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 Goddess of dreams
Joined: 5/12/2007
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I was just sitting and thinking , and "When a man loves a woman" came to my head. I was wondering really in reality is this happening? Do men think that way? If yes, how come not many show it?
Why do they give up so easily, I always thought if a man truly loves he will fight and do anything to let her know and wouldn’t give up.
I did a search and found the same song has been used on the forums but not in this context

Whatever happened to all those good old romantic loving men? Why are they so scared? I wish I could go back in time and start in the 1950's.


Am I to old fashion? or Just a Dreamer?

What do you know that I don't?




When a man loves a woman
Can't keep his mind on nothin' else
He'd trade the world
For a good thing he's found
If she is bad, he can't see it
She can do no wrong
Turn his back on his best friend If he puts her down

When a man loves a woman
Spend his very last dime
Trying to hold on to what he needs
He'd give up all his comforts
And sleep out in the rain
If she said that's the way
It ought to be

When a man loves a woman

I give you everything I've got
Trying to hold on
To your precious love
Baby please don't treat me bad

When a man loves a woman
Deep down in his soul
She can bring him such misery
If she is playing him for a fool
He's the last one to know
Loving eyes can never see

Yes when a man loves a woman
I know exactly how he feels
'Cause baby, baby, baby
I am a man
When a man loves a woman
 lovableladywanted
Joined: 5/14/2006
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When a man loves a woman
Posted: 8/5/2007 10:36:41 PM
I believe that LOVE should not be a game. Its ironic if you think about it. They say that if you love something set it free , if it comes back its meant to be. I treat ladies with due respect but most important thing is self respect and you have to love yourself first , righttt ? The point is I believe truly I am a good catch for the 'right lady' and there is no need for me to play into someone elses games. I want no part of that , but that said I will always treat ladies with respect and maintain my own self composure.
 Ron9
Joined: 8/10/2004
Msg: 3
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Posted: 8/5/2007 10:36:55 PM
That is a beautiful song.

If I had a gf I would sing her “At Last” but I don’t have a gf and - when I sing - I can’t find my dog for days.
 Goddess of dreams
Joined: 5/12/2007
Msg: 4
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Posted: 8/5/2007 10:54:01 PM

They say that if you love something set it free , if it comes back its meant to be.

Maybe so, but it says "set it free", a woman that you love shouldn't be itand if you set her free, she may never come back, thinking you didn't love her enough.

Is it really a game? Maybe not. Its more than a game, it's more so an assurance or better said reassurance.
 patrol sgt
Joined: 4/16/2007
Msg: 5
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Posted: 8/5/2007 10:57:51 PM
its out there...that kinda love..of that im sure
 44magnum
Joined: 6/9/2007
Msg: 6
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Posted: 8/5/2007 11:06:03 PM
Reassurance? I totally believe in showing a woman my love for her. But to constantly reassure? Gets a little OLD. iF she has to be constantly reassured then I feel she has a problem with self-love! JMO.
 eazk
Joined: 9/8/2006
Msg: 7
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Posted: 8/5/2007 11:14:59 PM
Well Goddess~, for starters, you're on a web site in which most of the men have not had love and forever go the way they wanted...so there's a wariness factor to them.

And, just because the dream is out there does not mean that every man has to match up with every broken woman. At one time I came to the realization that in excess of 75% of the women in my neck of the woods whom I had spoken to had been victims of abuse, physical or sexual. That's a whole lot more broken souls to contend with.

