they all get together and financially support them?
Do they all get together and make sure they are educated properly?
Do they all get together and ensure their medical care?
Do they all get together and spend time with them and help them become decent human beings?
Now IF, these anti abortionists were to set up some organisation to do all of these things properly.
I would say that you have your heart in the right place, but that you still have no right to invade the privacy of a woman's decision or force them to bring a life into this world against her will.
This quote works both ways.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights. . ." | |
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Posted: 5/20/2007 12:33:12 PM | | and still...the rights of the unborn go ignored | |
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Posted: 5/20/2007 12:57:17 PM | This ABSOLUTELY effects my vote. A candidates stance on abortion is a very good litmus test to determine whether they base their decisions on faith or not. If they are pro-life, they obviously base their decisions on faith. Any candidate who does this, can not be trusted to defend the separation of church and state which is so vital to a strong democracy.
Now the actual question of abortion is an easy one to solve is you look at the problem rationally, use existing evidence and take faith out of the equation. The only time you can kill something is when it's actually has conscious identity. Any fetus before it has brain wave activity has no "soul" or identity of itself. Thus it is not murder. You're simply aborting a "potential" human or "soul". If you start calling the abortions of these "potential" souls as murder, then you might as well consider birth control or even absidence as murder. And that's absolutely ridiculous. Abortion a potential for a human is NOT murder. So eventually (since reason always rules at the end of the day), the "compromise" on abortion will be that it is okay in the first trimester before brain activity, but not okay (except in limited situations) in the 2nd and 3rd trimesters. Doesn't matter if you believe otherwise or not. Reason and rationality is what drives progress and it always wins in the end. So the above compromise will ultimately happen. I have no doubt about it at all. The day rationality doesn't win, is the day in which we destroy humanity. Humanity simply can not exist without progress which is not possible without limiting faith. | |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 12:50:53 AM | | Abortion should only be allowed in severe, critical situation where the life of the mother is a stake. Abortion shouldn't be so legal that anybody for any reason can go get one done for trivia reasons. We live in a free democratic society not a do as i please society. A lot of americans just don't get it when it comes to freedom. Freedom is living with the provision of the law. But other than the abortion issue my vote is going to be more economic and on war in iraz. | |
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