| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 1:38:33 AM | | Here's some food for thought. How many of you actually believe that the moon landing in july 1969 by neil armstrong and buzz aldrin was actually real?This was a time of the great space race to the moon.... Against the russians. The americans won and since then, not a single person has gone back to the moon. Why? It's only been 40 years... yet britian launched an unmanned space probe to the moon a mere 6 months ago to find out what it was made of. hmmm... thoughts? | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 1:51:13 AM | I say it happened.
Aldrin and Armstrong weren't the only ones to land on the moon. I guess the Americans had done it enough times and decided they proved their point. And it's way more expensive when you compare a moon landing with a shuttle launch to the space station or a Hubble service call.
The latest unmanned probe has a lot more advanced equipment than what the lunar landers carried. After a few decades, maybe they figured out what to look for and where to find it. Back in 1969, they probably didn't even think of what they know what to look for now. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 2:02:58 AM | Ok, name one person, anyone at all, who was in on the fake, who has ever hinted at it.
Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collens would have had to been in on it, not to mention all the people at mission control and NASA.
Has any of them ever given even one single hint that it wasn't real. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 2:11:08 AM | | I'm not sure. There was a fox documentary many years ago that went over all the inconsistencies like crosshairs covered over in the pictures and since the crosshairs were on the camera lens they can't have been unless the photos were altered. There was one scientist who claimed they couldn't even leave orbit with a thin copper covering that they showed pics of, they would've been radiated toast etc. I just wonder why they haven't returned if it was so simple that many years ago. Plant a flag and vanish? why, that does make it seem suspect. You would think that they would want to go back in 20 years and make a celebration on the anniversary or something, a national holiday and visit the same spot - maybe see if the flag is still there lol. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 2:19:10 AM | The reason we never went back to the Moon is simply, Americans got bored with it and Congress didn't want to spend the money anymore. There were supposed to be 3 more landings after Apollo 17 but they were cancelled.
We Americans are very good at winning races, but we're not so good at following up for the long haul.
I don't know if the American people have the interest in going back to the
Moon anytime soon.
Don't be surprised if the next man to walk on the moon is Chinese. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 5:41:16 AM | | We absolutely landed on the moon. I believe this despite not being able to see the pictures. Were I ever to feel one of the rocks brought back, I doubt I'd be able to tell via touch that it wasn't from Earth. I have, of course, heard the voices of the astronauts and ground personell involved. Not for a moment have I had any reason to doubt their sincerity. I'm also certain despite never seeing it thatthe space shuttle is real and that we Canadians are a part of a multi-national effort which is building a space station where people currently live and work. Doubt can be a useful tool much like an acid bath helps archaeologists discover things about the bones they recover. However, if used to excess, it can destroy the very objects that it's supposed to help clean. Why is it today that absolutely every achievement and good deed is picked to shreds by needless doubt? The real proof is in the mark the moon landings made on the world I've grown up in having been born in 1974. It's a world who has benefited from many technolgies that our journeys into space have made possible and by the insights, both scientific and personal, brought back and shared. I doubt I could be typing this to everyyone on a talking computer as I am now if we hadn' gone to the moon. Instead of picking apart the achievments ofour ancestors, why not look forward and try to build a better future with achievments of our own? There's so much to learn, experience and do. As much as I'd love for money to be spent on afordable housing so that I could have a place of my own sooner than I will, I'm very glad our leaders have enough of a long-term view to recognise that the exploration of space is fundamentally worth-while. Frontiers can bring us closer together in our drive to understand what they can teach us. That kind of exploration of the soul is why I've always been a fan of good science fiction and fantasy. It's all the more inspiring when people like Mrs. Ansari who recently went to the international space station as a tourist share their experiences. I never wou have thought that space would smell like burnt almonds or stopped to consider just how much we take gravity for granted until I read her blog and heard her speak. Some people jst don't recognise altruism if it thwacks them on the skull. Journeys like sh took can't help but inspire good things down the road. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 6:15:50 AM | | Actually I believe we went to the moon a few times. The reason we do not go back is because the space money is spent on other endeavors. We learned all we can learn from landing on the moon. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 6:42:34 AM | Yea, it happened. Some people believe it never happened but it is hard to keep a secret for almost 40 years if so many were involved. It happened during the Vietnam War, people were angry with the gov't and trust in that institution was at an all time low (sound familiar?).
