| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in the birth of RockNRoll
Posted: 5/1/2005 4:15:06 PM | | RockNRoll music is the most important musical genre today and has been for decades.Many opinions vary as to who is the real "king" or inventor of this important musical gene.Who do YOU feel is the most important/influential artist in RockNRoll history?Who is the REAL KING of RockNRoll? | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 5/1/2005 4:26:51 PM | Chuck Berry or Little Richard.
But Elvis really did a lot to cross the race gap that existed.
The real King perhaps is Sam Phillips, owner of Sun Records, for recording folks from both races early. The Cat knew talent and loved music. He had Elvis, Howlin Wolf, BB king, Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis, etc.... | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 5/1/2005 9:23:37 PM | Actually you can trace the origins of R&R back to "Slim and Slam" .... Slim Galliard(Bulee Gaillard) and Slam Stewart( Leroy Stewart), who started performing together in 1936 in NYC, ....yup, Slim played a mean 'lectric guitar...... Slam INVENTED "slap bass"......
If the question is "who made it popular"?
Well, that's easy, .....Allan Freed, a DJ.
If the question is, ...."Who got the ball rolling?"
.......remove the blinders of "pop culture", and look back, .......way back.
Are we talking about "music", .....or "demographics"?
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 5/1/2005 9:46:17 PM | I agree with late-- it's the originality of the musical genre, not a "popularization" of it. In this context, Elvis doesn't even come close. (And I have nothing against Elvis.) He was taking songs of black artists, and, with his charisma and the upsurge in T.V. viewing by youngsters, was hugely popular and was falsely given a lot of "seminal" credit for the music and its style.
And long before Bob Dylan plugged his guitar into an amp at that imfamous festival moment, Muddy Waters in the 40's was doing the same-- electrification AND more importantly, increasing the tempo and edge of the performances. I defer to late re Jordan, but many people in the 40's had a creating influence on later rock, which is how I always look at the question. | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 5/1/2005 9:50:38 PM | His name was "Ugh" and he was a prehistoric caveman. He got his cave buddy and took a big rock n rolled it over him. His buddy screamed just like Robert Plant but there was no electricity to plug "Ugh's" rock guitar made from some rolling stones.
sadly, the world would have to wait.
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 5/1/2005 9:56:41 PM | I would even submit the work of Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys, as being relevent ...in particular the sides that were cut in the '30s with guitarist Junior Barnard. I can go on, ......not past the mid '30s though. I doubt many will know of any of the people I mention. Such is the power of revisionism in the context of popular media.
Where would Elvis be without Arthur "Big Boy" Crudup? | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 5/1/2005 9:59:33 PM | | "Toonsmith"-that was HILLARIOUS ! The ORIGINAL question was, who was most INFLUENTIAL not who was "First". I still say Elvis(as far as rock'n roll) HE got the Rock and Roll to the MASSES (as well as the biggest selling artist worldwide) | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 5/1/2005 10:03:29 PM | If the question is "who got rock & roll to the masses"?
Alan Freed, he was the one that first called "it", Rock n' Roll.
@ Rory -
Muddy Waters in the 40's was doing the same-- electrification AND more importantly, increasing the tempo and edge of the performances.
Actually, the first man to play electric guitar on the first Chicago blues sides was George Barnes, ......a white man. | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 5/1/2005 10:50:09 PM | Well, if the question was "who is the most influential" Id have to say all the old delta blues masters..they "invented" rock & roll. Howlin Wolf, T-bone Walker,Muddy Waters, Willie Dixon, James Cotton, John lee hooker,Robert Johnson,Son House,Bo Diddley....take your pick. But if your of the KISS persuasion....God gave rock & roll to you  | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 5/2/2005 5:47:53 AM | There are so many blues artists that were the influences of Rock and Roll artists. Robert Johnson predates most that I can think of. Chuck Berry and Little Richard were early rock artists, Carl Perkins, Buddy Holly and the Crickets, Muddy Waters and Bo Diddley. Elvis was very popular but also influenced other artists. It's hard to not say the Beatles had a huge impact on Rock and Roll and anyone who ever say Jimi Hendrix play was not only in awe of his ability but recognizes that there are alot of guitar players playing in bands today that were influenced enough from hearing and seeing him play that they picked up guitars and wanted to learn how to play themselves.
I don't know how much of an artist Les Paul was, but I agree that he should be mentioned because it just wouldn't be Rock and Roll without his inovations with the electric guitar. | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 5/2/2005 7:26:11 AM | Whoever invented the electric guitar.....was it Les Paul????
Nope, but is was someone associated with Gibson. Lloyd Loar, invented the first electric guitar, after he left Gibson (he was resposible for many instruments including the L5 archtop guitar, the F5 mandolin, and the Mastertone banjo). He left Gibson and started Vivitone, ....and made the first electric guitar in '33. Prior to that many musicians and experimenters often built their own pick-ups and fit them to instruments, .....maybe as early as the mid '20's.
Not to slight Les Paul, .....he pioneered many aspects of the recording industry, aside from being a popular musician, he also invented multi-track recording. Ol' Les still plays a regular Monday night jazz gig in NYC.
late, how long did Barnes predate Waters '46- '47? My point re Waters wasn't so much the amplification, but the attitude, pace, etc.... I'm unfamiliar with Barnes, but you've intrigued me, so I'll go exploring.....
Barnes was a fantastic guitarist, by 1935 he was playing blues guitar for singers like Memphis Minnie and Blind John Davis in Chicago, he was only 14 at the time. He went on to become a very influencial jazz guitarist, and was one of the earliest adopters of the "electric guitar".
The first electric guitarist to be heard by a large audience was Junior Barnard, who played in Bob Wills' band, starting circa 1935. Barnard was a loud guitarist who had an overdriven tube sound decades before it became widely popular with rock guitarists. If you ever get a chance to hear the "Tiffany Transcriptions", do so, with one listen you will hear the "sound" of rock n' roll guitar, aggressive, gutsy and unmistakable. | |
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| Name the artist you feel was the most infulential in RockNRoll
Posted: 5/2/2005 9:34:12 AM | The most influential in Rockn Roll i think was Elvis. He brought it all together as far as being able to mold the first wave of RocknRoll. The second wave was probably the Beatles by 62 63 Rock had become bubblegum thank you****Clark and Elvis was busy making movies like Girls, Girls, Girls and junk movies. His musical direction was what i term Nashvillle Rock. The classic Nashville sound meets rocknroll. I could go on and on about Elvis. Personally I don't think he liked being a rock nroller His idols were the gospel quartets, Mario Lanza and Roy Hamilton.
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