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Posted: 5/17/2007 6:20:09 PM | Yesterday the Anti Poverty Coalition (APC) staged a protest. The police in my opinion responded appropriately with enough officers to handle any situation that may arise.
In the past these people have used violence, intimidation, and lies to get there point across. Now yesterday they used personal threats against the Board members.
Do they think that actions like this will sway public opinion to there side?
As Canadian citizens we have the right to lawfully protest things that we don't agree with. But what happened yesterday went far beyond that. I think that these people are abusing this privilege that we all share.
I think they are acting like second class terrorists and I think should be treated as such.
Weather you agree with the Olympics or not what is your opinion on how the APC has acted? | |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 6:35:41 PM | I agree with you 100%. I would support and agree with parts of their message that they are protesting about BUT, when you take a right of protest too far not only do you get in trouble with police, you completely loose the message that you were/are trying to send in the first place because of the extra steps that you took.
In my OP, all you really need is a large volume of peeps to join in on the protest and be loud about it. Once you go beyond that, you have lost the whole message that you are trying to send to others and government. Violence, threats, will never get anyone, anywhere, ever! | |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 6:40:23 PM | They got the media attention they were looking for.
Any publicity is good publicity?
To my mind, personal threats to people to drive them from their homes are if not pushing the line, then right up against it.
They certainly got attention, but I don't think I will be rushing up to scream with them. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 6:50:20 PM | Personal threats are not surprising from this group. They have shown in the past a holier than though attitude, and that they seem to think they should get whatever they want. Reminds me of a bunch of spoiled whiny children.
To hell with their little group. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 9:22:26 PM | these people (APC) are missing a few screws...or a few cards short of a deck. They blame the olympics for SRO's disappearing, as if VANOC is shutting down the rooms, and also that VANOC is taking money from the poor to fund the Olympics. Nothing is farther from the truth, let alone reality.
SRO's are disappearing because of our outrageous real estate market. They are being torn down and turned into condos, nothing to do with the Olympics. The money for the Olympics is coming from other government funding (funding for the homeless has not been cut, it is being increased) & taxes and the private sector. Funny how they didn't say a word when the government stepped in and bought a bunch of SRO's that were on the market for developers to keep some supply available.
These guys are picking on an easy target (and the wrong target!), and being terrorists while they are at it. I hope the police charge someone for uttering threats, and simply just start locking these a*** holes up. At least the city has stopped giving them any funding for assisting the homeless. Guess these guys don't have jobs, or are they on the public teet as well? | |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 11:13:46 PM | Please read up on the NO 2010 website carefully.
http://www.no2010.com/1/
IMHO careful research of APC and their alliance with the Native Youth Movement to protest 2010 Olympics shows that they have valid claims.
Public dissent has been criminalized in the free world over the past 10 years.
However, VPD has tried not to make Vancouver a police state, but their surveillance of APC and associated protestors has not been up to snuff.
Whoever made the threats at the May 16 protest, that might be the work of protestors hiding behind APC, possibly from the NYM camp or from a radical group which was ousted from APC HQ.
As well, the protest in April where the media quotes a supposed APC member or two regarding a bag containing urine-filled bottles - these quotes are the opinions of the No 2010 protestors, not the official PR specifically from APC and should be taken with a grain of salt. http://ottawa.indymedia.ca/en/2007/04/4531.shtml
Specifically, members of the radical group are the source of militancy within the ranks of the protestors. | |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 11:19:40 PM | These guys are picking on an easy target (and the wrong target!), and being terrorists while they are at it. I hope the police charge someone for uttering threats, and simply just start locking these a*** holes up. At least the city has stopped giving them any funding for assisting the homeless. Guess these guys don't have jobs, or are they on the public teet as well?
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Threatening the board members was taking it too far. Its good to see the police are looking into those threats after they were aired on tv yesterday.... | |
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Posted: 5/17/2007 11:39:04 PM | http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=29ce6546-68db-4273-a4ff-ef5318118c63&k=1911
Bringing the protest home to VANOC members should serve as a wake up call.
