| | FORUMS: Deleting Threads for Redundancy has Got to Go[Closed/Redundant]Page 1 of 1 | I think allowing this is wrong and here is why:
1. If a topic has 5 responses or more, obviously it's something other people want to talk about to.
2. Just because some people have been here forever or live on the site, doesn't mean everyone does. To new people, these are fresh topics that they want to discuss. LET THEM.
3. If the topic is overdone, so what? Let it pass and fade like all the other old topics do. It will pass from your screen and be gone.
4. Deleting a newb's thread just because you think it's a tired subject can hurt their feelings and chase them away from doing it again.
5. If we aren't careful, the forums will become nothing but the same old tired people with the same old ideas: a land of cliques and exclusion. It will become a clique that new people don't feel welcome in. No one wants to hear 'oh THAT again' when they are discussing something that is new and of interest to them.
6. As everyone should know, the site will survive largely on new people. We don't want them to be afraid to post or maneuver around the site for fear they will be told what is the equivalent of "you idiot, that's a dumb/dead subject"
I understand that the site largely has to self police, so allowing people to delete based on being offensive or such with a 7/10 vote is understandable.
But deleting for redundancy? If you're an oldbie who has seen it done a thousand times, just don't read the dang thread. Don't respond. Move on. Leave people to discuss what they want.
Deleting for redundancy is offensive and exclusive. It angers me every time I see that people are trying to delete someone else's post for that reason. It's snobbish and cliquey and I really don't think that sort of thing needs to be on an othewise wonderful site.
I suspect some people do it simply for the thrill of feeling like a moderator or because they have the power to do it.
Bottom line: it has to go. | |
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| Deleting Threads for Redundancy has Got to Go
Posted: 5/26/2007 2:24:56 PM | ah but most people don't want to look up an old subject to respond to.
and again, we have to largely consider new people as they are sort of the lifeblood of the site and an ever overturning crowd
who wants to dig up an old post to comment on it when it was last dated 5/14/06? | |
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| Deleting Threads for Redundancy has Got to Go
Posted: 5/26/2007 2:40:28 PM | That's okay wingedstar, if you do spend the time and make a search of the threads and find a topic that you wish to add to, the same ones that complain about redundant topics will be the ones complaining about bringing up old dead threads.
There are a few self appointed forum police that patrol the threads instead of constructively participating. I think it is great that we denizens of the forums can help keep the place running smoothly by reporting true infractions of the rules, however there are those for whom the Sword of Moderation is something devoutly to be wished. I'm sure they increase the workload of the true moderators manyfold without a corresponding increase in forum efficiency. | |
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| Deleting Threads for Redundancy has Got to Go
Posted: 5/26/2007 2:40:55 PM |
who wants to dig up an old post to comment on it when it was last dated 5/14/06?
You are missing your point, -- you use that thread and post your own specific question, thoughts, etc. , it puts it back up on the list, and people see your post and date and respond from there.
If everyone always started new, we would have hundreds of topics on the same thing, even at the same time, all with a couple-no responses. Why not help help a free sites band width down? Searching is importing. It saves space, showed the user tried, etc.
The one thing I notice (I have only been here a few months) is that sometimes people respond to what you are asking WITHIN another thread. They know of "that" thread and therefore voted to delete it. Unless you ahve a nice POF's they will sometimes post the URL of the thread for you to go back to and start there.
Otherwise, you can search and search by topic and even though it may have been addressed at some point on the forum, it isn't listed by that title/s you search for.
That is the frustrating part. | |
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| Deleting Threads for Redundancy has Got to Go
Posted: 5/26/2007 3:14:36 PM | I understand not bogging it down, but then why not just delete the old threads that the people have moved on long ago.
Again, we have to consider newbs to the site - many of which don't understand the computer itself all that much. | |
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| Deleting Threads for Redundancy has Got to Go
Posted: 5/26/2007 10:18:49 PM | It might be helpful to look at other models. I'm thinking of usenet ("google groups" is googles name for it). It's been going since 1974 and lots of topics get repeated - with new information.
