| Introduction of Islam
Posted: 5/28/2007 12:57:24 PM | The literal meaning of Islam is peace; surrender of one’s will i.e. losing oneself for the sake of God and surrendering one’s own pleasure for the pleasure of God. The message of Islam was revealed to the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings on him) 1, 400 years ago. It was revealed through angel Gabriel (on whom be peace) and was thus preserved in the Holy Quran. The Holy Quran carries a Divine guarantee of safeguard from interpolation and it claims that it combines the best features of the earlier scriptures.
The prime message of Islam is the Unity of God, that the Creator of the world is One and He alone is worthy of worship and that Muhammad (peace and blessings on him) is His Messenger and Servant. The follower of this belief is thus a Muslim - a Muslim’s other beliefs are: God’s angels, previously revealed Books of God, all the prophets, from Adam to Jesus (peace be on them both), the Day of Judgement and indeed the Decree of God. A Muslim has five main duties to perform, namely; bearing witness to the Unity of God and Muhammad (peace and blessings on him) as His Messenger, observing the prescribed prayer, payment of Zakat, keeping the fasts of Ramadhan and performing the pilgrimage to Mecca.
Islam believes that each person is born pure. The Holy Quran tells us that God has given human beings a choice between good and evil and to seek God’s pleasure through faith, prayer and charity. Islam believes that God created mankind in His image and by imbuing the attributes of God on a human level mankind can attain His nearness. Islam’s main message is to worship God and to treat all God’s creation with kindness and compassion. Rights of parents in old age, orphans and the needy are clearly stated. Women’s rights were safeguarded 1,400 years ago when the rest of the world was in total darkness about emancipation. Islamic teachings encompass every imaginable situation and its rules and principles are truly universal and have stood the test of time.
In Islam virtue does not connote forsaking the bounties of nature that are lawful. On the contrary one is encouraged to lead a healthy, active life with the qualities of kindness, chastity, honesty, mercy, courage patience and politeness. In short, Islam has a perfect and complete code for the guidance of individuals and communities alike. As the entire message of Islam is derived from the Holy Quran and indeed the Sunnah and Hadith (the traditions and practices of the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings on him) it is immutable in the face of change in time and place. It may appear rigid to the casual eye, in actual fact it is most certainly an adaptable way of life regardless of human changes.
Islam teaches that the path to spiritual development is open to all. Any individual who searches the One Creator can seek nearness to God through sincere and earnest worship; it is central to establishing a relationship with the Almighty. This positive message for humanity fills hearts with hope and courage.
At present there are 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide and they form the majority in more than 50 countries of the world. Today Islam is the fastest growing faith in the world - its beautiful message is reaching millions in the far corner of the earth. | |
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| Introduction of Islam
Posted: 5/28/2007 4:00:10 PM | Technically the word Islam means submission or cooperation with Allah and that is something we are all in varying degrees of doing thus making us technically all Muslims first.
Each religion and that absence of one are signs of the evolution of Islam and each is a valid path from which to choose, Islam being the process and the religions or lack of one being the recipes used to create an end product ie hopefully a good person.
Allah guides whom He will to the right path and each person is free to choose which Islamic recipe they want ie Christian, Jewish etc.
So technically there are 10 or more Billion Muslims actually Brother!
We are Messengers for Allah and He tests us with revealations of knowledge and we are tested like Moses on the Mountian, Jesus in the Desert, Mohammed PBUH in the Caves and Buddha under the Bodhi tree in our daily lives let our legacies be as lasting and as wonderful. Inshallah a great sorting out into Education, Counseling and Consultation groups to learn the skills we need to be the best voice for Allah!
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| Introduction of Islam
Posted: 5/28/2007 4:44:15 PM | This post has about the same relevance that an idealized description of christianity holds for me.