Building 1/4 of the 2100 units of housing for the homeless isn't enough, considering that there's about 2 yrs left to finish all the units.
Esp. with an apparent lack of commitment to the homeless.
Bit by bit the politicians are actually taking money which could go towards building more housing to build sports facilities.
If the governments involved can throw tax dollars at the Olympics, a transient event lasting less than 6 months, then they should also invest in the homeless, since homelessness may last a lifetime.
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Posted: 5/18/2007 5:06:50 AM | 1. Whoever made the threats at the May 16 protest, that might be the work of protestors hiding behind APC, possibly from the NYM camp or from a radical group which was ousted from APC HQ.
2. As well, the protest in April where the media quotes a supposed APC member or two regarding a bag containing urine-filled bottles - these quotes are the opinions of the No 2010 protestors, not the official PR specifically from APC and should be taken with a grain of salt.
3. Bit by bit the politicians are actually taking money which could go towards building more housing to build sports facilities. If the governments involved can throw tax dollars at the Olympics, a transient event lasting less than 6 months, then they should also invest in the homeless, since homelessness may last a lifetime.
Not sure where you get your info from, but it is slanted ( to be very, very polite), to say the least.
1. The leader of the APC, Mr Cunningham (1st name escapes me) made the threats, and I heard them myself, from his mouth, when interviewed for 15 mins on a local radio news station. So much for this radical group behind them? BTW, the link for the province article...you should read it...he says it in there as well. JEEZE!!!
2. As for the bottles of urine, that report is from the police, who saw them being dropped in the garbage by an APC protester when he was being closely watched because of thier behaviour. They retrieved the bottles, as well as some other materials.
3. Based on this incorrect statement, the 80 million spent of saving SRO's from condo developers wasn't spent. The same ridiculous arguement can be made for any infastructure built, hwys, schools, hospitals, parks, recreational /sporting facilities (some of which are going to be used for the olympics) for communities and the people living in them - you know, those law abiding people who have a life and want to work & raise families and pay the taxes that also go to the homeless - . This statement that tax money is being siphoned off from building SRO's for the homeless is an uninformed and politically expediant load of hogwash. Tax money needs to be spread around, live with it. What's worse, the APC seems to be living off the public teet...ie tax money, so aren't exactly contributing members to the collective pool of monies, and act like criminals demanding society (the government represents the collective society) do what they want, or else... and now they want to target individuals and their private lives who have nothing to do with the homelessness issue?
No one has the right and freedom to act as this group does. They are a black eye on society, and are criminals pretending to act legit under the guise of the homeless. Despicable is a mild way to describe them. | |
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Posted: 5/18/2007 5:19:12 AM | I would submit that this group is making more enemies then friends. As long as they know this, then all is good. But with the intelligence (or lack there of ) that this group is showing, I would have to ask,,,,,WHO would LISTEN to these people????? They are slowly finding out,,,,,,not a lot. They may have a message, but I challenge them to come up with a better game plan to get that message out. Any maybe throw in a little common sense in there would help their cause also. Dumbasses!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 5/18/2007 4:01:16 PM | [IMHO careful research of APC and their alliance with the Native Youth Movement to protest 2010 Olympics shows that they have valid claims.]
Weather the APC has valid claims or not is not the question. The question is do you agree with there tactics?
[ these quotes are the opinions of the No 2010 protesters, not the official PR specifically from APC and should be taken with a grain of salt.]
I think that anything that the APC states should also be taken with a grain of salt.