So, cut everyone some slack if the first thing out of the box they're not pouring their heart out on their sleeve again. It takes time to get to know someone, and regardless of how she feels...or wants to feel, not every intro hello and first date is LOVE.

 lovableladywanted
Joined: 5/14/2006
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Posted: 8/5/2007 11:18:21 PM
^^^ Exactly , Why should a guy that treats a lady properly have to keep 'proving' his worth to "said" lady? I liked this lady on here and she has many obligations in her personal life , getting her career on track mostly. We went out once and she was fair with me in letting me know that. I called her fairly regularly about once a week or every 10 days or so or thereabouts. I did this about 4 times and she never called me. I am not mad at the lady because she was upfront. The point is I made a valiant effort to get to know the lady better , and she is a lady shes a good person. At some point I decided to MOVE ON. I wish this lady well and harbor no ill will. I do not want to be put into stalker category and that is what most decent men are concerned with.
 libby1217
Joined: 8/26/2006
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Posted: 8/5/2007 11:34:36 PM
it's mostly cause women have changed......back in the day...the guy worked and took care of his family....the woman raised the children and appreciated her husband....now women have to work, so they don't appreciate there men like they should....
 Eric48
Joined: 2/7/2007
Msg: 10
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Posted: 8/6/2007 12:58:45 AM

Do men think that way?

Yeah ... sometimes ...


But it was just my imagination -- once again --
running away with me.

It was just my imagination
running away with me ...


 Goddess of dreams
Joined: 5/12/2007
Msg: 11
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Posted: 8/6/2007 1:50:20 AM
Re message 7:
So, cut everyone some slack if the first thing out of the box they're not pouring their heart out on their sleeve again. It takes time to get to know someone, and regardless of how she feels...or wants to feel, not every intro hello and first date is LOVE.


I hear what you are saying; I hear it loud and clear.
I am not really talking about men here, I am sure there are men who may have not been in long term relationships and are also here though. Probably I am kind of wary of men here anyway so they have to do extra convincing since I didn’t come to pof with dating intentions.
I am more so talking about men in general out there not pof and I suppose those out there are here as well. I feel men fear us female now and are a little scared.

Re message 6:
if she has to be constantly reassured then I feel she has a problem with self-love



I do understand once you are in a relationship reassurance is needed but not as strongly as getting the relationship going. Probably you need strong assurance before and reassurance in any form you like, is just healthy and natural and both genders in a relationship need them. Too much, yes I agree it just not necessary unless there is something wrong either with the relationship or as you call it problem with self love.

Re message 8:
I do not want to be put into stalker category and that is what most decent men are concerned with


Yessss, that is what I wonder at times if the dirty stalkers have made it hard for the true blue romantic at heart. God they spoilt the treat.

But there are still ways you could do to first see if the woman is interested or not and then do the mission (not using words such as , chasing, game or others since people can take it the wrong way)
 * L *
Joined: 7/13/2007
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Posted: 8/6/2007 2:18:03 AM

But to constantly reassure? Gets a little OLD.


I think here is a differance between too much (as OP mentioned above) and constant reasurance (re quote)

I feel there's no such thing as too much love...
I keep getting and giving more and more Love..
just when I think I couldn't have any more to give or receive , more fills my heart and I give some away & more keeps coming back - I still havent found that 'too much' love , I dont think it exsists..

If a woman feels loved , so will the man, not sure its a reassurance thing ...its a "FEELING"


(geesh I hope I made sense it does in my head)
 strngrintwn
Joined: 7/19/2007
Msg: 13
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Posted: 8/6/2007 3:14:26 AM
OP the song is one sided and probably quite outdated by todays standards

Give up because it saves yourself respect, that song was probably written in an era where it made sense, times have changed. Men/Women give up because there is a few more distractions about, they probably dont veiw relationships as strongly as they use to and people have become more disposable.

The song (or atleast the sentiments) dont hold as much sway just like "stand by your man" probably dosent.


Why do they give up so easily, I always thought if a man truly loves he will fight and do anything to let her know and wouldn’t give up.


and just what is this said woman doing in the mean time while the said guy "Can't keep his mind on nothin' else". How long is he suppose to keep fighting till she puts him out of his misery or call the cops to tell them theres a man sleeping outside her house in the rain?

Im not sure if you mean to take the song literally but in anycase I hope you get my drift. Men or perhaps the one the OP has met are scared because they probably have tried this and it didnt work out so now they save themselves the trouble and the ultimate self loathing when the results go against them.
 weelexy1980
Joined: 3/5/2007
Msg: 14
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Posted: 8/6/2007 3:40:57 AM
Message: it's mostly cause women have changed......back in the day...the guy worked
and took care of his family....the woman raised the children and appreciated her
husband....now women have to work, so they don't appreciate there men like the
should....