In theory Islam is a religion of peace, but JUST like christianity, in practice it is a religion of conquest and thought supression. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 9:18:20 PM | | I have in hand a few quotes that you may want to look at:enforcement of Islam 48:28-29, 58:21, 59:2-4, 59:5-7. There are more as follows: slaughter of unbelievers 8:12-13, 17. Here are some more, Militant action 2:216, 2:217, 8:38-39, 9:5, 9:29, 9:123, 47:4. Here's a real good one,4:88-91 executing resistors of the Muslim armies. Here are some social ones 3:28, 3:118, 4:144, 5:54, 6:159, 60:1,8-9. These ones deal with human rights, specifically the rights of women 37:149-155, 2:223, 2:228, 2:282, 4:11, 4:176 4:3, 4:24. There are many, many more inconsistencies in the Quran as in the Bible, and other religions. I took the time to see each of these for myself and they do exist. I make only the same comment here as one I made in another post in relation to fearing God. I do NOT fear God, but I DO fear and mistrust religions that practice hypocrisy and barbarism in the name of the eternal. And that folks means ANY religion which claims to be the one and only conduit to enlightenment. Comments? Also be assured I do not condemn anyone for their belief, but will Not stand by and let self serving religious propaganda be spread without facing it and asking what is the REAL agenda behind all this? Let the WHOLE truth be known, let people decide for themselves and at the end of the day hopefully, common sense will prevail. | |
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Posted: 5/28/2007 11:15:50 PM | Thats right if the Koran and Islam was a faith of peace then why did Mohammed spend his early years with his followers raiding the Pagan Caravan? Why did he call his faith peace when he march on his hometown of Mecca and destory all the pagan idols? Also the verse 9-29 states this:
Fight those who dont belive in Allah or the last day. Those who pratice that Allah has forbiden, those who dont acknowlege the faith of truth agmost the people of the book (Christians and Jews) until they pay the Jiza (poll tax) and feel themselves subdued.
Also Jihad is a struggle, but there is no term that cant be used to discibe what Jihad is. It can be war, yes it can be, many a moslem had said so themselves but it could also be a Jihad on cleaning up a room, a Jihad on eating healthy foods etc. But dont for one minute think that Jihad cant be twisted to the ends of a radical and not get away with it.
Also many say Islam was made because Christianity veer off course so to speak and that many a Christain took preists and bishops as their lord (as stated in the Koran) and also took advantage of God's forgiveness (hence in the Koran it says that God is often mericful and often kind rather and all kind and all forgiving in the bible) and yet Jesus said that if we luke warm we shall be casted out. Islam also belives sins like adultry can be forgiven after death, I mean thats just wrong and this all came from reading the Koran from front to back. What a book. | |
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Posted: 5/29/2007 3:19:15 PM | The literal meaning of Islam is peace; surrender of one’s will i.e. losing oneself for the sake of God and surrendering one’s own pleasure for the pleasure of God.
Sounds like brian-washing to me. Its funny how its said god wants us to have freewill. Could he actually be a lair? Jews Christains and Muslims, believe in the same god, and yet they fight over wich version of him is better.
They all claim their god is one of peace, but lust for war. Yes each faction wants peace, but only after the others are dead or converted. All of their their versions of God are a monstrous dictators that make Saddam Hussein look like a Teddy-bear.
With their versions of god, who needs Satan? | |
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Posted: 5/29/2007 6:29:40 PM | Salam Alaikoam Peace be with you
Actually Islam is the root process and each religion or lack of one are different recipes for making an end product a good person.
Each religion or recipe employs similar ingredients and a few different or new ones and similar baking times for a good end product!
Each of us is a Messenger or ie baker, cook, carpenter, macanic and to be the best cook, baker, machanic etc we need excellence in education, counseling and consultation so we can learn the skills in being the best person or ie the best baker, the best machanic etc.
There is nothing to fight over each religion has both good and negative we must cut out the negative
As an example a negative thing if you are a cook or a baker is if you do not wash your hands, if your a machanic if you do not grease your nuts and bolts | |
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Posted: 5/30/2007 1:46:19 AM | Muhammed (may faecal matter be upon him) was nothing but a sick paedophile who married a six years old child
That must be what made Michael Jackson convert to Islam!! | |
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Posted: 5/30/2007 5:07:34 AM | Peace Be upon you!
You know very little about Islam.
At the time of the Prophet Mohmmed PBUH there was extreem lawlessness and many children were orphaned and many woman were widowed, Mohammed PBUH did not take any new wives until after the passing of his first wife Khadija and they had many years together and he supported her in her buisness and acted as merchant for her.
It was Khadija that encouraged him to speak and act on his vision after he shook for three days in his bed.
As for the girl he married at age nine he never had relations with her until she was in puberty or older.
It was not uncommon if a man could afford it to marry more than one wife and seeing as there was always war going on there were many widows that needed support.
