| | are you glad the hippies have gone?Page 1 of 7 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) | | how do you feel about the first 'woodstock' generation, the flower children and the hippies of the sixtys who dropped out and turned on, who explored alternative lifestyles, and who really believed that they were helping bring on a real, concrete change for the better in society and the world? | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 2:22:42 AM | Hippies are all the same.....they think they can help and change the world. Most of them smoke pot and owe back taxes and are a burden to us hard working people.
I have no respect for lazy sh#ts. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 3:58:43 AM | | and your allusion to smoking pot means what? you're not gonna tell me that this little weed is yet again being blamered for social deviance, lazyness and the fact that the sun don't shine when it's raining? | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 4:01:55 AM | | ah come on. don't generalize about everybody and paint them all with the same brush. name calling. shame on you. it makes the red show maybe? | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 8:08:51 AM | From what I've been told there's still plenty of 'em out there (these days they call themselves slackers). People need to do things at different stages in their lives. I think it is attractive to people who are young and idealistic, but as you get older (and start producing your own children) its time to get responsible and at least pay your own bills and get a stable roof over your head.
So many people claim using drugs is part of a "social movement" when actually its just a convenient excuse to be lazy and do what you wanta do anyway. If people want to be involved in political causes, that's fine. But if they live in someone else's basement going from drug to drug do they really think they'll change the world? | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 12:37:52 PM | Oh, some people just LOVE to stereotype. Makes me want to gag. Hippie is a state of mind. It has nothing to do with whether or not you pay your bills, do drugs, own a home, or at least rent, or be a productive member of society. When you call people that use drugs hippies, it's SO general. Do you have any idea how many hippeis don't use drugs? I know alot. THey just don't care to. Hippies call them junkies. actually. People think that if you drive a VW, stink and follow the Grateful Deal are hippies. ANd yet some of those "hippies" are the same ones who like to get stupid females hooked on Extacy, and do horrible things to them. Like I said, hippie is a state of mind. I have SO many people tell me I'm a hippie. I have SO many people tell me I should have been born in the 60's. I do not do drugs. Hell, I'm a friggin republican. Call me a slacker. All my bills are paid, they've never gone late. I have money in the bank to spend on crap if I wish. I hold a job, I've never accepted public welfare benefits. I've never even had to borrow money. Some may call me fortuante, some call me organized. I'm far from non productive. Hippie is something you can't become, or not be anymore. you are or you aren't. Like being black or white. Like being conservative or liberal. Hippie or, well, whatever the alternative is. To say hippies are slackers, druggies, burnouts, hygenically challenged is to generalize something like gays being diseased. Or blacks being stupid. Or Liberals being rational. (sorry had to get that in there... )The hippies that I know that see these transient people on the side of the highway call them bums. It's all about the way you see life, and try to live your life, and the set of morals and ethics you possess. It's not better or worse than anyone else's it's different. Now what's the next generalization? I know- 75% of people who ride a bicycle when they're kids will be involed in a motorcycle accident.
Furthermore, I have never lived in someone's basement, or depended on anyone besides my parents before I was 18.And I do not hang out with those kinds of people. They are slackers. Hippies and non-hippies alike are slackers. And Too many people who use drugs anymore are not what anyone who thinks about what a hippie is, are indeed hippies. Or should we try to get some of these glorified rap star gangter people to tell you that they're not a hippie. Let's go glorify selling crack to people on welfare at the first of the month... Reading this thread reminds me of lunch tables in a Jr. High school. The Cool people table, the dork table, the jock table, the stoner table (which most of the said stoners consider themselves stoners, and not hippies) and so forth. What would it be like if a thread was posted about "Aren't we glad the fat people have gone?" I mean being fat is actually hazardous to your health. Or how about "aren't we glad the muslims are gone?" Even though we all know some really nice middle eastern people, generally they're all whackos, right? Give me a break... | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 12:47:45 PM | | No, the true hippies were all about love and not war, not hate, not racism, and not drugs, There is always going to be people who drop out of society and choose to turn on, tune out...Hippies helped to change the tide of war, they helped they didn't do it all themselves..I miss the true hippie..They were not a lazy people either, many of them started organic farms..They were good people some are still out there...Just because some people don't like a certain type of person they call them hippie like a put down...I get it all the time on here..."Scum bag hippie, Jerry Garcia throwback...blah,blah,blah..." Shouldn't read a book by it's cover.. I am a republican I'm kinda rightwing alittle more liberal, and I'm all for frontier justice, but I also believe in Live and let live...Hippies are great... | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 1:27:19 PM | <<< This Hippie grew up, went to college and actually learned how to make a difference in his community, instead of hiding from it. I still have the same ideals though. (but I gotta admit, shorter hair does allow me to date a wider variety of gals
Dont knock the idealism. Clean water, social consiousness, love and general goodness. Goodness, Jesus was a hippie | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 1:34:42 PM | | Just like I said. Hippie is a state of mind. You either get it or you don't. And you don't have to be OLD to get it either. I know of a couple 8 year olds that will grow up into beautiful hippies. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 2:49:31 PM | This ol' hippie worked her way through college, raised a family, and through it all, tried to make this world a better place, tried to save it for my kids and grandkids.