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Thats crap!!! How can the women have changed, its the cost of living and life style... Yes there is some career minded women out there, that dont want all that ...

Hell i would love to stay at home and raise my children with a man i loved supporting
our family ... but how can this be possible??? unless i marry a millionaire

so in the mean time i will work to support my ass and when said millionaire comes
along i wont have to
 Goddess of dreams
Joined: 5/12/2007
Msg: 15
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Posted: 8/6/2007 4:23:01 AM
message 14:
and just what is this said woman doing in the mean time while the said guy "Can't keep his mind on nothin' else". How long is he suppose to keep fighting till she puts him out of his misery or call the cops to tell them theres a man sleeping outside her house in the rain?


Oh where is that man? Oh where is he? I would make him hot cups of tea and nice hot chocolate . does such heart exisit???????????????????

Look one thing, non of us should forget is, there should be signs there so neither gets confused.

Oh my god lets turn back clocks, I want to go back to where there was taste and love.


The song (or atleast the sentiments) dont hold as much sway just like "stand by your man" probably dosent


Sometimes it's hard to be a woman
Givin' all your love to just one man
You'll have bad times, and he'll have good times
Doin' things that you don't understand

But if you love him, then you'll forgive him
Even though he's hard to understand
And if you love him, oh, be proud of him
'Cause after all he's just a man

Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And somethin' warm to come to
When nights are cold and lonely

Stand by your man
And show the world you love him
Keep givin' all the love you can
Stand by your man

Stand by your man
And show the world you love him
Keep givin' all the love you can
Stand by your man

Well guess what all that says, I am sure you’ll find most women still practice, anyway most women I know and then there odd ones that don’t, but I think for some reason they have become the majority. I for one still follow that song, although it’s older than “when a man loves a woman”
 jiggy1
Joined: 4/28/2007
Msg: 16
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Posted: 8/6/2007 4:48:35 AM
It is to bad todays society has made it hard for us hopeless romantics!

Bryan Adams - Have You Ever Really Loved A Woman lyrics

To really love a woman
To understand her
You've got to know what deep inside
Hear every thought see every dream
And give her wings when she wants to fly
And when you find yourself lying helpless in her arms
You know you really love a woman

When you love a woman
You tell her that she's really wanted
When you love a woman
You tell her that she's the one
She needs somebody
To tell her that it's gonna last forever
So tell me have you ever really
Really, reallly
Ever loved a woman?

To really love a woman
To let her hold you
Till you know how she needs to be touched
You've gotta breath her
And really taste her
Until you can feel her in your blood
When you can see your unborn children in her eyes
You know you really love a woman

When you love a woman
You tell her that she's really wanted
When you love a woman
You tell that she's the one
She needs somebody
To tell her that you'll always be together
So tell me have you've ever really,
Really, really ever loved a woman?

You've got to give her some faith
Hold her tight
A little tenderness
You've gotta treat her right
She will be there foryou
Taking good care of you
(you've really gotta love your woman) (yeah)
And when you find yourself lying helpless in her arms
You know you really love a woman

When you love a woman
You tell her that she's really wanted
When you love a woman
You tell her that she's the one
She needs somebody
To tell her that it's gonna last forever
So tell me have you ever, really
Really, really, ever loved a woman?
Just tell me have you ever really,
Really, really, ever loved a woman?
Just tell me have you ever really,
Really, really, ever loved a woman?
 strngrintwn
Joined: 7/19/2007
Msg: 17
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Posted: 8/6/2007 4:55:08 AM
Dont get me wrong "Goddess of dreams" I think its nice to have someone be that dedicated to you, but in todays society people call it being clingy, desperate and dare i say it obsessive, the nice qualities that those sentiments use to have have now come to be seen as a sign of weakness rather than a sign of love.

The stand by your man song


there should be signs there so neither gets confused.