The difference between Mohammed and pedofiles is that Mohammed did go around looking for children to exploit he had excellent relationship with Khadija and later with his other wives he was not sick to go with children.
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Posted: 5/30/2007 10:03:02 AM | | ummm.....just for clarification of the above post.....muhammad married his *child bride* Aisha when she was 6 years old....she was NOT an orphan....he received *permission* to marry her from her parents......and according to Aisha, the marriage was consummated when she was 9 years old....whether or not she had reached puberty at 9 years of age does NOT change that fact....a fact most muslims like to skip over and tend to avoid like the plague....and no, I do not particularily have anything against islam....no more so than I do against say, christianity or any other cult...er... I mean religion......and certainly nothing against the people who follow it, but I do wish people would educate themselves and do a little bit of research as to what they choose to believe in......and who they decide to *worship*. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2007 10:06:36 AM | | well said old soul, but the problem with all these faith, and Islam is really guilty of this is that they admit they dont read the Koran. Many moslems I have talked too got upset when I reavealed these verses but admits they didnt read the Koran to really understand what I was talking about. I read the bible on a daily and the Koran. Sad isnt it? | |
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Posted: 5/30/2007 10:32:56 AM |
An Israeli
Oops, you'd probably have been better off sounding like a random bitter, hate-filled person than to reveal your personal agenda. Oh well. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2007 6:08:47 PM | Perhaps Music if we lived somewhere where ALL the people around us wanted us dead we might not have a very liberal attitude either. To add to my post there are several places online where one can go and check out some very revealing things. Especially disturbing are the articles about the spread of Islam and the subsequent hijacking of secular governments by the Imams. I have NO problem with people's beliefs, but when they are forced upon me............................I will resist with everything I am to make sure it doesn't happen.
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| Introduction of Islam
Posted: 5/30/2007 6:13:34 PM | I repeat....Islam is supposedly a religion of peace.
But they suppress thought. Suppress women's rights. Suppress human rights. Suppress scientific advancements. Support terrorist actions. Encourage conversion by the sword. The list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
Your idealized version of your religion is simply NOT what is being shown to the rest of the world by your most vocal "faithful". Then again, I suppose they really are faithful because they will KILL and DIE for their beleifs.
Quote all the scripture you want too, but actions speak FAR louder than your quoting of an antiquated book. Much like the people that yammer bibilcal scripture in response to just about any comment. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2007 8:22:00 PM | I repeat....Islam is supposedly a religion of peace.
TRUE, BUT THERE ARE MANY SITES THAY SAY MOHAMMED FAITH WAS HIJACKED AND TURNED INTO A BOOK OF LIES AND MOHAMMED WAS LOOKING FOR A MORE ABSTRACT AND NON STRUCTURED FAITH THAN WHAT ISLAM IS TODAY.
But they suppress thought.
UNLESS ITS SOMETHING THEY CAN USE TO THEIR OWN MEANS, DID YOU KNOW THE BAATH PARTY WAS ACTALLY OF CHRISTIAN ORGINS? WHEN THE MOSLEMS SAW THIS THEY HIJACKED IT FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES AND KEEP THEMSELVES IN POWER, THE HISTORY IS THE MIDDLE EAST IS ONE SUCH EXSAMPLE.
Suppress women's rights.
TRUE, IN THE KORAN IT SAYS THAT A WOMAN TESTAMONY IN COURT IS WORTH HALF OF A MAN'S. IN ORDER TO PROVE A WOMAN HAS BEEN RAPED EITHER 2 MEN OR 4 WOMEN MUST OF ACTALLY SEEN THE RAPE IN ACTION IN ORDER TO PROVE THE CLAIM.
Suppress human rights.
AGAIN TRUE, AND RATHER STRANGE, IT WAS A MOSLEM WHO INVENTED HUMANS RIGHTS AND YET THEY ARE THE LEAST OF ALL NATIONS TO USE IT. AS FAR AS FAITH IS CONCERNED IN SAUDI ARABIA THERE CAN BE OTHER HOLY TEMPLES, BOOKS, OR EVEN ICONS OF ANY OTHER FAITH BESIDES ISLAM, IF YOU WERE CAUGHT WITH A BIBLE COMING INTO SAUDI ARABIA, IT WOULD BE TAKEN AWAY AND SOMETIMES EVEN TORN UP IN YOUR FACE. ALL ABOUT MAKING SURE THOSE NON ISLAMIC PEOPLES REMAIN SUBDUED ACCORDING TO CHAPTER 9 VERSE 29 IN THE KORAN.