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Posted: 5/4/2005 3:31:25 PM | the hippies have not gone.
We just dont wear tie dye
Govt crushed the movement when they started arresting anyone and everyone who spoke with a raised voice in the 70's. Anti~Hippie and awareness propaganda took the wind out of the sails. People like Margaret Mead, Abbie Hoffman, Dennis Leary, and John Lennon took a beating, and the next generation didn't want to pick up the reigns. Can you blame them, though.. Look at what happened to people who spoke out against the corrupt govt towards the middle of the Vietnam war.. Look at what happened to the President who wanted no part of it..
I'm a neo~hippie. There's many of us. We're a very silent minority. I dont even think we're a movement. We can see the problems occuring and growing around us, but are vastly overwhelmed with the mountain that's piled up. While the Hippies of the 60's and 70's did manage to help stop a war and improve equality between sexes and races, they lost. I live in Boulder and can tell you with all confidence the hippies of the 70's have converted to capitalism. It's so similar to a war where the losing side gets integrated into the winning side's lifestyle, society, and culture. Assimilation, baby..
The hippies of today see no other way to overcome our country's problems than to simply step aside and allow the train to crash and burn. In general we hate the "Vote or Die" campaign's because we see no real candidate to back. Neither party is strong enough to buck up against big business, and neither party would want to even if they could. There's too much money in it. Our protest is shown by withholding our votes from a system which is spoiled from top to bottom. We're liberals sure, but we're likely going to be socialists or eutopians who hate the almighty dollar, as well. Most of us can't exactly pinpoint where things started to go wrong, but we have a sense that there is a better way than our capitalistic society will allow buried beneath the fatcats, bigwigs, and idols controlling our country today. We just dont know how to change it. That's why we're biding our time for this system to fail. It's surely going to do so, as history always weaves in circles.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, the general "hardworking" population of the United States sees the "hippie" as being a desolved, extinct secret society. We're not desolved, we're just not holding signs anymore AND we've traded in our tie dye for band t-shirts. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 3:39:32 PM | one of the major distinctions of a neohippie is their sense of awareness. I'm not talking about the knowledge of what time CSI comes on in the evening, but rather awareness of how our country is perceived by the rest of the world. A neohippie is guaranteed to see our declining popularity as a warning sign for trouble yet to come. While our government takes a stance of a child screaming with their hands cupped tightly over their ears, our populace follows as blindly as a ewe being led to slaughter. Americans work harder and longer each passing year to benefit a failing system who's spoils go to the few white guys sitting on the top of the pyramid. See, our country is much more of a corporation than a union of states. It's staggering to find how many companies with bases in other countries have their hands stirring the pot, as well. At some point, just like a corporation running past it's prime with the returns topping off, we will be broken up and sold to the highest bidder. This will likely result in a civil war. Not between areas on a map, but between classes. The have's and the have not's. The way of life and standard of living we are accustomed to today dwindles by a thin, fraying thread, that everyone seems to be ignoring, and when someone tries to point it out, they get their hand slapped and told "dont touch that, ever"..