Like what OP? people are probably quite caged nowadays and you spend half the time trying to figure out what the signs are or are they just playing about.

When i was in my last relationship i actually got a whole of a few songs from the "when a man loves a woman" era its a nice song (im listening to it now actually). lol. I got hold of wonderdful world (no not the louis Armstrong one, the Sam Cooke one) as well, there all nice songs with wonderful words that make you all nostalgic but perhaps thats where they should stay in the past?

Then again you may be fortunate and find one tho OP so keep looking.
 shoree
Joined: 4/29/2007
Msg: 18
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Posted: 8/6/2007 5:35:54 AM
Ron9....I am cracking up!

Anyway, OP....that is such a beautiful thought. Yes, I always wanted to believe that when a man loves you, he will fight for you to the very end.

I've found that some men are very battle-scarred from life, though, and DO give up the minute things seem to get difficult.

But let's not slam all men. Some women are so emotionally beaten up that they constantly 'test' their man, tossing him little challenges and playing games just to get them to 'prove' their love.

Sigh.

I think all you can do is practice kindness, empathy and self-respect and along the way, you will hopefully meet and attract a man who cherishes those qualities in a woman and has the strength to stand by you when life is hard.

Always be a STRONG woman who can take care of herself, too! Independence is a good trait to have.
 mlm_mlm_mlm
Joined: 4/29/2007
Msg: 19
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Posted: 8/6/2007 5:38:49 AM
Maybe its not so much men are at fault...
that they are cold, unloving or non romantic...

but they get women who are basically needy sponges of insecurity and problems.
Maybe its real men who meet real women and real women who meet real men.
 g54cs
Joined: 4/12/2007
Msg: 20
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Posted: 8/6/2007 6:04:37 AM
"Whatever happened to all those good old romantic loving men?"
My grandfather was the last one. At least that's what my
grandmother told us.

"when I sing - I can’t find my dog for days".
Too funny, Ron. Mine covers her ears and peeks
at me all confused.
 allshookup98
Joined: 4/22/2006
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Posted: 8/6/2007 6:27:17 AM
I love the old songs. Seems like they said so much more than the ones these days do.

I'm just curious though I looked at your profile and you said you weren't single weren't looking..

Have things changed with you or are you missing those things in you realationship??

Maybe you're only passing time.

It is a beautiful dream though.

I think there are a lot of us dreamers out here..
 mietzele2
Joined: 4/28/2007
Msg: 22
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Posted: 8/6/2007 6:37:51 AM
Goddess:

Rather than focus on one or two lines of a song that may be considered out-dated or inappropriate, I am assuming that you are wondering if the basic premise of a romantic man, who would do anything to show his love for a woman still exists.

The answer is yes. I just recently met one (on POF, no less!), and he is a true romantic. Although our relationship is in it's infancy, he has done many things to show me that his intentions toward me are seriously heading toward 'happily ever after' (so to speak). I do not perceive hime to be needy, out of date, or out of touch with reality. Just a true blue romantic at heart.

And that suits me just fine, as I am one also. I can't begin to tell you what a wonderful feeling that is, when it is mutual.

Keep the faith, those men are out there, every bit as much as we women are.

*C*
 Charlie Shift
Joined: 12/5/2006
Msg: 23
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Posted: 8/6/2007 7:49:10 AM
What the writer is describing is, in my opinion, the kind of love that some people have for their significant other and for their children/family members. It IS love to them, and they can see no fault in that person. It's the "love is blind" theory. For the rest of us, we see everything, flaws and faults, and we choose to accept them as they are and continue loving them anyway. I'm in the latter category and there were times raising my daughters that I wished I'd had that blind love!

