| Is LOVE, SPIRITUAL OR PHYSICAL?
Posted: 8/28/2004 3:47:25 AM | Love. Is it an attraction between contrasts and the general understanding of shortfalls to accomodate and adapt to the existence?
Is it a desire flowing in the physical veins that needs to be quenched by sexual intercourse?
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Is it the soul string that attaches our lives. Is it something spiritual and that is being a consolation to our lives shortfalls?
Can we exist with out it? The great 'LOVE'!!!!
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Posted: 8/28/2004 10:24:48 AM | Ah, love. I've heard it described as the only reality. I'm still trying to verify that, however.
Could all of this, and us, be the sum of Time, Love and Memory? Hmm...
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Ya got me thinking now. I'll have to try again in a moment or two. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2004 11:06:13 AM | And there are love for animals and inanimate objects and intangible experiences...well, love covers a lot of ground. It is all physical, spiritual, experiential...it's all around us.
You know, it is the only reality. After another cup of coffee I'll see that more clearly. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2004 11:29:24 AM | Like I loved my bag of Smartfood popcorn.
Loved it to emptiness....sigh....
Well, at least my fingers smell like cheese....(sniff sniff) | |
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Posted: 8/28/2004 12:02:28 PM | ^lol^
....well I wrote a couple paragraphs then after reading it, I really have no idea cause theres so many ways people could view love, depending on your beliefs, all I kept thinking about was popcorn the whole time so I kinda got lost in my own words lol...only thing that made sense out of it to me is that I think for me love is spiritual but lust is physical which are usually mistaken for the same thing. Maybe the spiritual side of you creates the initial feeling of love then it effects different reactions in your body....oh my brain hurts..I give! BED TIME. i'll try again tommorow.
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Posted: 8/28/2004 12:21:13 PM | I figure love is spiritual to some things and physical to others. The only thing i want those two involved is with a woman. Other than that" I love ya man", but hell no way that going to happen.
Gado
Cant never Could, Wont never Will ! | |
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Posted: 8/28/2004 12:25:07 PM | tantric sex.. sex for the soul so to speak..
kind of hard to give a brief description, but I'll try...
tantra is the art of combining sex with the soul, intimacy with love.
Here is one quote from a great book on tantra by Pala Copeland and Al Link
"tantra is where sex is tranformed into love, and love is transformed into a higher self" OSHO
hmmm maybe I'll start a thread.. lol. | |
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Posted: 8/28/2004 8:11:02 PM | ok folks. for me love is not discribable. Love is blood. Love is action. Love is expectation and love is giving and taking. and love is nothing and everything. WE have a WORD. LovE. Without that, as you have pointed, life is nothing. It is just what we are. Dont try to make out meanings. Be what you are. There you are. the Love.
The only barrier in explaining about love is you are not trying to be yourselves.
Love is just the self. the self that understands. The self that transforms. The self that cares. The self that enjoys. The self that ignores.
It is a particle. It is in us. It is just us.
Love is lust. Lust is the beginning of love. but when people dont realize... the lust remains lust. Love departs. and it still lives inside the Lust.
Love is a great level. To reach it........
You need to be kind of mature.
Yes.....
Lover
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Posted: 8/30/2004 4:12:26 AM | Hi Holly
Soul inside a body is linked with sex. It has its own reasons to conduct a ruleful demand and life. Sex is part of our soul's traits. Sex cannot be separated, but can be subdued or overemphasized, based on a person's cultural, intellectual and circumstantial chances.
Sex like other aspect of our soul is integral and for sure runs the society and today's life and future. Love ... is a changing shade and within whatever change it takes, it still has the warmth.
We should discuss more. I dont have time now and am being pushed away for my work. Thank you for your view.
Kris | |
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Posted: 8/31/2004 7:36:56 AM | Hey Soba,
Thanks for your input. For some of my friends, they say love is just loving. Making love. And then just forget it. They think Love exists only in that form. It comes when you get attached very much and it subsides when the other form hate increases. Hate has hard implications and love is always smooth. That is why we like it right?
Bring in your views to me and it would be great to see them.
Kris | |
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Posted: 9/2/2004 8:54:36 AM | That is right lostlamb. when you become 70 love again becomes spiritual. That are the different forms of it. what do you think of this?
