| Another maniac gets through customs
Posted: 5/1/2005 11:36:00 PM | Officials with the U.S. Customs agency say they'll give their full co-operation to the RCMP as they investigate the double murder in Minto.
The bodies of an elderly man and woman were found in their home on the Slope Road, in Minto New Brunswick, Tuesday afternoon; shot and decapitated. [f*cking maniac]
RCMP Sergeant Gary Cameron says police have now positively identified the two victims of the double murder as 74-year-old Fred Fulton and his common-law wife, 70-year-old Veronica Decarie. Though these names were released to the media the day after the killings, Cameron said it was difficult to identify the bodies with absolute certainty.
"It was violent death," Cameron said.
"Without going into details, it was hard because the victims had sustained injuries which made it difficult to make the positive identification."
Gregory Alan Despres, 22, was supposed to be in court in Fredericton Monday morning for sentencing. He'd been convicted of assault with a weapon and uttering death threats. A 22-year-old-man, Gregory Allan Despres, was arrested early Wednesday morning in Massachusetts. [thank god for the Mass PD]
Now here is the disturbing part:
A spokesperson for U.S. Customs in New York says Despres was carrying a "cache" of weapons, including a sword, a hatchet, several hunting knives, a pair of brass knuckles and pepper spray.
Customs officers seized the items. However, they didn't stop him from entering the country.
How can they let a man convicted of nasty crimes, and on trial for others - with warrants - into the States? Us customs are a joke! Thank God for the Mass PD. I thought the border patrol got stricter since 9-11, but letting a maniac in like that, makes me second guess that... | |
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| Another maniac gets through customs
Posted: 5/2/2005 8:17:37 AM | Yup, sometimes though, they hide here -
TORONTO - Two Americans wanted for sexually assaulting a handicapped child were arrested in Toronto on Thursday.
Acting on a tip, police found Patricia Kelley at a restaurant in Toronto where she was working under an assumed name.
Kelley, 39, then led investigators to an apartment in west Toronto where they arrested John Stoneman, 39.
Kelley and Stoneman were charged in Ohio after police said they found a videotape of the couple assaulting a four-year-old girl.
The victim in the case is blind and has spina bifida, hydrocephalus, diabetes and seizures. | |
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| Another maniac gets through customs
Posted: 5/2/2005 8:27:46 AM |
TORONTO - Two Americans wanted for sexually assaulting a handicapped child were arrested in Toronto on Thursday.
Thank the gods for the OPP. Abusing retards? That, is ****ed up. | |
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| Another maniac gets through customs
Posted: 5/2/2005 12:50:00 PM |
Now here is the disturbing part:
A spokesperson for U.S. Customs in New York says Despres was carrying a "cache" of weapons, including a sword, a hatchet, several hunting knives, a pair of brass knuckles and pepper spray.
Customs officers seized the items. However, they didn't stop him from entering the country
*scratches head*
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| Another maniac gets through customs
Posted: 5/2/2005 1:00:05 PM |
Customs officers seized the items. However, they didn't stop him from entering the country
*scratches head*
um.....
Well, he was a citizen, ....where would they send him "back" to?
....You'd think though that they could have held him until they had a chance to scope out possible violent crimes commited in Canada, ......but, ..... that's not their mandate. | |
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Posted: 5/2/2005 5:05:11 PM | So if he was hiding out in Canada why did Canadian immigration let him into Canada the first place? Seems to me you'd have 2 less murders if Canadian Immigration hadn't dropped the ball before he ever got into Canada. You don't let people with DWI's through but psycho murders alright come on in. | |
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Posted: 5/2/2005 5:11:44 PM |
So if he was hiding out in Canada why did Canadian immigration let him into Canada the first place? Seems to me you'd have 2 less murders if Canadian Immigration hadn't dropped the ball before he ever got into Canada. You don't let people with DWI's through but psycho murders alright come on in
But hey, it was a-okay that the American customs agent allowed them through because they confincated there cashe of weapons before they let them loose! | |
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Posted: 5/2/2005 5:19:05 PM | | I'm not saying it was okay but quit trying to blame every mis forune in the world on the U.S. he got into Canada via the Canadian immigration service before he commited the murders. If your big goal in life is to blame everything bad that happens in the World on the U.S. just let us know up front | |
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Posted: 5/2/2005 5:24:43 PM | | oh whoa... much bitterness. I didn't blame America for anything... I'm simply stating your boarder agents weren't exactly up to par themselves. Sheessssss... Settle down. | |
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| Another maniac gets through customs
Posted: 5/2/2005 5:27:24 PM | I'm not saying it was okay but quit trying to blame every mis forune in the world on the U.S.
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Hmmmm..... who did this in this thread?
I even posted an example of criminals hiding out here. | |
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| Another maniac gets through customs
Posted: 6/8/2005 7:24:13 AM | Man With Chain Saw, Sword Is Let Into U.S.
BOSTON - On April 25, Gregory Despres arrived at the U.S.-Canadian border crossing a
Calais, Maine, carrying a homemade sword, a hatchet, a knife, brass knuckles and a chain saw stained with what appeared to be blood. U.S. customs agents confiscated the weapons and fingerprinted Despres. Then they let him into the United States.
The following day, a gruesome scene was discovered in Despres' hometown of Minto, New Brunswick: The decapitated body of a 74-year-old country musician named Frederick Fulton was found on Fulton's kitchen floor. His head was in a pillowcase under a kitchen table. His common-law wife was discovered stabbed to death in a bedroom.