All that being said, I think men do have deep feelings about someone they're in love with but don't show it as easily or as quickly as women do. As children, girls are taught to be more in tune with their feelings than boys. As males form relationships with females, they are more able to discover and identify their feelings as they mature, presuming, of course, that the female is mature enough to be able to identify and express her innermost feelings. And that's not always the case. I believe men have difficulty expressing their feelings and are hesitant to do so even when they know what they are, and women, especially younger women, don't realize how difficult it's been for a guy to share his feelings with her, and she may not nurture him. If a young man gets his feelings thrown back in his face a time or two, he may retreat and vow never to make that mistake again. And the girl, as she becomes a woman, will wonder what in the world is wrong with men that they don't just tell her how they feel. And the world goes on.
 Goddess of dreams
Joined: 5/12/2007
Msg: 24
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Posted: 8/6/2007 8:13:28 AM
Message 13:

(geesh I hope I made sense it does in my head)



It does make sense for my head too, but we are both women

hopefully this gives men an idea what goes inside women’s head


Message 17
Bryan Adams - Have You Ever Really Loved A Woman lyrics


Guess what that was my wedding dance opener or whatever you call it. I asked the dj for “Come rain or come shine” but he couldn’t find it(maybe I can now play it with my true man) and so this was it. But I don’t think my husband then, didn’t listened to the words, he just danced to it.

Come Rain or Come Shine By RAY CHARLES.(sorry I can’t resist not putting the lyrics here)
Come rain or come shine
I guess when you met me
It was just one of those things
But don't you ever bet me
'Cause I'm gonna be true if you let me
You're gonna love me, like nobody's loved me
Come rain or come shine
We'll be happy together, unhappy together
Now won't that be just fine
The days may be cloudy or sunny
We're in or out of the money
But I'm with you always
I'm with you rain or shine


Message 18

Like what OP? people are probably quite caged nowadays and you spend half the time trying to figure out what the signs are or are they just playing about.



Signs are usually very obvious just listen to your heart and of course your brain will guide the heart. That is most of you guys’ problem always thinking of “game playing” but we don’t play the game we “play it safe”.


Message 19

I think all you can do is practice kindness, empathy and self-respect and along the way, you will hopefully meet and attract a man who cherishes those qualities in a woman and has the strength to stand by you when life is hard.


Always be a STRONG woman who can take care of herself, too! Independence is a good trait to have


I like to think I am most of the above. I think most women are too.
I was born with them and along the way also learnt more and hopefully will learn even more.

Message 20

Maybe its not so much men are at fault...
that they are cold, unloving or non romantic...



I am not saying they are cold and unloving, I am sure they are both warm and loving, I just think the oomph has disappeared for some reason or maybe it hasn’t disappeared but is buried. I wanted to see why, is it something that we have done or is not in mode to be passionate. Lots of old modes are coming back, maybe that’s a good one to bring back too.


Message 22

I'm just curious though I looked at your profile and you said you weren't single weren't looking..



I am not in any type relationship.
I am not single, well it’s kind of true, I have a child, how can I be single?
I am not looking, is true, but I didn’t say “don’t look for me"
Funny how all that happened, I came by chance here on POF not knowing it was dating site, when I registered I realised.
Got few friends on too, then the dating part of it was a joke to us, we thought lets see how men operate we got on the phone and all messaged one man same time, guess what? Some of the men here are expert, he chatted with 3 at the same time, problem with delays, he was a man and very slow in typing, sure, slow, managed 3 at once. And I am not talking about one man. See men like that make you wonder
How many template messages from same men did we get? Please don’t ask
I had even a funny one, I change my photos often and there was this guy who send me exact message 4 times, even though each time I let him know and he apologised, but funny thing he didn’t even read profiles and even the pictures all me in it, so he must not even look at the pictures.

How could I trust? But I am glad I am here pOF runs in my blood and I have found fabulous friends here.

Message 23:

I am assuming that you are wondering if the basic premise of a romantic man, who would do anything to show his love for a woman still exists.



Yes that is what I want to know. And at least I know there are some thanks to you



Keep the faith, they are out there



I kind of know there are and you know what?I kind of know that is what I’ll get, because that is what I want.

I think men like that are usually very strong and smart probably that is why I am so attracted to that type of romance.
 Harry Peter
Joined: 12/25/2006
Msg: 25
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Posted: 8/6/2007 8:20:06 AM
I only like the song when played backwards.
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