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 tattoo_lurch

Joined: 9/12/2006
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Posted: 7/4/2007 3:30:34 AM
Ok, when the ban into action alot of smokers dealt with it and a huge number of non-smokers turned completely childish at my work.

When teh smokers walked into work all the non-smokers started saying "want a cigerette already?!?!? hahahah".... then after our breaks the non-smokers kept trying to get a rise out of smokers by carrying on asking the same question... but what really disappointed them was when a smoker like myself would reply with "actually no i dont need a cigerette and i am handlingit perfectly fine"... it shut them quicker and the disappointed faces that theyhad was priceless.

So just wondering... have any other smokers experienced this? If you have experienced this i'd love to hear the stories to it? :D Because alot of non-smokers have been banging on about the ban and now that it's here... it's not going completely in their favour at where i work and they're not exactly pleased about it.
 BerryPie

Joined: 5/25/2007
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Posted: 7/4/2007 4:37:22 AM
Hmmmm I'm in the process of giving up at the moment but before I made that choice I implemented several changes of policy at work affording non smokers the chance to enjoy a smoke free environment.
I have always believed that we smokers should have had more consideration for non smokers and because we didn't the tables have completely turned....
After all we were the ones polluting
I'd just say that I'm pleased that they now have a fresh air place although it is a b*mmer for smokers... Agree with them and they have no argument or reason to ridicule
 Blueskies123

Joined: 11/3/2006
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Posted: 7/4/2007 4:51:08 AM
I'm happy the ban has come in and I'm a smoker.
It is going to be a bit strange to start with but we'll get used to it.

A few of us were out on Sunday and happy to pop out for ciggie break.
There was one gloaters in the pub who has never smoked and he was mostly taking the pee out of the rest of us.

The funny thing for us was when he ended up being the only one left in the pub when we all went for a break....so he came with his tail between his legs and joined us outside.

One thing which to me does seem a bit unfair is the lack of smoking bins in my area - well - there just aren't any at all.
I have been guilty of dropping a butt on the ground in the past and have bought some portable ashtrays for myself as I wouldn't want an £80 fine for dropping a butt on the ground.
When I was surfing for the ashtrays I found that there are a lot of councils giving them away for free - it's not happening round here.
All we have is plastic rubbish bins which I'd be worried about putting a cigarette butt in for fear of setting the bin alight!
 Alpha Centauri

Joined: 5/14/2007
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Posted: 7/4/2007 5:03:53 AM
I dont know any gloating smokers and im not packing in myself. Fair enough a ban in the workplace but they've gone too far with this, publicans for example should be able to apply for smoking licenses according to their customers wishes.
I still enjoy a smoke despite the health nazis and an authoritarian government telling me what i should and shouldn't do.
They rake in a NET 6 billion revenues from smokers after costs to the NHS from smoke-related illness if everybody stopped (12 million in the UK) it wouldn't take a genius to work out how they'd make up the deficit in taxes.
 Piscesfem1969

Joined: 6/27/2007
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Posted: 7/4/2007 5:25:50 AM
Be interesting to see how you all cope with it

We have had the ban up here for a year now and all is fine.....no problems have arisen.

I like smoke free pubs, eating places etc etc.....

The ONLY thing i had a problem with was when a workman...joiner say...came into my home to work....i had to ask him if it was ok if i could smoke....im my OWN house!!!!

Luckily all workmen hav been fine about it......and if he did object i would have been ok i guess.......depending on my mood


Good luck to all the smokers ..........trust me, its a better place now!!

And before anyone says anythin.....YES i am a smoker!!!!
 djb65

Joined: 5/13/2007
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Posted: 7/4/2007 11:04:22 AM
I think a lot of relationships are going to start due to the "Going outside for a smoke".
Just imagine, a man, a woman start talking. Who knows what could happen? We probably wouldn't need this site.
 Blueskies123

Joined: 11/3/2006
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Posted: 7/4/2007 11:16:01 AM
Apparently i have heard in Ireland they call going for a ciggie 'smirting'
The menainf being 'smoking and flirting'

I'll let you know how it goes...but I'm not holding my breath!!
 lukrezia

Joined: 4/23/2007
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Posted: 7/4/2007 11:23:16 AM
When I was working and going into people's homes to interview them, LONG before this ban, many were polite enough to ask whether I minded if they had a cigarette. I used to say, "Of course not, it's your own home". But mostly they wouldn't light up. I thought that was very considerate.

