| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 6/8/2007 6:13:21 AM | | Ok all you Las Vegans...what do you think about all the highrises going up on the strip?? Is it losing its glamour and glitz??? For me I really do hate it Las Vegas is just not the same as it use to be...geez, why did they take wet and wild out(oh yea money) when they were always packed, now that makes sense...the strip is no fun anymore to me, but I do like the way Oscar is cleaning up the downtown area | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 6/8/2007 1:30:49 PM | How long have you lived here ?
It's always changing and always will, that's part of the mystique.
People come back after 2 years and they marvel at how it's changed.
No matter how big the casinos get or how many rooms they build, they still sell out every weekend.
Amazing, the Mirage is considered an " older " property.
It really wasn't any more glamorous 20 years ago than it is today and I've been here almost 30 years. | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 6/8/2007 2:46:58 PM | Ive lived here for 27 years and have been coming here for 35 years since my family owns major business's here.....awww to each there own when it comes to opinions | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 6/13/2007 10:00:07 PM | I first moved here in February, 1974 and it was a much different place than it is now.
There were no home West of the I-15, except in the downtown area.
W. Tropicana Ave and W. Spring Mtn Road were 2 lanes and ended at S. Decatur.
W. Flamingo Road did not exsist.
The original MGM was not open yet.
I saw Frankie Valie and the Four Seasons in the Lounge of the Flamingo Hotel for $5 and it included 2 drinks.
The ticket price to see Elvis at the Hilton was around $15-20 and included 2 drinks.
The tallest building was the Las Vegas Hilton.
There was nothing south of the Tropicana Hotel on the strip, except the airport.
You could get a breakfast, including coffee, for $.49 at the Silver Slipper (a hotel that was next to the Frontier Hotel, which didn't have a hotel tower).
The whole town had only 225,000 people.
If you went to DI & Boulder Highway, you were in the desert.
Spring Valley was the first big housing development west of the I-15.
If you were in a gang, you were in the Mob!
You could walk the streets at night and not worry about crime (the mob made sure the town was safe).
You could buy a nice 3 bedroom house with a 2 car garage for about $29,000.
Homes in Green Valley, on the Green Valley golf course, were starting at $35-40,000.
I believe the gas prices were around $.35 a gallon.
The I-15 route was poorly laid out and had to do with special interests wanting the highway to go the way that it did. The same is true for the 215 Beltway plan and layout.
The airport has outgrown it's space and a new airport should be built as quickly as possible, put on the fast track.
Allowing developers to block off streets, so their developments have a few more homes, has caused major issues with getting around town. Many of the alternate routes become dead ends.
Road planning stinks and the RTC - "FAST" traffic signals are not in sync to keep traffic moving.
All trucks should be banned fromthe left 2 lanes on I-15. They tear up the roads, drop stuff and think their the only ones on the road.
We don't have enough water for all the building and they keep saying you can't have an economy based on endless growth. They jack up the water rates to make you conserve water, not because it costs more to deliver it.
Growth is not paying for itself. Everyone is paying for the new growth through increases in utility rates - electric, gas and water.
It's getting to be time to move out to a smaller town.
How's that for starters? | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 6/13/2007 10:41:56 PM | | Thank you Lou, I wanted to know how people thought...geez I know its constantly changing NIP....but I asked specific questions regarding the high rises and such...some people always just pic what they want to read and hear....Lou, I am with you its gotten to big and crayzee too much for the rich and not the mediocre people to come and play | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 6/14/2007 10:49:23 AM | There is an underlying feeling that they are trying to push out anyone who doesn't make at least $100,000 a year.
Any sort of affordable housing is almost impossible to find.
Pretty soon, the casino workers will have to commute from Pahrump every day cause they can't afford to live in Vegas.
Wages have gone nowhere in the last 30 years. People are still working for jobs that pay the same they paid in 1980.
The downside of the big casinos is that they tempted more people to move here.
50,000 people lined up for 1000 jobs.
We should have built a fence around the whole town in 1984 and told everyone " You can visit but you can't stay ". | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 6/14/2007 10:26:13 PM |
....but I asked specific questions regarding the high rises and such...
The high rises are for the rich. If you bring in $150,000 a year, I don't see how you can afford to live in one. Those payments are going to kill you with interst rates still going up.
I suspect the majority of the the high rise purchases are done by investors.
They rent them out and make someone else pay for them. When it is paid off, they can retire in one. Or, they can sell them off and make a nice profit.
High rises remind me too much of New York City. 
That's why I moved out here to the open spaces which, are not so open anymore.