Suppress scientific advancements.
TRUE, MANY OF THE INVENTIONS OF THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAS INSPRIERED OR EVEN TAKEN AWAY FROM CHRISTIANS AND OTHER FAITHS AND THEN MADE INTO AN ISLAMIC INVENTION, ZERO, UNIVERSITIES, ETC ARE ALL EITHER TAKEN FROM NON ISLAMIC INVENTORS OR HAVE BEEN INVENTED ALREADY BUT WAS UNKNOWN AT THE TIME THERE WAS ANOTHER OF THESE INVENTIONS IN THE WORLD, EVEN THE CHRISTIANS ARE GUILTY OF THIS SOMTIMES BUT IT WAS MORE CULTURAL.
Support terrorist actions.
90% OF ALL MOSLEMS CONDEM TERRORISM AS AN ACTION BUT IN THE US A POLL WAS TAKEN AND THE RESULTS SHOW 1 IN 4 MOSLEMS IN THE USE SUPPORT TERRORIST (HUMAN BOMBS FOR ONE) ACTIONS IF ALL OTHER EFFORTS FAIL TO GET WHAT THEY WANT.
Encourage conversion by the sword.
DESPITE SOME ISOLATED INCIDENTS IN HISTORY THIS IS FALSE IN MANY WAYS, ONE IT IS AGINST THE KORAN TO FORCE PEOPLE INTO CONVERSION AS THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN FAITH, BUT THE JIZA TAX AND DAILY HUMILIATIONS AS WELL AS CODES AND REGULATIONS ALL NON ISLAMIC FAITHS MUST FOLLOW WAS RATHER BAD AND IN LEBANON FORCED MANY CHRISTIANS INTO RENOUCING THEIR FAITH AND EMBRACING ISLAM. THE GOAL WAS TO MAKE LIFE HELL FOR THE COMMONERS LIVING IN ISLAMIC LANDS IN ORDER TO ENCORAGE THEM TO CONVERT. ONLY IF A POPULATION REFUSED THE OFFER TO EMBRACE ISLAM AND LIVING AS A SUBDUED PEOPLE WOULD IT BE OK FOR THE MOSLEMS TO KILL THEM IN BATTLE.
The list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
INDEED IT DOES BUT YOU NEED PROOF LIKE i HAVE PUT IN ORDER TO HAVE A STRONG ARGUMENT, WHATS FUNNY IS THOUGH AFTER WE HAVE PUT OUT ALL THESE REASON i DONT SEE A SINGLE MOSLEMS COMING HERE TO DEFEND THESE ACTIONS.
Your idealized version of your religion is simply NOT what is being shown to the rest of the world by your most vocal "faithful". Then again, I suppose they really are faithful because they will KILL and DIE for their beleifs.
Quote all the scripture you want too, but actions speak FAR louder than your quoting of an antiquated book. Much like the people that yammer bibilcal scripture in response to just about any comment. | |
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Posted: 5/30/2007 9:43:43 PM | Im not against islam, jewism, or christanity...im against giving someone or something i dont know power. I soon rather empower myself and carve out my own future then surrender my will to some invisible super being.
IMHO, i take what i like from all the practices and make it my own. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2007 2:56:54 AM | Salam Alaikoam
Islam the word means submission or cooperation and we are free to choose our own recipe ie religion or spiritual practices it is all Islam or ie a process of acknowledgeing Allah, God the Creator in yourself, the family, the community, the nation and the world and respect everyone regardless of race, religion etc for we are all one Ummah, one Group.
I am tired or I would write more!
Salam
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Posted: 6/1/2007 5:20:50 AM | Yeah Islam is a religion of hate and intolerance of all they don't agree with.
I'm sure they would kill me for the above sentence, so that make them hypocrites too.
Religion of peace my eye... | |
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Posted: 6/1/2007 9:02:48 AM | Wisdom,
The how come we Dhimmi peoples must pay taxes and follow restrictions put down by Islam just because we dont acknowelge the faith of truth?
You are right about Islam meaning submission or cooperation and they dont want you to get in their way. I mean look at the middle east today...
1. In egypt you forfit all rights as a citizen if you covert to Christianity from Islam
2. Your ID card never changes so if anyone finds out you have coverted from Islam to Christanity, it is likely you will suffer for it.