Now, it's law. And not a bad thing, really.
 misslauz21

Joined: 7/18/2006
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Posted: 7/4/2007 1:37:29 PM
i suppose i'm one of the lucky ones it hasnt affected at my workplace.....i'm a dairy herd manager, there is only me, my boss and his dad who works on the farm, so i still get to smoke as its not an enclosed space.......my boss did once jokingly say to me when there was talk about the ban months ago that i couldn't smoke on the farm, so i politely told him to go fuck himself... hehe
 diamondgeeza

Joined: 6/29/2007
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Posted: 7/4/2007 2:13:22 PM
Since the introduction of the ban, i've noticed that most of the places set up in pubs and such have more non smokers in than smokers, same with places that i deliver to, the newly decorated canteens and rest rooms are empty because all the smokers are outside with their mates that smoke!
 Agricola

Joined: 6/2/2007
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Posted: 7/4/2007 2:24:01 PM
When a smoker can't go the night without needing a cigarette, maybe thats a sign they should quit.
 jakkedup

Joined: 2/1/2008
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Posted: 3/22/2008 12:45:39 PM
I'd be thrilled to death, if people cared as much about reducing pollution of our air with our vehicles/etc, as they do about smokers. But hey, here in the USA, I see absolutely no sign whatsoever that this is the case.

So, why the big hoopla over sm0ke free dining rooms, and then you hop in your "less than 15 mpg vehicle" and drive over 70 mph to work/etc? Bahh... most people could care less about anyone but themselves and it shows. Especially this "ban the smokers" bs. It's about time we ban the selfish who could care less that people are diing over this oil, just so that most people can continue being selfish and destructive to our environment.
 Brian_Hertfordshire

Joined: 2/11/2008
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Posted: 3/22/2008 12:58:28 PM
No excuse for anybody to gloat.

Although I am not a smoker and regard it as very unhealthy I would not gloat and I would defend smokers rights to smoke as long as it does not affect non-smokers.
 spiraldive

Joined: 3/3/2008
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Posted: 3/22/2008 2:00:02 PM
I would like to know why smokers feel they are entitled to more breaks at work than non-smokers? ??
 robbrighoue

Joined: 10/19/2007
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Posted: 3/23/2008 4:06:44 AM
Guess im lucky with being a van driver and can stop and get out and have a fag whenever i want.
But i have seen a few reports that the anti smoking lobby are now wanting smoking banned in outside beer gardens.Well hows about giving us smokers the advantage for a change. When(If ) the decent weather comes, then non smokers must stay inside the pub, unless accompanyed by a smoker, thus keeping them free of pollution and keeping the tutting, fake coughing, and dirty looks away from us smokers
 purple_sky2004

Joined: 8/30/2007
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Posted: 3/23/2008 4:24:02 AM
oh dear god I have had to deal with it a fair amount, a fair few of my mates are non smokers and whenever we are at the pub, and I go outside for a crafty fag, they always give me the whole "haha go outside and freeze!" which is really annoying, but hey...Im not fussed about it.

"I would like to know why smokers feel they are entitled to more breaks at work than non-smokers?"

Thats not entirely true, Im a smoker, and I get the same amount of breaks as the non smokers and I dont feel the need for anymore. Just because of the ban, there is no need for gloating or treating smokers like something you scraped off your shoe, So what if we smoke, its our problem, and (since the smoking ban )not any non smokers. Our body, our lungs,our choice, simple as that
 Kobayashi

Joined: 10/16/2007
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Posted: 3/23/2008 4:34:05 AM

Although I am not a smoker and regard it as very unhealthy I would not gloat and I would defend smokers rights to smoke as long as it does not affect non-smokers.
Yeah, I would like to concur with you except that smokers usually exhale as well!

OT, there is no reason for anyone to gloat... looks like some of you, unfortunately, have to work with immature minded individuals.