It was a space race with the Russians to see who would get a man on the moon first and the Americans won.
For the past 3 + decades, the emphasis, for the most part, has been on the shuttle program. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 7:28:30 AM | I remeber this, the teacher wheeled a tv into our class and another class stood in the back of our classroom to also watch. I have 2 questions perhaps someone here can answer.
1 Who took the film footage cause i saw them step off of a ladder and the angle looked from the ground.
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2 So why don't they use the moon anymore they clearly are doing things up there | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 9:51:23 AM | | We better have landed on the moon! It took all my energy as a little gaffer to keep my eyes open and glued to the TV, while wrapped up in a sleeping bag on the living room floor with my sister waiting for them to land. I was dying to see "little space men ala Bugs Bunny or Lost in Space" and all there was for all the hoopla in school and the news was an astronaut in a silver puffy suit bouncing around and then planting a flag! LOL..... Seriously...the amount of invention that can shortly after, is more then proof enough it happened. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 12:33:19 PM | | yes, i know we did.... i wonder if we could have a secret human colony living up there now, with all of our space stations , and missions orbitting the earth at any given time. I WOULDN'T BE SURPRIZED- if we did have a lunar colony right now, up there. The big question would be for what purpose????? | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 12:44:58 PM | Hey I found that video online of the fox doc lol
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1138935117048624484
Realistically , I don't know enough about space and engineering to be able to know for sure that it was possible.
The common consensus tho seems to be that it happened. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 12:46:01 PM | Thoroughly debunked. Search the net, you'll find tons of stuff debunking this. It's really not that hard to believe. Look around at what technology can do. Going to the moon is no big surprise, really.
Raises an interesting philosophical point, though. We act like we want 100% proof for everything, but it's not always there. A lot of things we think are 100% proven, we are really taking other people's word for.
Technically, I'm taking someone's (well, a lot of people's) word for it when I say I believe that Berlin exists. Doesn't mean there's any doubt that I'm right. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 1:28:30 PM | Some of the threads in this forum make me sad.
-We landed on the moon.
-Pearl Harbor was a mistake, not a ploy to get thousands of sailors killed so we could enter the war.
-Hitler is really dead.
-So is Elvis.
-A jumbo jet ramming a skyscraper and exploding could very well topple it.
-Saddam gassed the Kurds over and over again.
But, for the conspiracy lovers among us, I'll admit to you now that a few of them may have merit (but that doesn't mean you'll ever prove anything):
-Santa is not real, and neither are Jesus nor Rudolph.
-Hoffa is buried somewhere he'll never be found. Stop digging.
-Oprah may not be Satan, but she is definitely a lesser demon come to Earth to torture men.
-It's possible JFK made too many enemies in high places, but you're never going to find conclusive evidence, so get a hobby. I hear knitting is very relaxing. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 1:31:56 PM | Yes, of course we did. I watched it live on TV. Where do you think a lot of new technologies have come from? The only hoax about the moon landing is the belief in something that actually happened was a hoax. Calling the lunar landing a hoax is a hoax in itself. Besides that, you think they pulled off this"hoax" 6 times? And another thing. Don't you think the Russians would have made a really big stink about it if it had been a hoax?
And as far as the Fox video is concerned, they are the same people that ran that "alien autopsy". Now THAT was a HOAX! Just follow this link abou the lunar landing "hoax" from Fox: http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 1:47:38 PM | "I'm not sure. There was a fox documentary..."
Speaking of hoaxes!! 
Sorry, but the words "Fox" and "documentary" don't really belong together (unless, of course, you insert the word "mock" in between.)
"I remeber this, the teacher wheeled a tv into our class and another class stood in the back of our classroom to also watch. I have 2 questions perhaps someone here can answer.
1 Who took the film footage cause i saw them step off of a ladder and the angle looked from the ground.
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2 So why don't they use the moon anymore they clearly are doing things up there"
Re: question 1;
The shots you're speaking of were of the SECOND man to leave the module. The first man had already set up the camera.
