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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 6/18/2007 6:37:06 PM | I found a map that was done by National Geographic (Feb 07). In the Seattle area we have 20,000 more single men then women. A pretty significant number if you think about it. No wonder so many guys here are finding it difficult whereas most women have less of a problem.
On the Eastern part of the US its flip flopped with more single women then single men. In New York/Newark area its 185,000 more single women. This is probably why some here from the east coast found it much easier over there then here.
Any theories about this? Perhaps more job opportunities for women back east? | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 6/18/2007 10:42:11 PM | If this is true, I should be having a lot more fun than I have now lol. I am definately not moving to the east coast now though!  | |
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Posted: 6/20/2007 11:08:59 AM | 20,000 more men in Seattle but really what are the stats for single men and women in the entire western Washington. The theory or rumor if you can call it that is that women in the western Washington area out number the men. But really it does say alot about how hard it is to get a girl and the kind of girl you want. I often had to settle for less (which was a mistake) just to feel wanted, its that hard to find to girl you want, much less a girl that is single. I used to follow the good old saying "if she is pretty than she is taken"
I did a tad research and I found an explanation, its outdated and old but it might shed some light on modern day patterns. Back when Washington was still be settle, you had lumberjacks and gold rushers searching and searching and they pretty much left their life behind in order to get rich. Now imagine gold rushers and lumberjacks, all men and all men profession, and no women......what are you gonna do? Then there was a program done to keep the unfortunate ppl who didnt strike it rich in Washington to settle and they brought over many women who were literally bridal orders to these men in order to start family, it may not explain why there are more men today, but really it seems Washington had always had this problem. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 6/20/2007 3:24:34 PM | I can't seem to find the link with the picture but I saved the map and hosted it on my photobucket page.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/longhaul747/001319859.jpg
20,000 might not seem like a lot but its a high enough number to influence the dating scene here in Seattle. Take into consideration the lack of desirable women here and it gets even harder if not bordering on impossible.
I have noticed lately a whole ton of Caucasian guys (frankly some of these guys look like serial killers) with some rather hot and young Asian women lately. Not Asian American but born in Asia women. It looks like the dating scene is so bad here that many guys are going overseas now to find happiness (mail order thing). Mail order is not exactly my thing but I am tempted now. Problem is knowing my luck I would be one of the 5% who get shafted in these deals. Amazingly though these deals are usually very successful.
In the same online article I found it interesting that the most in demand guy here in Seattle is African Americans. White women want them and very recently Asian women find them attractive as well. If you are an African American guy the dating scene is pretty easy they say because they are not in high numbers here. Its pretty tough here for the white guy because we are the most common.
I believe most people deserve what they want and it should be available to them. However Seattle is just plain cold for a lot of people unless you are very very wealthy an/or a high demand race.
My personal preference is Asian women but will take any nice gal. I try like hard to meet Asian women (and we have a lot here) but I am finding out that even though I am fairly attractive and I do pretty well I get beat out by my neighbor with the 10,000 sq ft home and a Porsche down the street. I have had the best luck with the conservative hippie (northwest outdoors) type white girls lately. I was born and raised here in Seattle so thats maybe why. I still like the exotic nature of many Asian women though. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 6/20/2007 10:41:47 PM | Map is alittle hard to read because the blue circles overlap with those oj circles. But still a general statement can be made that there are more women than men on the east coast and more men than women on the west coast and quite frankly I was expecting the opposite and upon my arrival in Seattle I kept getting told that (it probably was a lie to encourage those who are thinking men out number women here to get out there) Women out number the men in Seattle and if not Seattle than the state of Washington, as if it betters our situation here anyways.
ONE, your posting made me remember something. I used to take Kendo classes at the UW for free because of my student status and really, there were alot of Japanese women and I swear my instructor who was a woman had the biggest crush on me, I mean she would just stare me down sometimes with her mouth open like she met God in human form. Well she was looking good too and I admired the fact she knew how to fight but dude I, its my luck I didn't figure it out until after I left do to health issues, lots of cute Asian girls, all of them Japanese. You like Asian women, take Kendo classes you'll find plenty of them and enough white people not to make your feel alienated. Again in another posting I said clubs and group that meet regularly will better your chances of getting a chic that is into you, because your their all the time and this 20,000 stat means nothing if you do that.
About the bridal order thing, GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. I heard of some stories where people went to many countries just to fine a wife and spent alot of money on it too. You simply cant expect a normal marriage if you open a bridal order magazine and then order Bride number 12283B and expect her to come in the mail 2 weeks later. Of course in this day and age something like that is possible but must to taken seriously. I know a few ppl who did this, and either they were miserable for the rest of their marriage or they wake up one day to see that their "wife" had abandoned him, be warned many of the are looking for a green card. But still it as you use a professional service you might be able to avoid those traps. Actally I am thinking of getting a bridal order as well, but one from my homeland, but this is last resort.