I've been on the net since 86 and I have to say I don't understand what is so terrible about redundant threads? Rather than state the obvious reasons why that restriction should be lifted, and in this age of stupid cheap disk space is there really a reason to prohibit redundant threads any more?
You can start two identical threads on the same subject at the same time and you'll get two different dynamics. I just don't get it... | |
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| Deleting Threads for Redundancy has Got to Go
Posted: 5/27/2007 4:16:29 AM | | I so agree with the original poster and with rsx. For example, just about every subject with regards to dating has been discussed but fresh people can bring a fresh slant and energy. And a thread is self perpetuating anyway. If no one is interested, no one will post! As for the system clogging up, I just checked out one thread which started in February 2005 - and the last post was in 2005! Threads should be deleted either after a certain time or after a period of inactivity or both. The present system is nonsense. | |
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| Deleting Threads for Redundancy has Got to Go
Posted: 7/31/2007 1:38:17 PM |
Threads should be deleted either after a certain time or after a period of inactivity or both. The present system is nonsense.
I agree. 3 is apparently the magic number in regards to the cutoff. If that's the case, there's a slew of "why are all women/why are all men" and "why do nice guys get nothing" type threads in the other forums that probably fall into the catergory of "redundant" as well, yet they remain open. In addition, I can't help but be amused when people bring "zombie threads" (thread topics which are dead and buried for months or, in the case here, years) back to life and respond to the original poster who has either forgotten or abandoned their thread, or has left POF all together. | |
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| Deleting Threads for Redundancy has Got to Go
Posted: 7/31/2007 1:57:46 PM | 1. If a topic has 5 responses or more, obviously it's something other people want to talk about to.
If its Off-Topic it goes.
This is a Forum, Threads are not based on Popularity.
2. Just because some people have been here forever or live on the site, doesn't mean everyone does. To new people, these are fresh topics that they want to discuss. LET THEM.
Newbies will concern themselves with the Rules before they'll get much posting in. Creation of new Threads requires a Waiting period of 3 Days.
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3. If the topic is overdone, so what? Let it pass and fade like all the other old topics do. It will pass from your screen and be gone.
Anyone who wants to comment on the same Topic should search out an existing Thread instead of making a new one. In this Way, the 'Search' Functions permit a User to locate and read any Topic of Interest.
4. Deleting a newb's thread just because you think it's a tired subject can hurt their feelings and chase them away from doing it again.
Newbie is irrelevant. Learn the Ropes or ship out.
5. If we aren't careful, the forums will become nothing but the same old tired people with the same old ideas: a land of cliques and exclusion.
Non-Sense.
6. As everyone should know, the site will survive largely on new people. We don't want them to be afraid to post or maneuver around the site for fear they will be told what is the equivalent of "you idiot, that's a dumb/dead subject"
Read the Rules and various Guides how to post, it takes less than an Hour to do so
Learn how to Search, not an Issue.
But deleting for redundancy? If you're an oldbie who has seen it done a thousand times, just don't read the dang thread. Don't respond. Move on. Leave people to discuss what they want.
Nothing to do with Reading. A thousand Threads on the same Topic impair the 'Search' Functions, which are vital for oversight. There is no need for that.
Deleting for redundancy is offensive and exclusive. It angers me every time I see that people are trying to delete someone else's post for that reason. It's snobbish and cliquey and I really don't think that sort of thing needs to be on an othewise wonderful site.
Irrelevant.
I suspect some people do it simply for the thrill of feeling like a moderator or because they have the power to do it.
Pay special Attention to the: "Unknowing": Forums: Restorations of the Forums
Bottom line:
It stays.
ah but most people don't want to look up an old subject to respond to.
Then they won't be here very long ... Laziness Boulevard is a short Stretch around here.
I understand not bogging it down, but then why not just delete the old threads that the people have moved on long ago.
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