So we're not going to.. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 3:48:38 PM | :(
I miss the hippies.
I also kind of liked the idea of bathing in the river naked with pretty girls washin my back for me. (THAT was one stereotype that showed true at a Dead Show I went to and seemed sort of beautiful to me) It was nice!
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Hippies arn't gone; they just dress, look and talk different these days.
That's all.
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Posted: 5/4/2005 3:57:42 PM | | Hippies are niether gone nor lazy most of the true hippies I know were back to the landers who came out to the outer areas to start a life of their own away from the confines of the city .these hippys are some very industrious people some aren't. Hippies are alive and well surviving in the back woods and outlying areas. The new generation of hippys I have little use for atleast the ones who make them selves known in my area. One wanted to work yet refused to use a shovel because he did not want to disturb the tree roots and after he said man that is hard work ?many are not like this but the ones who are ,I dislike . | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 4:08:29 PM | LOL... COSMO....I like the story you told me about the guy that had the stuff!! That guy was wayyy more aggravating IMO.
There are those that do and those that dont...in all walks of life. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 9:38:20 PM |
people like Margaret Mead, Abbe Hoffman, Dennis Leary, and John Lennon
Noodler - didn't you mean Dr. Timothy Leary, the acid guru?
Dennis Leary is a comedian and seems a little too "type A" to be a hippy. | |
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Posted: 5/4/2005 10:12:34 PM | | No one is too anything to be hippie. You don't have to be or have anything or not have anything. It's not about the have's and have nots. I know very rich hippies and I know very poor hippies. Educated ones and dumb ones. Hippie is a state of mind. Hippie is a state of mind. It's just all it is. Think about it like a religion, almost. It's a belief system. It's a way of life. It's a conscienceness. It's Christian or Buddhism or Taoism or Muslim or Jewish or Atheism. It is everything or nothing or whatever. It's a state of mind. That's all. It's just the way a certain number of people think. In a general idea. Some Christians think Gays will go to hell. Some gays are Christian, and don't think that way. But they're all Christian, because they believe in the Christ. We are just hippies. We believe the same general things. There's no right or wrong. It all just is. If Dennis Leary is a hippie, it's because he believes he is. Just like Tim Leary. Jane Fonda considered herself a hippie at one point. It all just is. It's just a state of mind. | |
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Posted: 5/5/2005 2:53:03 AM | | have any of you noticed anyone actually being censored and deleted here for the political content of their message? i decided to have a bite to level off the old blood sugar and posted a good message. it was there twenty minutes ago, printed on this forum page, now it's gone. anybody? | |
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Posted: 5/5/2005 3:04:45 AM | | i've just posted a few new threads because i do want to find out what happened to my message. dancinpants suggested i put a shirt on and i might have to. will the f.b.i. be knocking on my door if i continue this because i can and will. | |
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Posted: 5/5/2005 3:17:26 AM | | in my missing message, i was suggesting that after a few generations, events that were controversial at the time and that likely threatened the 'powers that be' are often seen in thick rose coloured glasses. evidence the real concern that the nixon generation had about the power and the influence that an activist like john lennon had. hippiesom or however you want to coin it was a state of mind yes but it was also a lifestyle consisting of thought giving rise to action! if a hippie, forced to work in a steel plant was ordered to illegally pour toxic chemicals down a simple water drain, he protested, stopped, tried to incite others, called the ministry of the environment and was fired. i know this story is true because it happened to me. check out the the following comparison: a fierce commanche fighter encited abject fear in the minds of white settlers. but check out a cigar-store 'indian'. there exists almost a romantic feeling when you see one. my point is once a social movement has been largely conquered by the establishment, it becomes easy to articulate nice, rosy things about it. and so now we see today's hippie as 'cute' or whatever. and if he gave up jobs to stop the outright poisoning of our air and water, for no good reson whatsoever- we lament that 'hippies' are late in their taxes and that they didn't contribute to society in a middle level job. you're right. some didn't. i didn't. but feel the blow of a billyclub on your head in an act of peaceful social protest, i believe that you've earned your right to post your beliefs on this forum. so who read then removed my last message? | |
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