I have been active with a group that is trying to tackle some of the same issues. (Tenant Rights, Affordable Housing, Safe Streets) So I am very familiar with the issues. We have had meetings with city council. We have also held rallies to make people more informed. If any of our members were to act in an illegal, violent, insulting, or threatening way as the APC have. They would be asked to leave and would not be welcome at any meetings or rallies again. | |
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Posted: 5/18/2007 6:14:00 PM | | There is no way this type of behaviour will sway people to their 'side'. They **** and whine about VANOC taking money away that could be used for affordable housing? What about all the money they are costing joe taxpayer in police man-hours & overtime for security/ investigations for their misguided protests and entirely inappropriate tactics......I could go on with this, but the APC is not worth wasting my time on...kudos to bluecollarguy101 for doing it the proper way! | |
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Posted: 5/19/2007 10:00:51 AM | APC are just a bunch of winers.....what good is protesting something that will happen no matter what....maybe if the APC would work on getting something going to help people get jobs like open up a job center and work there rather then yell and cause other vancouverites get pissed off.......
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Posted: 5/19/2007 11:48:22 AM | Kill Campbell and all the other Jewmericans that back him !
sad to see that anti-semitism is alive and well right here in our own backyards ... yuck 
Personally, I am glad to see the Olympics coming here... but certainly not thrilled about the debt we'll be in because of them. But you cant have one without the other.
I have no issue with those that want to protest peacefully... we have that right and that privilege. But when its violent, intimidating and physically and verbally threatening, thats when the line is crossed. And because of those actions from radical protesters is what ruins it for the rest of us who peacefully protest other issues. Its always the few 'bad apples' that leave a sour taste in your mouth and sets the stage for the future. Its unfortunate but oh so true in any daily circumstance.
What I do have an issue with is when all you see is the same small number of ppl who are in the front lines protesting anything and everything just for the sake of protesting: whether its for housing, saving trees, more jobs, better coffee, more selection of toothpaste. It must be nice to have all that time off thru out the year from your employer to attend all of these protests. I would love to know where to submit my resume to have that luxury as well...
oh wait... they dont actually have jobs... in between their pot smoking breaks, theyre squeegeeing at the local intersection with their dog in tow, not declaring their income... wow, what a surprise. (yes, I know... a low-blow... but I dont think Im the only one getting tired of seeing this) | |
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Posted: 5/19/2007 1:36:56 PM | Sad to see another dumb wannabe blonde has a TV educated voice in our neighbourhood .
M | |
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Posted: 5/19/2007 2:06:55 PM | ^^^^^^ it's been said the first sign of someone operating from a disadvantaged position is when they feel the need to resort to insults, rather than bringing forward facts or data to substantiate their position.
I personally hope the Olympics is a total flop !
Kill Campbell and all the other Jewmericans that back him !
it was the ndp gov't that initiated hosting the 2010 olympics back in the 90's when they were in power. the liberals simply knew a good idea when they saw it and went forward with what was already set in motion. so, if you're looking to hang someone, you might want to start with the idea's originators..... that is if you're not too busy attending that course on how to impress women by insulting one of them. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2007 8:36:25 AM | [ I personally hope the Olympics is a total flop !
Kill Campbell and all the other Jewmericans that back him !
Martin]
WTF. Wow! To think that there are still people with small and closed minded views like these.
I'm sure that orr willie doesn't agree with the issues that the APC is trying to bring to the forefront no matter how wrong there tactics are. But he must enjoy how they are doing it. (He must be wading in the shallow end of the gene pool)
I am however glad that there are not many people with views like this anymore. As it makes it harder for them to reproduce.
[ Sad to see another dumb wannabe blonde has a TV educated voice in our neighbourhood ]
And yet another brilliant statment!
As everyone can see. This man falls right it to the mindset of the APC! If you don't have anything intelligent to say you resort to insulting someone that is making valid points. Maybe you should come on over for the next rally of the APC. It sounds like you will fit right in.
Fluffy.
Great post.
Its to bad that some people don't have the intelligence to come up with valid points but there is a saying that i herd a while ago.
(Stupid people shouldn't breed)
vancouver40.
Good point. If someone has a problem with something they should look at who's idea it was. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2007 11:06:00 AM | with comments like Oor willie's I'm not surprised there are idiots like the APC around. Common sense doesn't apply for these type of people. Intelligence is replaced with insults & violence as a method of articulating your views.
Hey oor...go find an oven to stick your head in...and turn it on while you are it. Jeeze!!