Kris | |
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Posted: 9/2/2004 9:56:53 PM | | Physical love is more superfical. The deepest/truest form of intimacy comes from the spiirtual connection. But is anyone willing to open our wounds to the other,and say, "this is where/why I hurt, this is whom I really am" . Chloe | |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 4:32:44 AM | Hi Chloe
You are very true. As a form, love has these two sides too. The superficial mingles with the deepest and vice versa. It is a composition of both and of course the peaks differ at times.
The biggest contrast to love is will. The will's other side is ego. Ego puts an end to many things. That is why people are not open and they cannot talk to each other about what hurts and why?
If they can think that way, there would be no confusion at all.
Let us think more, what do you say?
Kris | |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:43:55 AM | | Love for your family is bacause you have have to (can't choose who your family is - I'm just lucky cause mine is great)...other than that "love" is a chemical imbalance (it is no differant than eating large quanities of chocolate) ....and you marry the one you can tolerate the most...(ie you don't wake up wanting to kill him in his sleep) | |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 1:04:27 PM | Come on Princess. You are in some disturbed mood. You talk like old princessess. In stories I have seen them killing people. You should be a present day princess. Chao
Kris | |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 3:47:50 AM | Come on Folks.
It will be great to hear more from you on this topic. Someone says that love is a spark and spreads like a fire. You feel your blood running fast in you and the whole existence of it gives us pleasure. So love is great. And an enjoyable feeling. All we need in this life is enjoyment. So love is hailed.
Can physical pleasure be the first way to attain it?
Kris | |
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Posted: 9/5/2004 5:03:28 AM | | the ones i feel closest to are the ones i can actually talk to, and there is no small talk (or a you're a jack ass reply) when i speak to them. i can cry like a little kid with a skinned knee, and no matter how much i want to keep the door shut; they will force it open just to be able to hold me without thinking (i don't want to deal with this) i'd rather be with someone else. for anyone who has been an athlete, a martial artist, into fking yoga. you have to go to a inner place of peace, focus, block out the rest of the world, no pain and overwhelming emotions, and find your center. maybe i'm a fool, but when all those things become paralell with sex, and my woman has taken me there. i feel like i am in love | |
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| Re: Is LOVE, SPIRITUAL OR PHYSICAL?
Posted: 9/5/2004 8:01:11 AM | taking a swing at this....perhaps "love" can be divided into "eros", and "agape". I am NOT talking about :I love apple pie", etc...
I do not feel you have to "love" your family....although the Bible does say to "honour" your parents...it says nothing about having to "love" them. Some folks have parents that they do NOT love...but they can still honour them. Your children...even if you don't feel all that close to them, usually as a parent, you love them anyways, no matter who they turn out to be, or what they do. Look at Jeffrey Dahlmers parents...they "loved" him anyways, even if he was a mass murderer....but they sure didn't expect to see him turn out like that. They may even have blamed themselves somewhat for the way he did turn out. But it was hard to see his dad crying, emotionally torn between the love of his son, and the shock and horror at what had transpired in his life.
Sexual "love" can be akin to "lust"....many of us feel it daily....both men and women. We are deeply ingrained almost on a genetic level to be physically attracted to ppl we find attractive. More of a deep pyschological attraction I would guess....prognantion(sp) of the species.
The "feeling" of "love" towards another person outside our family with whom we wish to share our everyday lives has many faces. We queston ourselves..."can this person...make me feel comfortable...console me...help me through hard times....agree with me on many aspects of life...sexually satisfy me...."...all the things we look for in a partner. The more we can answer "yes" to the questions, the more we feel that attraction. We also find ourselves in that old phallacy of trying to "change" a person to make them fit our expectations of a partner...and if the other person does NOT change, we feel betrayed, and resentful towards that person, and hold them responsible for NOT changing in the directio we wished them to...leading to a breakdown in the original attraction.
OH boy...enough for now..... | |
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Posted: 9/6/2004 4:11:26 AM | Hi YNA6
Your insight helps everyone to analyze the phases of our life and relation to love. Thank you.
In a situation like that where a son commits sinful acts, the father would cry and plead him not to be so... there are cultures and countries people do that....
It is how we ate our first mouth by ourselves. It is how we learnt to use food. Love has a strong relation to how we were taught of it too...
How the entire society behaves is a lesson for the young and the new to the society.
I want to think more on this. but surely later. Thanks again,
Kris | |
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| Re: Is LOVE, SPIRITUAL OR PHYSICAL?
Posted: 9/6/2004 2:42:40 PM | define "love"...right...not a hope in heck of that one! "you don't know what love is..."...heard a gazillion times....
I ain't gonna even TRY to express it! lol!
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