I recalled giving people lifts (being a hitch hiker myself in the 60s) who immediately whip out a cigarette and asked if I mind they smoke; I was always too polite to refuse them even though I hate it.
 Steve_Sandy

Joined: 3/19/2006
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Posted: 3/23/2008 5:01:42 AM
not into smoking, old man gave me a ciggy when was 5 years old to put me off, tried it when 12-13 and never gone back to it

Feel sorry for the hassle that smokers get, but being able to goto a bar and not have to shove all the clothes into the washing machine when I get home is a welcome change as they will stink of smoke and not want my house to stink of smoke either :)

Friend asked if I would let him smoke in my car, told him I had no problems, as long as the ciggy and his head were outside the car :) he never bothered to ask again as it is difficult....
 colditz

Joined: 7/26/2007
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Posted: 3/23/2008 6:36:08 AM
Oh but you think you're being all fantastic going outside to do it, but we know you're coming back even if we can't see you. We can SMELL you! Stinky stinky poooer
 Tin Hat Head

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Posted: 3/23/2008 6:52:18 AM
We can SMELL you! Stinky stinky poooer


And us smokers can see you non smokers inside the pub and have to listen to you moaning when we come back after giving our lungs a kickstart with the evil nicotine.
Some pubs can be pretty cold in winter but there even colder now because all the smokers are going outside which means that the doors are constantly being opened when we go for a fix..Which makes the pub colder..

Oh and as for the smell, it's great because now the smell of smoke is not in the pub, us smokers can smell the cheap tacky perfume and BO and cheesy farts that emits from the unwashed and unclean which we move away from and laugh at, so you see it's got benefits for us smokers as well.
 colditz

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Posted: 3/23/2008 7:16:14 AM
I like the constant flapping of the back door. It's like air conditioning, without the bacteria,
 enty of woth

Joined: 3/19/2008
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Posted: 3/23/2008 7:24:07 AM
I find there's a fundamental difference between the non smoker and anti smoker, namely the non smoker is not the type that gloats. My non smoking friends don't mind my habit, don't gloat, complain, **** etc and often will let me smoke in their houses/cars, but always decline when offered and never ask if I can.

Having said that, the antis and the nons complain equally now that the smokers all troup outside like a special secret club to which they're not allowed and left alone guarding the seats/table/bags etc! A knock on effect not considered?

I think the ban is great, I've made loads of new friends in the biting wind, even secured some work from meeting an agent outside a club in London!
 scrummy65

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Posted: 3/23/2008 8:07:28 AM
I'm a non smoker and I am enjoying smoke free places such as hospitals, restaurants, pubs/clubs/shopping centres etc. However I think there is nothing worse than walking into any of these places and having to hold my breath to get through the cloud of smoke at the front door. I do think that smokers should have a smoking area such as a room that is well ventilated in these places. The one thing I would like to see banned in the future is smoking in cars. There is nothing more disgusting than seeing people smoke in such a small environment, especially when they have children in the back seat, these children have no say in the matter and are subject to developing serious diseases later in life because of their thoughtless, selfish, irresponsible relatives.
 robbrighoue

Joined: 10/19/2007
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Posted: 3/23/2008 8:45:43 AM
Unfortunately a lot of pubs canot afford to provide such facilities as the ban has affected the pub trade. As for banning it in cars that should never be allowed to happen in private cars, I dont agree with smoking if there are kids in the car and i wouldnt do it, but to ban it would be outragous IMO its my car, my choice, if someone doesnt like it, walk
 Matt_fromcardiff

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Posted: 3/23/2008 9:02:37 AM

But i have seen a few reports that the anti smoking lobby are now wanting smoking banned in outside beer gardens.


I wouldn't pay too much attention to what the anti smoking lobby say, they sound like a bunch of raving loons foaming at the mouth.

The last demand i heard they made was that all films with smoking in should be re-classified with an 18 certificate. The cost to the tv and film industry would be astronomical to resubmit every film/tv show that has someone smoking a fag in it to the BBFC.

And the other one was banning smoking whilst driving, i read the report that they are touting as evidence that smoking causes accidents, and it's one tiny sentence right at the bottom, way below any high risk distraction, even further down past fiddling with the radio, which says 'smoking may cause accidends' (that's it!). In my opinion 'may' is hardly scientific proof of anything, and there's not a shred of evidence to back it up.

The most worrying thing is that some people actually take some of the stuff they say seriously.
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