3. Islamic temples are being build around the world and even in the heart of the Christian "empire" in Rome and yet Islam wont allow a single church to be build in Mecca and often in those nations any remaining churchs can only preform the slightest repair (fixing a toilet for example) with a presidental decree.
4. Non islamic populations are forced to abide by Islamic rules
5. Moslems in the near east are famous for hiding in churches from the Isrealis yet all hell would brake loose if a chrisitain hid in a moquse.
6. Islamic media teaches childern that Jews are Apes and Pigs and Christians are ploytheisits and are infedles and we say nothing about and then when we present cartoons half a world away about Islam, they riot and choose a christian part of the major city in Lebanon to have their riot.
7. In Palestine, a Moslem woman and a Christian man fall and love and the moslem get pregent and upon hearing of her affair with an Dhimma, forces her to drink poison to death and then rounds up a mod of family and friends and sacks the christain village loot many houses and setting them on fire.
8. Islam does say you are free to choose your faith but Islam will always be at the top and those who reject the faith are made to be second class citizens.
9. If one rejects Islam and the Dhimmi status they are to be kill according to the Koran
10. Last but not least, a student of mine almost lost her head when she converted to the Christian faith from Islam, her family wanted to cut off her head because of her choice.
If you read the Koran, all of these facts are not aginst the Koran at all. | |
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Posted: 6/1/2007 12:12:36 PM | Salam Alaikoam
I believe the whole world and universe are in varying states of submission (To God not Man) or cooperation making us all Muslims first each of us is fdree to choose our own path and each religion is an expression of the evolution of Islam.
In this we are all part of one Group, one Ummah (Arabic word for group) and it is time we set aside differences, forgave the past and forged a new future together.
We have to sort out into Education, Counseling and Counsultation groups to learn the people skills we need to be a good voice for Allah and good gaurdians for ourselves and one another.
In the groups sorted out we can learn parenting and relationship skills, anger management skills, good conflict resolution skills as well as sort into groups to volunteer our time to learn the skills such as patience, compassion, empathy, tolerance in groups like services for the elderly, the youth, the disabled.
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Posted: 6/1/2007 1:33:33 PM | You know the commies dubed the leftwingers "useful idiots". Try not to be one for Islam!
They hate our way of life, they want to destroy us. There is no separation of church and state.
Woman are not a mans equal in the Muslim world, not even socially.
Mutual assured destruction will not work with these fanatics,
because they are activly working hard to bring in the "end time" and force gods hand.
Islam fanaticisim has become much more mainstream.
The fact that Bush called Islam a "religion of peace" , should tell you its a political lie.
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Posted: 6/1/2007 6:53:54 PM | Wisdom
You cannot say we are all moslems, some of us belive in God, some of us Belive in God and accept Jesus as the Messiah, and some accept God and acknowlege Mohammed as prophet, even after it said in the bible that no other prophet will come and to be on the watch for false prophets.
Wisdom, do you know what Allah said to fight those who do not acknowlege the faith of truth agmost the people of the book? | |
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Posted: 6/2/2007 5:20:15 PM | I believe the whole world and universe are in varying states of submission (To God not Man) or cooperation making us all Muslims first each of us is fdree to choose
I can't beleive I missed that, WTF is wrong with you lady? Do you think that rolling over to islam by adopting their ideas will appease them and bring peace to the world?
I'd rather die than pray to their Allah! Speak for yourself lady, but don't include the rest of us in your analogy. Have you head of an athiest? they don't believe in any god.
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| Introduction of Islam
Posted: 6/2/2007 5:48:16 PM | Well Islam teaches that everyone is a muslim in their deepest soul. Basically you are born muslim and then lose your way.
Coincidently, everyone is hindu too. Wheeee, that makes christians a member of 3 religions at the same time. Where is the damn CONVICTION!!!!!!!!!!! | |
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Posted: 6/2/2007 6:08:26 PM | | Imho I think the best thing to do with this thread is,to ask CASSANDRA777 if she has a couple of hours to spare to enlighten op and wisdim2000 with her views on Islam.For what its worth a follower of satan cant say or type the word Jesus,so i dont think CASSANDRA is on the other side,a bit young in the lord i think thats all.Jack rez that was one of the bravest speaches ive ever heard,if youre still with us.I really do hope CASSANDRA that you will join in on this. | |
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