| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/20/2007 10:44:39 PM | David Hicks has been returned to Australia at the cost of some $500,000 AUD to serve out the remainder of his sentence of some 9 months in South Australia's toughest maximum security.
David Hicks - terrorist supporter, terrorist or just misjudged aussie bloke ?
Do you believe that Mr Hicks should have been returned to Australia for the remainder of his sentence considering that the same people Mr Hicks was training with could have place a terrorist attack on Australians in this country or anywhere in the world ?
Some information to consider - Mr Hicks left his wife and family to willingly travel overseas to train as part of a terrorist organisation and admitted to support such suport to this organisation for a number of years before being detained by the USA in Cuba for over 5 years. | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/20/2007 11:03:24 PM | he was captured early December 01
On March 26, 2007, it ACTUALLY went to court.
Hicks entered a guilty plea to the charge of providing material support for terrorism.
about bloody time...they charged him with something. !!
he is a d!ckhead clown who should learn to leave other countrys wars and problems to themselves. | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/20/2007 11:12:38 PM | | A David Hicks thread, with only 2 posts so far, and nobody yet calling anybody else names, and no complaints to the moderators....ok I admit I've been asleep all afternoon, but I didn't expect to wake up back in March sometime. Who moved time backwards?? C'mon, practical jokes on the recently awoken are never funny!! | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/20/2007 11:23:04 PM | Ha Ha Naaaaaaaaamah - ok well here is the news from your sleep.
Newtown have come back to ARL and won the Grandfinal.
Richmond have won the AFL Grandfinal against St Kilda
Paris Hilton is now a Soccer mum and drives a Tarago .................. and Peter Costello is still waiting to be the next PM.
I expect to hit some flack from this posting as this is a sensitive area and cause a donny brook today at lunch with some friends. | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/20/2007 11:39:06 PM | caves
i think u might fine Tommy boy was the 1/2 back.
And as for the tigers win the gran final i thought it would be a better chance than the cats  poor poor cats never the bride | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 12:14:20 AM | He was a wanna be terrorist as far as i can seen and free from gaol on 31 dec and i guess then we will find out what sought of misunderstandings if any................Scarey thought hes single i wonder if hes destined for POF | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 12:27:15 AM | | Should be shot with a ball of his own shit. But 5 years in camp x-ray was probably something similar. He made an error in judgement and thought being a terrorist would be more fun than shoplifting or drinking in public. He got it wrong. Can't wait to see him on Sunrise with Mel and Kochy. | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 1:39:27 AM | i would hardly call joining terrorists "an error in judgement"
an error in judgement is like taking a corner a little too fast or lending a friend a few bucks and he never pays you back.
Hicks is a terrorist and while i agree his case should have come up a lot sooner, he should serve his time over there. not have the Aussie taxpayer bring him back here for an easier life. | |
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Posted: 5/21/2007 2:01:38 AM | ^^^Errr..I made an error in judgement and thought the cynicism in my post was apparent...
He may have joined the Taliban. As far as he was concerned it was the Mujahideen. The organisation that had once been supported against the USSR by the US. I'd be betting you hadn't even heard of them (the Taliban) before 9/11. Yeah he made a mistake. He is guilty of joining the tribal militia that is responsible for 9/11. Sounds like an error in judgement to me. | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 5:22:38 AM | One thing that resounds in my mind is what the American prosecutor said.
Hicks is a "wanto be cowboy" A Simpleton who was never a threat to western troops.
Apparently , he couldn't hit the side of a barn with a stick.
He is given too much credit for his intelligence. He is actually Chevy Chase in disguise who thought he was going on a fun vacation.
The guy is a moron !!
And for that , he is guilty.
But guilty of what he is charged , is something only he knows.
Let's see if he has the passion and the intelligence when he is released , that you would need to leave your family and country to go join a bunch of loonies . | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 6:08:30 AM | I think the real issue with the Hicks situation was that he was detained for SO LONG without being charged. That disgusts me and is basically a breach of human/civil rights in my opinion.
Not to mention, he was in solitary confinement for the majority of that time with 15 minutes of exercise a day - again, without charge.
Now that he has been charged and found guilty and brought back to Australia, I think it's ridiculous getting p*ssed off about Australian taxpayers having to foot the bill for a mere 9 months or whatever it is.
What about all those a***holes in jail that have killed a large number of people and/or raped women and/or raped/molested children etc. Our taxpaying dollars are used on those people that deserve the gas chamber. What's a measly few months of food and accomodation for Hicks when compared to that? | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 6:16:03 AM | | Hicks was a spoilt brat who never grew up and there are alot of them about. Having said that I take my hat off to his father who has shown dignity and courage in his fight for his son.....not that the little so and so deserves it. | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 4:12:23 PM |
What a corporate media brainwashed lot you are!
I think i know where you are going with this Qlife147...and would like to know why you think so .you cant just make a half as$ed passing comment like that and not elaborate .
do tell..spare us nothing. | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 4:32:41 PM | David is another walter mitty, a small town boy who found adventure and easy money and "purpose" in life playing soldier for hire....does not mean he believed the ideology. Not saying that it is justifiable.