The construction dust is in the air every day and the EPA is doing nothing to help keep the air clean in Las Vegas and corruption in the government agencies is way out of hand. To me it looks like, given enough $$$$$ anyone can be bought in this town. It's just a matter of how much will it cost! The bribe money is just a part of doing business in Las Vegas, as they say.
Yep! Bring in all those suckers from out of town. Take their money, their homes, their cars, have them run up a pile of debt and then send them packing from whence they came. You don't build these casinos and high rises on your money but, you do it with other peoples money.
Remember, Vegas is based on a "Growth" economy.
You have to keep growing - more homes, more condos, more construction projects, etc. - to keep ahead of the cliff ahead. It's like Social Security - the younger people are paying for the current retirees, the Social Security bank of retirement money is a sham. I just listened to a lecture on Social Security by their PR person last week and was told - "Social Security was never ment to be a retirement fund".
.......... Sorry...... went off topic for a bit there. 
High rises are good for the construction trade  and the real estate people selling the condos. 
They make their money, then spend it in the casinos and bars  . Or they buy them big pickup trucks and SUV's to drive to work and tailgate you  out on the highways while talking on their cell phones  or text messaging.
Is it good for Las Vegas in the long run?
I don't think so.........
I will step down off my soap box now...... .......... | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 6/17/2007 4:51:50 PM | Well it all depends on how you look at things. Anyone who has lived in Vegas for a long time, prior to the boom, has seen things change. I've been here 5 yrs and have seen drastic changes. I think they are all for the better. Vegans have a rare opportunity to experience what it's like to live in a city that is constantly growing and changing and re-defining itself. I think it's exciting.
There is so much opportunity and possibility here. Sorry but progress continues to march on. There's nothing you can do to stop it. If you don't like the changes and are no longer happy living here than move. I'm tired of the negative complainers who don't like living in Vegas.
No one should live anywhere where they are unhappy. And as far as longing for the "good ol' days" eh... quit living in the past. It wasn't all that fabulous anyway.
I personally would rather live in a bigger city, which Vegas is still relatively small compared to other cities I have lived in, and like to see what will continue to happen here. I don't associate with people who are unhappy here. I don't need that negativity in my life. Vegas is great. And for now... it suits me fine.
Viva Las Vegas!  | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 6/17/2007 6:05:57 PM | | To each his own..if you read, I specifically asking about the high rises....oh, and unfortunately I can not move at this time, but I did get my son out of here and into a definately better school district...everyone has their own opinion about Vegas btw..I do like the fact I dont have to drive far to be in the mountains, be by the lake, not have to worry about earthquakes, tornados or hurricanes....so dont jump down my throat about people being negative, if you dont like it dont read it...sheesh | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 6/27/2007 6:24:41 PM | | I'm new to Vegas but have had family here for years. Seems to me that change has allways been a big part of this communitee. | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 7/15/2007 12:31:54 PM | I am not fond of Vegas anymore, I am 36 and have been coming here since the 70's as a tourist. I moved here in 2000 and I have noticed that over these past few years the customer service has gotten bad, the club scene is all about celeberities, wealthy people, some bad bouncers, not the music and dancing as it should be,nd over priced rent and houseing. This is become a play ground for the wealthy and the attitude that comes with that is what makes it bad. I am not down on rich people, my family is rich, it's the attitude. I am moving away soon as I have had enough of the rotten attitude. I have seen to many stories of bad things happening to people, like the Venitian incident where someones motor home got stolen and the Venitian didn't care. People come here to spend money and have fun, but it seems like this town cares more about the MONEY then the people spending it to keep this town alive, with out toruists this town dies. Not to mention most slots are a $1 instead of 25c, lame, but I did see a guy win a $1000 on a wheel of fortune at Bills Casino, that was a dollar machine, but he spent almost all of his $100 to do it, take care.
P.S: It cares about the wealthy tourists as well as the money. Vegas used to be a great place, it's why I moved here. | |
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Posted: 7/17/2007 11:00:41 AM | *gasp* they took wet n wild out?? (i went there once.. my bikini top fell off when i got to the bottom.. so i figured that would be my last time going.. ) .. y would they do that for??.. i had lived in vegas back in 98-99.. absolutely loved it there!.. not so much for gambling (only did that once while i lived there).. but there were always concerts going on..
i can`t get over that they have added highrises to the strip..  .. i really need to get back there & c the changes!.. .. i prolly wouldn`t even to find my house any longer there.. .. | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 7/17/2007 1:48:57 PM | | Unless you're 21 and older, you can't really do anything, I think it sucks, ask me again in like 3 years, and a couple of months. | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 7/19/2007 11:24:49 AM | | I moved to Vegas in 1994. I have met some wonderful people since living here. I do have many great friends. Many people come from all over and dod not know how to adapt to change. I do miss California> It can be difficult dealing with people from all over. | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 8/26/2007 11:12:38 PM | Here is the perspective of a four day trip, just completed to-day and got my feet back on to cool soil in Alberta!!