Despres, 22, immediately became a suspect because of a history of violence between him and his neighbors, and he was arrested April 27 after police in Massachusetts saw him wandering down a highway in a sweat shirt with red and brown stains. He is now in jail in Massachusetts on murder charges, awaiting an extradition hearing next month.
At a time when the United States is tightening its borders, how could a man toting what appeared to be a bloody chain saw be allowed into the country?
Bill Anthony, a spokesman for U.S. Customs and Border Protection, said the Canada-born Despres could not be detained because he is a naturalized U.S. citizen and was not wanted on any criminal charges on the day in question.
Anthony said Despres was questioned for two hours before he was released. During that time, he said, customs agents employed "every conceivable method" to check for warrants or see if Despres had broken any laws in trying to re-enter the country.
"Nobody asked us to detain him," Anthony said. "Being bizarre is not a reason to keep somebody out of this country or lock them up. ... We are governed by laws and regulations, and he did not violate any regulations."
Anthony conceded it "sounds stupid" that a man wielding what appeared to be a bloody chain saw could not be detained. But he added: "Our people don't have a crime lab up there. They can't look at a chain saw and decide if it's blood or rust or red paint."
Sgt. Gary Cameron of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police would not comment on whether it was, in fact, blood on the chain saw.
On the same day Despres crossed the border, he was due in a Canadian court to be sentenced on charges he assaulted and threatened to kill Fulton's son-in-law, Frederick Mowat, last August.
Mowat told police Despres had been bothering his father-in-law for the past month. When Mowat confronted him, Despres allegedly pulled a knife, pointed it at Mowat's chest and said he was "going to get you all."
Police believe the dispute between the neighbors boiled over in the early-morning hours of April 24, when Despres allegedly broke into Fulton's home and stabbed to death the musician and 70-year-old Veronica Decarie.
Fulton's daughter found her father's body two days later. His car was later found in a gravel pit on a highway leading to the U.S. border. Despres hitchhiked to the border crossing.
After the bodies were found on the afternoon of April 26, police set up roadblocks and sent out a bulletin that identified Despres as a "person of interest" in the slayings, according to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
The bulletin caught the eye of a Quincy police dispatcher because it gave the suspect's Massachusetts driver's license number, missing a character. The dispatcher plugged in numbers and letters until she found a last known address for Despres in Mattapoisett. She alerted police in that town, and an officer quickly spotted Despres.
In state court the next day, Despres told a judge that he is affiliated with NASA and was on his way to a Marine Corps base in Kansas at the time of his arrest.
After the case was transferred to federal court, Despres' attorney, Michael Andrews, questioned whether his client is mentally competent.
Fulton's friends in Minto, a village of 2,700 people, told the New Brunswick Telegraph-Journal that he was a popular musician, a guitarist known as the "Chet Atkins of Minto" and a 2001 inductee in the Minto Country Music Wall of Fame.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050608/ap_on_re_us/chain_saw_border;_ylt=AuNfXPn0WOq_dheW8K2D7zxH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTBhZXViMXRkBHNlYwNjaWQ3MTg- | |
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| Another maniac gets through customs
Posted: 6/8/2005 2:39:02 PM |
I'm not saying it was okay but quit trying to blame every mis forune in the world on the U.S. he got into Canada via the Canadian immigration service before he commited the murders. If your big goal in life is to blame everything bad that happens in the World on the U.S. just let us know up front
I don't recall anything about him having a criminal history before he got to Canada. | |
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Posted: 6/8/2005 9:48:46 PM | All of these people advocating for racial profiling at the border these days and this is what's really going on...
This fellow commits a double-murder. Steals the victims car and ditches it just before the border. Walks through customs on foot carrying knives, swords and a chainsaw (all covered in blood by the way.) While impounding the weapons, the US agents let him through..
Their excuse was that nobody asked them to detain him.. Duh! He had just committed the murders!! His weapons were covered in blood!
What really got me was when I read in the local rag about the guy standing in line with him. He had a drug possession on his record from twenty years ago, and said that the customs agents treated this psychopath better than they treated him. Served him coffee, joked with him, and processed him faster.. Apparently the customs agents were even playing with the bloody sword!
Anytime anybody tells me Canadians are lax on border security again, I'm going to bring this chestnut up. What a joke. | |
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Posted: 6/9/2005 2:21:13 AM | | You say that customs isnt tight yet friend of my family was stopped after a flight from London to New York and was detained by customs and questioned by the police for two hours, because he has a common Irish name, irony of it is that he works for the Ministry of Defence over here and has higher security clearance than most..... | |
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| Another maniac gets through customs
Posted: 6/9/2005 5:51:33 AM | Walked thru customs? What were they going to detain him for?
Uhm, fresh blood on his sword and chainsaw... Hello.
Don't you think that at the very least, it would warrant a phone call to the police?
Some people are being prevented from going through customs because they wear a turban, and a guy carrying multiple weapons covered in blood just waltzes through... And you don't see a problem with this?
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Posted: 6/9/2005 6:40:43 AM | | I read more about this. He was Canadian born, naturalized American citizen. They held him for two hours under questioning, checked for ANY warrants, and found none. Customs agents are not forensic detectives, and don't test chainsaws for blood, rust, or red paint. I suppose they could have held him illegally, and we could be debating about how our personal freedoms are being eroded, but that's another topic. | |
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Posted: 6/9/2005 7:05:14 AM | | ^^^^^^^^ I agree. Let's say he was innocent and never killed anyone. The headlines would read........Innocent man detained for hours at US Customs. Then I can see it now. The US is out of line. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? What about the mans equal rights. It a shame the US treats everyone like terrorists. They should be going after real terrorists not innocent people. Blah, blah, blah. | |
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