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Posted: 5/13/2007 9:54:05 AM | I live in a council house in a nice area so not sure what that says about me,lol.
I really am not that shallow that i would judge someone on where they lived.
I want to buy my house so does that mean i will become an snob??? I don't think so. Was brought up in Salford and Glasgow. Not much snobbery going on there,thankfully. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 9:54:35 AM | i live in an council area, although i own my home and many neighbours own theirs.
we can always tell who are council tennants. im not a snob or anything like that but then again a certain element of decurum or class is in view.
my council tennants will kick their kids out regardless of age/sex at all hours.
they tend to be anti-social, as regards swearing, loud music, drinking on the streets etc
it is not because im a home owner, or anything like that i just hate the 'chav' culture!
ive never had a spoon in my mouth, ive had to work for everything since i was 16!
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Posted: 5/13/2007 9:55:20 AM |
so my question....do you assume people living on council estates are less of a person and prone to cause more trouble than people who own their own houses[\quote] Nah Leigh. I grew up on a Council Estate, never did me any harm  I think it doesnt matter where you come from, its the parents that define who you are. When I lived on a council estate there were good and bad, just like there is in any street or road in the town or country. When i moved off the council estate at 16 I ended up in a posh area. It didnt make much difference to what went on locally. A guy just up the road was a drug dealer and he lived in a posh house. Of course i do think it affects certain things though. If you have parents who live in a 500,000 pound house and you grew up in that house then the parents must be well educated and the kids rub off on that. Also though if i was to win the lottery and i was a drug dealer or something it wouldnt stop me moving in next door to someone posh. A big nice posh house doesnt necessarily mean you are posh. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 9:56:59 AM | There are other options, some people live in Forces accommodation, some people live in privately rented accommodation.
It is the person that matters not what they own, nor where they live. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 9:58:03 AM | well said!
People on council estates often dont get the leg up those with the silver spoons in thier gobs get | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 9:58:56 AM | I was very happy living in a council estate for many years, (15 years) so happy in fact I couldn't be bothered moving out when I earned enough money to have my own place, what was the point, all my friends lived there, everyone knew me, everyone knew each other, we looked after each other, and never once had an attempted break in or car broken into/stolen.
Some people bought their own council properties too, and I was about to follow suite, when I remembered something, change is good for the mind, sometimes you need a leap into the unknown, so I just moved recently, can't say i regret it but i do miss not having my friends around me.
One thing to note is that its not just the people on council estates who are on drugs, its everywhere, soemtimes its the people with money who are more into it than others. Everyones different though, and just people at the end of the day, and some ppl can be common even if they lived in a mansion with a pool!
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Posted: 5/13/2007 9:59:37 AM | some coucil homes folk are very decent some are not same as homeowners both good and bad..
now i wonder what i be classed at as i own mine? | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:00:18 AM | I wouldn't want to live on a council estate for one. Then again there are not that many detetched council houses around.
As for the people...well good and bad people in private homes or council homes. A person is a person and the house doesn't make them any better or any worse.
Take it to the other extreme, I have known some very nice gypsies. You would only know they were pikeys because of the surname!!!
If you looked at crime figures (which I don't), perhaps they would tell a different story. Then again perhaps they would even reveal which criminals from which housing backgrounds were involved in the biggest well organised crimes!!!!
I know that not many of the Brinks Matts were from council estates...not the higher echelons of them anyway. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:00:46 AM |
my council tennants will kick their kids out regards of age/sex at all hours.
they tend to be anti-social, as regards swearing, loud music, drinking on the streets etc
it is not because im a home owner, or anything like that i just hate the 'chav' culture!
So yet again, is it only council tenants that cause grief where they live now?
And are all council tenants chav's?
Don't tar us all with the same brush. I've lived on council estates all my life.
I don't and never have done any of the above.
And i don't see why there should be an us and them, with whether we own our homes or not. Pathetic. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:01:42 AM | Yes they are proned to experience (not cause) more trouble, .. beacuse they are a different social class ..BUT that does not make them any less of a person .... my family is a cross breed of council estate dwellers and Plush Home Owners ... i got to see and experience both sides of the coin ..  | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:02:48 AM | You obviously haven't seen my local Beirut Council Estate Princess Leigh. The Police don't even go into it in just a car, its a riot van. I went around it once with a couple of friends just because I had to see if what people were saying was true. Burnt out cars, parents sat on chairs on the pavement all chatting whilst snotty kids ran about. Oh and their language, well, I am sure their parents were very proud - that's right the language of the kids.
Oh and the difference is people who own or have mortgages are taking responsibility for being an adult and not expecting the state to give them a handout.
So in answer to your question yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!!! | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:04:40 AM | | Oh and Princess Fiona, I was never given a silver spoon, just given the self respect and upbringing whereby if you want things in life ie a home etc you work hard for it and get one! Leg up seriously too funny LMAO | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:04:43 AM | I live on a council estate, and have to say most of the people here have bought their homes..
I think you find some that own their own homes spend an awfull lot of time competing with their neighbours.
Owning your own home doesnt necessarily make you better than anyone else, and some people pay more rent than some pay mortgage..
I know some people who own their own homes who are so far up their own backsides, but also up to thier eyes in debt.. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:05:54 AM |
Oh and the difference is people who own or have mortgages are taking responsibility for being an adult and not expecting the state to give them a handout.
