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 christianmom

Joined: 10/11/2006
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/15/2007 12:05:46 AM
Has anyone tried this diet and if so how did it work for you? I have been reading the book and started using some of the methods that it implies. I am just wondering if anyone else has experienced it and if you followed it to a tee or if you can vary a bit and still loose.
 newguyinventura

Joined: 5/18/2006
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/15/2007 2:20:49 AM
Well, here's what I found from not buying the book.

From Publishers Weekly
Eat everything. Concentrate on whole grains. Drink milk. Balance protein with carbohydrates. Avoid processed sugars. Do some exercise. The idea that a diet book making such proposals comes as a pleasant surprise shows just how far afield we've gone in the search for new ways to be fit. The only thing new about this diet by the editor-in-chief of Men's Health is its name, and this, one can presume, is because nowadays, a book simply called "Sensible Eating" wouldn't sell. The book's title is indeed misleading; only the final chapter deals solely with abs. The rest is full of rational recommendations for a realistic diet plan: eat more and smaller meals; have oatmeal in the morning for a nourishing breakfast; don't starve yourself; drink plenty of water; and stay away from sodas and foods that contain high-fructose corn syrup. Whether readers will, in the end, walk away with abs of steel is not really the point. They'll control their weight in a healthy way, without counting calories, cutting out whole food groups or supporting the beef futures market. Best of all, this book tells readers why it works: increase your body's metabolism, gain some muscle and fat burns away. The authors make this seem like a fresh and very attainable ideal.
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

Basically he put common sense into a book and named it Abs Diet. I am seriously thinking of writing a book, this is crazy.

Diet's only work when you change your lifestyle. Sure you may lose weight for a couple months and look great, but, eventually if you don't change your eating habits/lifestyle. You will become bored of exercising and gain all the weight back. It all breaks down to the simplest health motto "Eat Right and Exercise".
 Alpina

Joined: 3/23/2006
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/15/2007 3:00:47 AM
I've not read the book, but the premise seems silly to me. There's no more of an "abs" diet as an arms/cheeks/fingers diet. Bodies mostly collect fat in areas determined by genes, and there's nothing I can think of that you could eat that will target one area.

The secret to tight abs is low body fat %. You can get there via your diet -- in fact your diet is the biggest factor. The name may be silly, but the meals I just read on the Men's Health website are pretty solid. I'd skip the Guac and Roll dish because avocados are high in fat compared to most other fruit.
 M.I.

Joined: 2/2/2007
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/15/2007 8:46:18 AM

I'd skip the Guac and Roll dish because avocados are high in fat compared to most other fruit.


Wrong.

I don't know what else in is in the "guac", but healthy fats are a necessary part of weight loss.
Avocados fall into this category, they are full of healthy fats, and one of the best sources to eat.

Just watch your total calories that day to allow for a portion.

By no means, "skip" or eliminate them!!
 newguyinventura

Joined: 5/18/2006
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/15/2007 10:03:34 AM
Just eat olive oil if you're worried about fat in your diet.
 UAnimosity

Joined: 11/26/2006
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/15/2007 6:10:11 PM
Isn't body shaping a myth and been debunked by some American study a while back? I don't think it really matters what specific foods you eat, if you don't eat healthy and do crunches(Or some other form of abdominal exercise), chances are you're not going to have a 6 pack for a very long time.
 justagirrl

Joined: 5/10/2007
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/15/2007 6:18:12 PM
You don't need a diet book to get your abs to show.
 newguyinventura

Joined: 5/18/2006
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/15/2007 11:08:48 PM
6 pack = Body Fat Percentage

If you're a guy and you hit around 8-10% BF, your abs will show.

If your a woman, prolly around 12-15% BF.

I think the diet is the hardest part, especially in the American culture of "eat a lot, often". Guys should stick to a 40/40/20 split when actually cutting down, women, I have no idea as I haven't really researched woman specific dieting.
 Alpina

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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/16/2007 1:53:04 AM

Wrong.

I don't know what else in is in the "guac", but healthy fats are a necessary part of weight loss.
Avocados fall into this category, they are full of healthy fats, and one of the best sources to eat.

Just watch your total calories that day to allow for a portion.