He just happen to conveniently fit a bunch of misfits easily pigeonholed as "terrorists". A terrorist in the classical sense is nothing like David Hicks. He is really no different to an Australian going to Aubaugne or Marsielle to sign up as a legionaire in the service of France. Except he chose the wrong outfit. A soldier of fortune follows the Jerry McGuire philosophy....show me the money!
Most of us will not agree with his choice in life like we do not agree with women getting pregnant at 16 and not finishing high school. At the end of the day, there was a travesty of justice. To an Aussie. Remember that folks.
While british and american mercenaries (yes he is but that, a mercenary not a terrorist...but we can debate that in another thread) got tried and set free in their respective countries, the "insignificant" aussie was allowed to languish in Guantanamo with no charge mind you and thank you so very much. And the best we can do to alleviate the guilt is to say "he deserved it" for fighting with the terrorists. No doubt he made wrong choices but to let him stay at Guantanamo was way to convenient in this political climate. Labels and brand names are everything especially in the right circles and occasion.
If the man did not get caught, he would have been shot by the militia, a trigger happy pimply 19 year old coalition soldier listening to "Seek & Destroy" by Metallica, or died in the desert for any illness with no medicare rebate. Jail is a much better alternative but hell, as an Australian, it is everybody's interest to have him brought over here and tried (or even a boot in the a***). If he was your son, brother, mate, you would wish the same. An Aussie who fell in the cracks.....and left there. Nice folks...very nice.
I tip my hat to his father. I wish mine was like that. Never giving up even if ridiculed, abused and the whole world against him. That my friends is love. Corny as that sounds to most of us here.....cos you know....we're hard as nails.
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 5:01:57 PM | | We all should become criminals then we all will be able to fly first class sitting on leather seats and enjoying a half a million trip on tax payers who have no choice in paying for it. Were he is now will be like a holiday camp compaired to were he was. I wouldnt wish that place on anyone. And who said saying your guilty gets you no were just look at him it got him back to australia and out of prision by christmas. Im guessing in about 2 yrs he will be married with a child on the way and me and others will still be here single and misterable | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 6:24:56 PM | If your skills are for hire and you know they are risky - you take the money for it to be a reward for you in some capacity.
Those blokes in Egypt that went to rescue the children of that Canadian woman knew the risks (they were arrested for kidnapping) and sadly were never there for the money - they do it for the freedom of bringing kids home to their rightful parents.
Yes I am aware of the Mujahdeen and the support by the USA in the fight agains the USSR invasian in the 80's but this is not freedom fighters fighting for their own land back - this is about people who are willing to do anything to ensure their affect is well documented in history without remorse.
The 5 years without trial is not right - but then again do terrorists or their supporters when they kill innocent people, consider what is right and wrong also ? As for isolation of the prisoners - these people are not school kids stealing lollies from the newspapers and are not going to tell you exactly what their next plan of attack is.
I have 2 friends working over in Iraq for a few months in the reconstruction process of the country. They know it is going to take many years but these are God fearing people who believe they are doing something for humanity (they are) but could be blown up with a single IED all for some ratbag to claim a victory over the Infidels. | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 6:34:15 PM |
The 5 years without trial is not right - but then again do terrorists or their supporters when they kill innocent people, consider what is right and wrong also
its more complex or far simple'r than that :)
no one should have to wait 5 yrs to go to trial..what if he was found innocent ..he would have served 5 years for nothing. sometimes we have to worry about the rights of murders and people like hicks to protect ourselves..its all about getting a fair go !
punishment is a whole different ball game. | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 10:49:13 PM |
Im guessing in about 2 yrs he will be married with a child on the way and me and others will still be here single and misterable
Try posting a piccie with a Carl Gustav 84mm Anti Tank Recoiless rifle on your shoulders and a Avtomat Kalashnikova 1947 Assault Rifle and you might get lucky....some people get turned on by that.
Me, I like a nice Mag 58. 
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/21/2007 11:28:46 PM | Glock 21 or Beretta 92f or me - but love the Beretta as it has the safety.
I guess whilst we have to protect the rights of the innocent until proven guilty we have our hands tied - but then to all those bodies like in Bali, New York and London ........ were there rights protected by these individuals who could limbo under a snake's buttocks ? | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/22/2007 1:30:06 AM | He actually found Islam in Adelaide. Went overseas to fight in Kosovo.
Ended up a taliban foot soldier fighting in a civil war and the COW decided to fight the other side.
He was in the Taliban before we decided they were persona non grata.
We got others leaving to fight for foriegn armies and those armies commit war crimes, Hicks aint the first nor the last.
Except it suited politicians to make an example of him in there little crusade.
Yet the same politicians dont treat AWB officials the same way, there crime was multiple murder and his jaywalking if you put it into perspective. | |
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| Re: David Hicks - terrorism or just misunderstood ?
Posted: 5/22/2007 1:43:58 AM | | I have freinds in Yatala Prison(prison officers) maybe they can forget to lock his door -and D blocks too...Harsh maybe ,reality check,absolutly.He"ll probably be out soon on some technacality knowing the way our system here works . | |
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