Why do people assume all council tentants are on the dole, OMG!!!! 
I've claimed income support once whilst i had time out for my son. 1 year i was on it.
I've worked all my life, and am a responsable adult even though i don't own my own home, yet. Ta very much. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:06:41 AM | piewhacket, could you be more offensive???
I work like a nutter, am raising my daughter to know right from wrong and yet people like you can be so rude. the class system is still rife on here.
Thought i was acting like a responsible adult, but i bow to your superior intellegence. You being a home owner and all.
Get a grip people. We are all different and thats a good thing. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:08:07 AM | Well to the poster who started this thread. Whats wrong with living on council estates. They are people as well, not EVERYONE can afford to buy their own homes, so what makes you any different, born with a silver spoon in your mouth, wasnt there trouble makers in your area when you grew up.
From what I read in your opening, you seem to think or have been mislead that ppl on council estates are bad. Hmmmmmmmm maybe that silver spoon has somewhat tarnished.
When I had my first daughter I lived in a council flat on a council estate, does that make me a roughian. Hang on il go check see if I have a criminal record.
FFS woman get off your high stool and pick up yer toys. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:08:26 AM | My parents always owned their own home till they got divorced and my mum chose to give up our home as my dad thought he had the right to walk in whenever he pleased (why she didn't change the locks I will never know) . We move to a council estate, mind you in Sunderland most people live on an estate, and it did kinda bother me at 13, but what bothered me more was the reaction you got from some people.
It kinda shocked me how much snobbery was around - I'd never noticed it before, people are people and no living in a council house wouldn't put me off if the person was somone I got on with and liked then why would I dislike them cos they lived in a council house... it's just somewhere to live
I will always consider myself working class and am proud of my roots, I own my own home now but so what.. the bank just owns it and I pay mortgage instead of rent
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:08:33 AM | i live in a council house, my neighbours on either side own thier homes, both elderly, both lovely people, my house is a semi, and the estate is fab, i can leave my doors unlocked, windows open, all the kids are in bed by 8/9pm, or at least in their own homes! we help each other with all needs, shopping cutting grass ect, honest my ex and i owned our house in kent and in three years i knew less then 3 neighbours..... i desperatly wanted to come home here, says it all as far as i am concerned.
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:09:29 AM | I live on a council estate...I have since I was a kid...My mum bought her council house and I bought mine...OK you get the usual bad crowds but if you have grown up knowing that kind of thing then you can telerate it to a degree...some council estates are just so badly run that they will never get rid of those that bring an estate down...
My dad owns and lives in a really posh part of the same town and never sees any trouble...He has never owned a council house and has only lived in one briefly before my mum and he divorced...So I have seen both sides...as long as someones happy Id say both has its advantages... | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:09:38 AM | | Missy H I did not infer that at all - I simply said that people who have mortgages or own their properties are taking responsibility, rather than paying discounted housing rent to the state ie getting a handout. Whether you work or not is irrelevant. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:10:10 AM | msg13
excuse me..
i have lived on a council estate all my life and proud of it..
my children have set times to come in and do not wonder the streets at all hours..
i work and pay full rent and get no hand outs,
so wot if u have a mortgage, and point being is.......................
what makes you more responsbale then me,,,
.. i think in your case with a mortgage come arrogance
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:11:56 AM | Oh I could be a lot more offensive believe me especially when you look at my local crime figures and court cases and see the addresses of where these people live. I am sure the 75 year old man who had his head smacked in with a bat for 10 quid, the couple who were tied up, the child who was abused verbally - geeeee my list could go on and yes they all lived on that council estate.
Then again I will say I am refering to my local council estate if that makes you feel better. | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:15:28 AM | Oh and the difference is people who own or have mortgages are taking responsibility for being an adult and not expecting the state to give them a handout. So in answer to your question yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!!!
Piewhacker, I think that you are totally judgmental. Yes, there may be higher unemployment on some council estates but not everyone is part of the underclass. My parents have lived on a council estate all their lives and have always worked. So, just because you have bought a house you are better than anyone who lives in council accommodation????????????????
No, I don't think so dear | |
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Posted: 5/13/2007 10:15:30 AM |
we can always tell who are council tennants. im not a snob or anything like that but then again a certain element of decurum or class is in view.
my council tennants will kick their kids out regardless of age/sex at all hours.
they tend to be anti-social, as regards swearing, loud music, drinking on the streets etc
it is not because im a home owner, or anything like that i just hate the 'chav' culture
Sorry, but i am laughing so hard at this statement it is making my sides ache!!!
I have been a council tenent in what used to be the biggest housing estate in europe at one time for over 32 years now. Both of my parents have always worked, but there was always a parent home when i got in from school and there was always one there to get me in at a sensible time at night and put me to bed.
I have a fair level education with 6 'O' Levels and 3 'A' levels (Physics, Computer Science and English Literature) as well as being a A+ qualified computer engineers. I have worked since i was 13 years old and since i was 16 i have held 3 long term positions (1st job redundant, 2nd i left for the third).
I have never been involved with the police and have raised five children with my same moral values and they are an absolute credit to me as you will hear from anyone that has met them.
I really do hate it when people take a commom misconception and expand it to cover everyone that falls into a single category as they see it. | |
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