By no means, "skip" or eliminate them!!


Oh, I'm never wrong -- merely partially incorrect. I pay my therapist double the normal rate to insure that.

I agree that avocados are good -- high in B vitamins. But if your goal is ripped-looking abs, choose fruits like pears and apples over avocados. Avocados are about as high as any fruit on the calorie chart.
 calvinWinks

Joined: 7/31/2007
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Posted: 8/16/2007 10:15:24 AM
Hey Christianmom!

Yes I have tried this Abs diet and several of my friends too. It is good! However you have to workout too. I can feel that my metabolism has increased a lot. I really like the Abs Diet Recipe book! :-)
 christianmom

Joined: 10/11/2006
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/17/2007 7:58:23 PM
Thanks to all responses especially you Calvin that is what I wanted to know. I do enjoy the recipes as well. I started on Monday and am at this point down 5 so I think I can stick with this and though it says that you can wait the two weeks before starting the workout routine I did start it on Tuesday and combined Monday and Tuesday and Wed really felt the burn, it was great.
 Buh-Bye!

Joined: 10/21/2006
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/17/2007 10:22:59 PM

I agree that avocados are good -- high in B vitamins. But if your goal is ripped-looking abs, choose fruits like pears and apples over avocados. Avocados are about as high as any fruit on the calorie chart.


Nope, too many carbs and fructose in pears and apples when cutting, which only increases insulin and stores fat. There are far better carb sources for cutting. (getting "ripped looking abs" as you call it)

What source do you use for your fats when cutting (if you've ever cut)????? If you say olive oil only, how do you incorporate it into your diet? And why "just" olive oil?
 newguyinventura

Joined: 5/18/2006
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/17/2007 11:45:51 PM
Some infos on olive oil.


http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/olive-oil.htm


Only eating olive oil seems to be mostly a body builder thing in the groups I'm around. No one I know would willingly submit themselves to a diet that strict, but it is super healthy.
 christianmom

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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/18/2007 12:09:52 AM
Newguy,

Thanks for your take on the book but for someone like me who use to be a lot more fit than my present state and needed something to remind you of the principles of the way life needs to be to keep you from getting in an unhealthy state, it is beneficial. I use it for the recipes as well as the work out plan. It works for me and I do incorporate the olive oil.

For whoever asked how do you use the olive oil, there are many ways:

Since I have conciderably restricted my diet from fried foods I use it in my protein shakes never even know it is there and you do not need much just a little so it works perfectly adding it this way. Also should I have the craving for a fried food which i have learned that totally restricting myself from anything is just asking for disaster (notice I said considerably restricted) I will use it instead of the unhealthy (in my opinion) oils such as veg. oil.

In any case as was said earlier in this thread it is a lifestyle change and not a diet that gets you where you need to be so you have to be willing to make changes.
 M.I.

Joined: 2/2/2007
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/18/2007 5:41:41 AM
NewGuy:

I agree, it is a bodybuilder thing mostly. I was asking because Alpina doesn't seem to have much knowledge of carbs (especially fruits) during a cut, and also disagrees with eating avocados, which many sources recommend.

Trying to figure out where his athleticism is, because his dietary knowledge is lacking. I would be surprised if 100% of his fat intake was all olive oil. Healthy fats are very important in a proper cutting diet.

It seems that only BBrs are able to do this successfully, or close to.....and while Alpina may lift, he doesn't appear to do so competitively.
 justagirrl

Joined: 5/10/2007
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/18/2007 11:07:04 AM
Nope, too many carbs and fructose in pears and apples when cutting, which only increases insulin and stores fat.


You do realize that protein spikes insulin as well, yes? You can't store fat when you're in a deficit to begin with.

It's a BB myth that you can't eat fruit and get lean.
 JackelDrew123

Joined: 8/14/2007
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The Abs Diet by David Zinczenko
Posted: 8/18/2007 3:06:42 PM
The old lessons are the best. Eat right, do your exercise, get that cardio going, and those abs will show. Also, remember it isn't a sprint, its a marathon. It will take time, dedication, and perserverence to get those results. I'm essentially starting out with being in the gym 4 times a week for only a month, and results will come with effort. Don't get discouraged, that 6 pack will take some time.
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