Th e"town" is a never end glitter of lights, with the casinos all aglitter and drink prices for the same liquor being anywhere from 3.00 to 12.00. That is one thing I found to be a pain!!
My companions, in one place, ordered beers, I got my usual scoth/rocks/and a touch of 7-up (or sprite). The scotch was 3.00 cheaper than the beers, go figure!!
The under construction City Center will be something to see when it is complete, and I think all the 'condos' being built there will be more for the influx of Asian and South Seas visitors that will be having their prince pay the way. They are used to the heat that has been predominantly there the last little while. The low during the last four days was to-day, and only cause there was a bit of cloud cover.
I come back when the construction has slowed down, but I want a local to show me the 'nice' places off the strip and still able to have a good time at!
These last three nights have been a part of a series of very long days, with bed time ending up being around 05:00 and getting up at 09:00 in order to not miss out on breakfast! Talked to quite a few locals, and was surprized to find a good percentage made over 80,000.00 per annum, wish it were that lucrative up here, then I could go to your intriguing city more often! | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 8/27/2007 1:45:30 PM | I'm a native Las Vegan and one thing that never changes in Vegas is the never ending changes! LoL... Construction never stops, buildings being torn down & new ones being put up is an everyday event. All I wish is now that they master how to prevent the traffic problems from hell, when the heck are they going to figure out a traffic solution for those freeways =) heehee  I hope I'm alive to see it when it happens.
Ciao.
I'm am in the process of moving but of course Vegas will always be my home especially since all my family/friends live there. | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 8/28/2007 6:39:06 PM | Hi, I lived in Vegas for about a year and was very novel at first...the mountainous background, the casinos and all they had to offer. After a while, getting tired of the casino environment, it was kind of hard to find several nice places like lounges and nice restaurants. There certainly were places (La Haina was one of my favs) but not as plentiful as say, in a city in the Northeast.
Either way, I had a good time there and look forward to my next visit, but this time as a tourist. | |
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 9/26/2007 1:03:44 PM | Hi Forumites!!!
I moved here in 1972--straight from college. There were only 180,000 people here at the time. It was a very small town atmosphere, as Lou explained in a prior post.
All of his observations were true. There was lots of open spaces....
Now after the growth we have had in the last 10 years, 5,000 moving into Vegas a month...makes for alot of houses, and alot of jobs. But they keep building and selling...Although the last year has played havoc on the Real Estate Market.
Home up for sale and no one buying because property went sky high.
But I am told that growing has not stopped. In the next few years we will be like Santa Monica to Long Beach, Houses from Jean Nevada up past Henderson. We still have alot of growth...and alot of opportunity to make money still.
Most of the hotels that were here when I came have been torn down or imploded.
And many new hotels have taken their places. Las Vegas looks more rich now than ever.
My advice is to NOT leave now as you have gone through the hard part--the lst few years. Things are truly going to pick up. And if you are aware, you will know how to make that first million or come close.
I have left here numerous times: Utah, San Diego, Reno, Hawaii, Minnesota.
But once I had worn a pair of shoes out, I have come to the conclusion that Las Vegas is my home.
Secure Heart
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| What do you think about Vegas
Posted: 9/27/2007 6:29:53 PM | Well I've been here 10 plus years now and have had my love hate relationship with this place. I understand why anyone would dislike Vegas with it's cheesiness up in bright lights, transient nature, etc but I have really come to love this town. The reality is the place you live is what you make of it, and Vegas certainly has it's advantages. I love the fact that I have the chance to influence one of the fastest growing town in this country if I so choose. The energy of having a growing city with all the potential in the world is inspiring. Plus I never have to hear last call, can get great chow at 3 in the morning, see snow on a mountain right now while sitting in 90 degree weather, and can potentially meet someone from 10 different countries all at the same bar. I think it's finally got to the point where people are willing to stay longer than 3 months and try to establish something here. Fun!
Well time to go drink all night, laugh at tourists paying my taxes trying to break the bank, see a band at 2 AM, eat sushi at 3, and then go meditate/detox out in the serene desert.... go do that in another town ;)
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