OP - Concensus is the APC is failing miserably in it's quest because of it's actions. (not say the cause is not worthwhile...it's the methods that are lacking). The question is, how to deal with these misguided cretiens? | |
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Posted: 5/20/2007 11:07:03 AM | This might leave you wondering. Could be coincidence...
Many will recall that on July 8, 1947, witnesses claimed that an
unidentified object with five aliens aboard crashed onto a sheep
and cattle ranch just outside Roswell, New Mexico.
This is a well-known incident that many say has long been covered
up by the U.S. Air Force and the federal government.
However, what you may NOT know that in the month of March 1948,
exactly nine months after that historic day, George W. Bush,****Cheney,
Donald Rumsfield, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Condolezza Rice,
Stephen Harper ,Gordon Campbell and Dan Quayle were all born.
See what happens when aliens breed with sheep?
This piece of information may clear up a lot of things. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2007 1:05:46 PM | [This piece of information may clear up a lot of things. ]
Yes this information does clear up a lot of things. You have nothing intelligent to say.
[See what happens when aliens breed with sheep?]
WTF. Are you trying to be funny? Do you thing that this will impress someone?
Why don't you read some of the posts and do a little research and maybe come up with a posting that will add to this thread.
And not post mindless drivel with on meaning. | |
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Posted: 5/20/2007 1:25:59 PM | What the heck are you talking about, oor willie? Your rants are disturbing to many people and your racism is even more so!
Personally, I support the Olympics. I supported Expo 86 when it was here, too. When Clinton and Yeltsen were here, I was happy about that, too. These events bring alot of tourists and money to the city. Their money is good for the city and many do return for another visit or tell their friends and family about the beauty of the city. The trickle down effect is good for the city as a whole.
Even the poor and homeless will benefit from the event. I do not support any violent protests but I do support their right to protest peacefully.
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Posted: 5/20/2007 2:57:34 PM | However, what you may NOT know that in the month of March, I noticed you are an Aries - perhaps you know about this from your own history?
OOR ? is that for
Opposed Oppressed Redneck - just curious
The Olympics are happening period
celebrate our YOUTH that actually do positive things in this world | |
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Posted: 5/20/2007 4:25:32 PM | read your profile OOR...'nuff said, especially when you add in your well thought out and convincing statements...most of which have nothing to do with this thread.
...single for sooo long?...get used to it.
Have a nice day, and find another thread to spout your ramblings on...this one has had enough of you.... | |
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Posted: 5/20/2007 6:25:39 PM | Well now. David Cunningham of the APC has been arrested again. I'm not sure what the charges are but I am guessing it will be something like uttering threats.
Of course he is not happy with police tactics. To avoid a confrontation they contacted him posing as a reporter wanting an interview.
I personally have no problem with this. I'm sure that the police thought that if other members of the APC were around there would be the possibility of violence.
My hats off to the VPD for avoiding a situation that would be unpleasant and very dangerous to all parties.
And my compliments to;
Cuddly Dudley
Cheerleader 4love
Augiedougie
vancouver40
FluffyPinkCuffs
For helping to deal with a poster that had no idea of the issues at hand and his Racists views.
BCG | |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 12:15:14 PM | | I feel everyone has the right to protest and fight for issues when its with correct information. Cunningham of APC, has taken his protest threats too far, and when the people who run Vanoc, have anything to do with disturbing their homelives? If Cunningham want's to "Evict" the Olympics, fine, he doesn't have to show up!! If he wants to protest peacefully & within the law, when Vanoc is doing something with the public, that's fine with me. To "evict" someone in any politicial or public ceremony, he can take his militant protest and return when he confront the issue's in a non threatening way. I won't listen to people who are confrontational, threatening or try to bully any issue, to make me listen??? Why would any other organization or person want to agree with Cunningham when its used with violence, and he should do community service or jail, to work off all damages & extra police, at any present & future events. This Guy needs to stay in Jail for awhile and find a peaceful way, its not working & getting tiring listening to his rants. Any Media with Cunningham is too much attention & feeding him for more publicity. | |
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