But really you right, that does show how bad the social climate in Seattle and in America in general is, whatever happened to that 9-5 job and you come home to a hot plate of food and your kids well behaved and the like because she stays home raising them. You have a woman that isnt corrupted by the American values of independence and the addiction to devoice based on irreconcilable differences and you have a woman who is loyal, loving and caring and cooks alot of food that would cost an arm and a leg at a restaurant serving cuisine from her country. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 6/20/2007 11:19:41 PM | Dating asian girls from asia absolutely does not = mail order!!
It simply means that the guy was either very lucky or he travels a lot. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 6/21/2007 10:18:15 AM | Um... there's a pretty simple explanation for this.
A lot of those guys are gay.
Seriously- Seattle has a relatively high percentage of gay folks, and there's more gay men than gay women.
So while there might be 20K more single men than single women, if a significant portion of those "extra" guys are gay, the "competition" factor isn't nearly as bad as you're wondering about. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 6/21/2007 10:39:40 AM | Here's a graphic that backs up what I mentioned:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/zoom/html/2003432941.html
and this article on Wikipedia has some demographic info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Seattle
If there's 258,500 households, and 41% of those are just one person living alone, then there's roughly 103,000 singles in Seattle. Add in a few thousand more for households that are roommate situations where they're both single and not romantically involved, and let's figure that there's 120,000 single people in Seattle.
If there's 20K more single men than women, that means there's 70,000 single men and 50,000 single women.
But wait! How many of those are gay/lesbian?
Well, the first graphic shows 12.9% overall to be gay. That means that of the 120,000 singles, 12,000 of them are gay. Usually there's roughly twice as many gay men as there are lesbian women, so that means there's 8,000 gay men and 4,000 gay women.
Subtract those numbers from the overall totals and now there's 58,000 single straight men in Seattle, and 46,000 single straight women.
Instead of there being 20,000 more single men, for us straight men it's not really THAT bad- there's only 12,000 more men than women. Yeah, that's still bad for the men, but not quite as bad as we might have worried about! | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 6/21/2007 11:58:15 PM | | Numbers are a problem if you are simply just waiting for someone to come along and sweep you off your feet, the best way to improve your chances of getting lucky is to go to bars, clubs, cafes, meet up anything that you could do on a regular basis and get out there, someone will notice you if you come along often, also hit up your friends tell them your down on your luck and you need them to give you leads or arrange blind dates. Theres gotta be something, and also you have these sites, and also match making sites that while they cost money, are high quality sites and I dare say much better than this or craigslist. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 6/22/2007 8:16:20 PM | BLACK MEN IN DEMAND?! Ha, I guess the women that I've been trying to holla at didn't get the memo. I swear, as a black man, this is the toughest place that I've ever been as far as dating is concerned. I can hardly get women to even look at me. Well, let me rephrase that, I can hardly get any pretty women to look at me, LOL. I would agree that if you are a black man that is into BBW's then this is definitely the place for you. There are plenty of them out there LOOKING for black men. But if you are a black man like me that wants a woman that is attractive, slim, slender, athletic, etc. the pickings are very slim to none. Most women out here like that are taken. And if they aren't taken they just don't date black men.
That's my 2 cents. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 6/22/2007 9:48:54 PM | Dark,
That sound true and its pretty much what I have been getting, fat, dull women. Granted some of the BBWs I have met are great people and they are my friends but even that is a long shot. Hell I even did 3 weeks with a BBW but she left me because she was high and didnt know what the hell she was saying and then she writes this blog on MS saying how I just walked out of her life without warning. jeeez.
Dark I am telling, you had it better in New york or the east coast thats for sure I hear there are 2 women for each man, how good can that get? I bet you have problems with women here because your not laid back and are often accused of being pushy when your simply making an effort to lock a date in. Jeeez, I came from a bad place to meet women and in general Seattle is a big improvement, but sometimes this place lets me down, but thank god I just started to live in real world, just gotta get that yacht I have been saving for and then the babes will be lining up for a ride in my love boat! HAHAHAHAH | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 6/22/2007 11:34:23 PM | I don't think there are THAT many gay men to make a difference.
I think it might have something to do with the tech industry in the area. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 6/27/2007 3:41:46 AM | Someone once told me that seattle women are like peanut butter. They come in two types:
Chunky and Nutty | |
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Posted: 6/27/2007 4:27:02 PM | Hey Dark,
I have dated both, they were chunk and nutty but they werent sweet either,but oh well, I know which brands and types avoid now lol, I am looking for the smooth and creamy kind LOL! Rich would be nice too. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 7/3/2007 10:17:47 PM | | by way of internet, I personally think the men around here should hook up with some eastern time women. maybe they are two sides of the same coin but the technicality of society has divided it like this. you know, a woman that tells you what she wants and expects and puts out too, maybe rare around here. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 7/4/2007 7:08:54 PM | Why do guys always want someone who is attractive, slim, slender, athletic, etc? What happened to what is inside a person that counts instead of just LOOKS? Are all of you wanting "trophy" women or do you want someone who has depth? There are a LOT of us women who are a little chunky but have a great personality, are lovable, and can be great partners. Why not give US a chance?