Re: question 2;
Money. Seems that a lot of it is being spent on more 'worthwhile ' projects, (Iraq, anyone?)
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 6:14:58 PM | It's interesting that the ppl on the thread - do you believe in god didn't stir up as much idiot calling as this one.
Is it ridiculous to think that a single person could lie? no
Is it ridiculous to think that a group of ppl in a government position could lie? no less plausible than a single person
The op suggested their reasoning, sounds like a logical thing to me that there may have been a reason to hustle up a lie - time was ticking.
There are plenty of crackball conspiracy theories that have no basis in fact but at least the ppl that have mentioned the problems with the photos nasa released were obvious to layman, they don't require fanciful scenarios. If it makes you warm and cuddly inside to think that we went to the moon , enjoy the feeling.
If it makes me warm and cuddly inside to think that there was something fishy about having to alter photos, yipee , I can enjoy the feeling too.
It doesn't affect my life to believe or not that we made it to setting human legs on the moon. Why does it work ppl up so? This science/philo forum area is easy to heat ppl up i see and there is lots of name calling that should be curbed. I expected to find the educated or trying to become educated here, not big-mouthed blowhards, or have they become one and the same now.
About the alien autopsy, no I didn't buy that for a second lol so maybe I get to be half a crackpot today. :D | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/22/2007 8:07:25 PM |
Seems that the 'problems' with the photos have been explained quite well; in little words that even the 'layman' can comprehend; no 'fanciful scenarios' required!
Which post refuted them, the crosshair problems. Did it get deleted somewhere? It's not here now. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/23/2007 2:30:25 AM |
Is it ridiculous to think that a group of ppl in a government position could lie? no less plausible than a single person
Wow don't know much about human behavior do you?
Anywhere, here is all the debunking you could ever need,
http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/PSEUDOSC/ConspiracyTheoryDidWeGototheMoon.htm
Talks about the crosshairs and background.
here is another point for you. You think the cold war Russians wouldn't have freaking blown this conspiracy out of the water? They can bloody track objects in space you know. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/23/2007 3:34:24 AM |
Who took the film footage cause i saw them step off of a ladder and the angle looked from the ground.
The camera was already mounted on the leg of the LEM (that's Lunar Excursion Module) built by Grumman Aerospace in Bethpage NY. So no one was standing there with a camera filming Neil Armstrong. It was already in position to broadcast his descent off the ladder onto the lunar surface. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/23/2007 8:29:44 AM |
Anywhere, here is all the debunking you could ever need,
http://www.uwgb.edu/DutchS/PSEUDOSC/ConspiracyTheoryDidWeGototheMoon.htm
That's what I'm talking about, good post - its even on the exact program I had seen, thanks. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/23/2007 5:38:25 PM | | Of course the US landed on the moon! God, I can't believe some people believe these microcephalic maladroits who have time to sit around and think up these stupid conspiracy theories. Look at their so-called 'evidence' and you'll see that they have no idea what the heck they are talking about. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/23/2007 6:13:14 PM | CharlesEdm and many others mention valid points. Why not visit again? Got the T-shirt answer comes to mind, so just go and enjoy a nice glass of Tang. Mars seems to be our next stepping stone.
Do I think the US landed on the Moon? Without question, but the most amazing aspect to me now it that it was done with slide rule technology. I actually have one of the many slide rules that were used to make this possible. It was used by my father, a Metallurgical Engineer for NASA during this time who helped work on the development of the heat shields for the Apollo missions.
There's almost more 'technology' in our Microwave ovens today than what they had back then. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/23/2007 7:15:37 PM |
There's almost more 'technology' in our Microwave ovens today than what they had back then.
Exactly.
So how was it this supposed event took place "back then?"
People will believe anything they see on the TV. It's kind of disgusting. | |
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| Do you believe we landed on the moon?
Posted: 7/23/2007 9:15:19 PM | Common, everyone knows that the moon is made of cheese and that we went there to mine some of it!
The less known fact is that when one of your socks vanishes or when you can not find something you are looking for, it is because these items ended up on the surface of the moon due to a special bidirectional gravity field no one has discovered yet. That is what all these shapes you see are, other then the wholes that naturally appear in space cheese.
Hope that clears things up once and for all.... | |
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