That's my two cents! | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 7/4/2007 7:21:42 PM | | Well, Cherie I agree with you to an extent. I guess what it all boils down to is what your preferences are and what's important to you. Me, myself, I have a rough picture of what I want in a woman physically, mentally, and spiritually. There are always exceptions to the rule though. A woman that takes care of her body is very important to me because fitness is an important part of my life. No, I don't exactly have to have a trophy wife and a couple extra pounds is okay but when i say "a couple extra pounds" I mean maybe 5 or so. I think that women get it kind of screwed up in that aspect when they are describing themselves. One of the reasons that america is so overweight. But personality is also VERY important to me. I've dated some really attractive women that had no personality and that was just as much of a turn off as if she were overweight. So I think that it goes both ways. There are lots of men out there that want bigger women and seek them out, just not me. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 7/6/2007 4:09:06 PM | | I wonder how many are ridiculously dedicated computer industry guys? Hmm... but most of my fellow engineers at work are married... but then we are a Unix shop. At our shop, have lives and don't due that crazy 14 hrs a day stuff the Microsofties are prone towards. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 7/6/2007 4:16:18 PM | | You know on second thought, I don't think the number is significant on it's own. Can you provide a ratio? That would seem more statistically relevant. Does Tacoma count as "Seattle area"? | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 8/14/2007 10:32:56 AM | Asian girls, dating and getting married is becoming more comon then you think. Because the average income for a family of 6 is about 43.00. The girls are outnumbering the men. A man in the USA and other countrys have found that the girls, no mater the age for the man. Will not only marry but become a life time parner and take care of the man with pride. In the Phillipines the average retired american lives with, marries, or racks up a record with girls 13 to 25. I just spent 10 months there to see if I can aford to live there as being on SSD I cant afford to live here and date too. But I become depresset that men here would travel to there and take a girls womenhood, get her with child and leave. With all the people I met there they were the greatest freinds one can have. I was called Uncle Vic by the adults and kids. Wrote my poems, set with freinds and talked over a little run or beer. But I could not create a girl freind because of that. I will just do what I can here. But I agree, mail order bride from asia is posible, if you what, thousands of starving girls would love to come here and be your slave. Sometimes there are ever guys here that really love them. Why, them and not an american girl. "Whats in your Walet"  Seriously is there any women in the USA that looks for a man for love sake and not an extra income if not all. | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 8/14/2007 6:23:40 PM | Frist off, you are comparing two completely different cultures with two completely differnt mind set, though in the end you are right, women from Asia are submissive and loyal to their husbands and do want childern but American women are more independant, dont need to rely on men for care and even now as my studies indicate would just as soon use a semen bank for their childern rather than men. Its not anything to worry about yet, its just such methods has seen a dramatic increase.
But be careful of these so call starving women, many of them are simply looking for a green card and will run at the first chance. I cant begin to tell you how many horror stories I have heard, even from my own nation of Lebanon you had these so called "starving" women who are sick of war and turmoil and want a chance to live a decent life but another day you might wake up and find her gone and her things gone too and lo and behold she left town to start a life on her own.
Plus mail order is costly, I have heard some men searching literally half the world trying to get that right woman, and it can get costly even to see these women, sometimes up to 60,000 to visit a handful of countries and mail order match making serivces. I have often considered bridal orders myself but then again its an investment that might not generate a return. | |
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Posted: 8/14/2007 11:20:34 PM | (/I have often considered bridal orders myself but then again its an investment that might not generate a return. )
Jeez...Someone was mentioning women as shallow? Since when is a human being an investment, or a trophy? Seems to me that you guys need to look for the real motive you are seeking a relationship. I would rather deal with a few extra pounds and have the fun of shedding them by working out with a nice human being that is responsable and commited rather than dreaming about the unconditional love of some exotic and faraway fantasy person. No wonder you guys are lonely...What happened to fun but mature, caring but balanced, selfless love, just for love's sake?
Doesn't it make us better as human beings? I understand that we all have agendas, but good grief, men...you are so busy with the ideal that you can's see anything but peanut butter
Choo, choo, the train came through...the peanut he did shudder
choo, choo, the train came through...Toot, toot!!! Peanut butter | |
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| 20,000 more single men then women
Posted: 8/15/2007 6:58:23 AM | | I was in Seattle on the 5th of Aug and got to say the male population looked attractive. I was with a fellow who could knock your socks off looks wise. His personality and care so blinded me. Perhaps it isn't about looks but how someone treats someone that is the most important thing to consider. By the way crunchy is great.... | |
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