| Porn Control in the US Posted: 8/22/2007 9:10:37 AM |
FEDS' PORN ULTIMATUM
August 19, 2007 -- Ron Jeremy, Jenna Jameson - get ready to stand and be counted.
The Department of Justice wants to come up with an official list of every porn star in America - and slap stiff penalties on producers who don't cooperate.
The new rules, proposed under the Adam Walsh Child Safety and Protection Act, would require blue-movie makers to keep photos, stage names, professional names, maiden names, aliases, nicknames and ages on file for the inspection of the department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section.
"The identity of every performer is critical to determining and ensuring that no performer is a minor," according to the new proposal.
The adult film industry plans to challenge the new rule as a violation of the First Amendment, said Paul Cambria, a lawyer for Hustler and other adult film companies.
He sees it as a way to harass legitimate stag-film producers.
"If they can't get you for obscenity, they'll get you for violating record-keeping," he said. Such a violation would carry a five-year penalty.
The proposed rule would require porn producers to give the title of the video or magazine, or the Web address where the actor appears.
The Department of Justice has shown some sensitivity for the performers' privacy, however. All information not essential to proving their age and identity, like phone numbers and addresses, can be withheld.
Distributors of foreign pornography aren't off the hook - they must still produce a copy of the foreign actor's identification card. The department estimates that there are 500,000 Web sites, 200 DVD producers and 5,000 businesses nationwide that would be subject to the new rule.
The department did not respond to requests for comment, but in its proposal suggested that the benefits outweighed any negative impact on the porn industry.
"The benefit of the rule is that children will be better protected from exploitation in the production of visual depictions of sexually explicit conduct by ensuring that only those who are at least 18 years of age perform in such depictions. The costs to the industry include slightly higher record-keeping costs," the agency argued.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08192007/news/nationalnews/feds_porn_ultimatum_nationalnews_janon_fisher.htm
wow..as bad as exploitation is..I see this as MORE STRONG ARM Government crap. They are going after the porn industry..WHY would the US government need Ron Jeremy's info..(he is by now a little past the danger here isn't he?)..There are other ways ...WITHOUT trampling the Constitution to abuse a segment of citizens rights. Sounds like the Gonzales Ashcroft Bush Religious Right "values"......Sounds like if you are nekked you are Guilty UNTIL registered innocent... | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 8/22/2007 11:08:44 PM | | I believe we already have stringent laws concerning this. Google '2257'. | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 8/22/2007 11:45:22 PM | The decapitated son of t.v. host John Walsh (who rode his son's murder to stardom). Adam Walsh, was never involved in the porn industry.
would require blue-movie makers to keep photos, stage names, professional names, maiden names, aliases, nicknames and ages on file for the inspection of the department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section. This has already been Federal law for well over a decade.
Mayhaps the blog you got this "new" information from is full of shit.
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 8/23/2007 9:46:03 AM |
This has already been Federal law for well over a decade.
if that is the case why is the gov deciding to start to enforce it all of a sudden? its simple a smoke screen to stir up the voting base to make you look away from government failures.
if you have a naked pic of some girl on your computer are you required to have her info to prove she is +18. this is just another government program to tell us what can do and say. | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 8/23/2007 9:54:54 AM |
The decapitated son of t.v. host John Walsh (who rode his son's murder to stardom). Adam Walsh, was never involved in the porn industry.
That's an extremely cynical thing to say. John Walsh became an advocate for children's safety and because of that activism, he was approached to so the show. John Walsh loved his son and dedicated his life to helping protect children and catch criminals and "America's Most Wanted" made a wonderful vehicle to do just that. | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 8/23/2007 12:53:10 PM | Authoritarian religious factions have been on a roll ever since Bush got into office . | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 8/23/2007 6:00:38 PM |
Congress began funding the obscenity initiative in fiscal 2005 and specified that the FBI must devote 10 agents to adult pornography. The bureau decided to create a dedicated squad only in the Washington Field Office. "All other field offices may investigate obscenity cases pursuant to this initiative if resources are available," the directive from headquarters said. "Field offices should not, however, divert resources from higher priority matters, such as public corruption."
Public corruption, officially, is fourth on the FBI's priority list, after protecting the United States from terrorist attack, foreign espionage and cyber-based attacks. Just below those priorities are civil rights, organized crime, white-collar crime and "significant violent crime." The guidance from headquarters does not mention where pornography fits in.
"The Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation's top priority remains fighting the war on terrorism," said Justice Department press secretary Brian Roehrkasse. "However, it is not our sole priority. In fact, Congress has directed the department to focus on other priorities, such as obscenity."
Sources say Acosta was told by the FBI officials during last month's meeting that obscenity prosecution would have to be handled by the crimes against children unit. But that unit is already overworked and would have to take agents off cases of child endangerment to work on adult porn cases. Acosta replied that this was Attorney General Gonzales' mandate.
Acosta's meetings with other law enforcement agencies also were not particularly fruitful, sources said.
Criminal defense attorneys and an American Civil Liberties Union spokeswoman say they are appalled at the Justice Department's plan to prioritize the prosecution of obscenity when narcotics trafficking, public corruption, and fraud are rampant in South Florida.
Lida Rodriguez-Taseff, a spokeswoman for the American Civil Liberties Union and a partner at Duane Morris in Miami, said, "It's amazing that we're wasting our resources on the morality police instead of battling organized crime, illegal drugs, corruption and undocumented immigration. I can't even believe this."
"Don't forget, it took less than two weeks after the unveiling of Janet Jackson's right boob at the Super Bowl before the president's congressional cronies were holding hearings on the matter -- but it took 14 months before Bush caved to public pressure and allowed the 9/11 Commission to be formed. Again, you pick the real obscenity.
So Justin exposing Janet's boob is a sin, but White House staffers exposing Valerie Plame is a win. Profiting from porn is a sin, but Halliburton's wartime profiteering is a win. Two men getting hitched is a sin, but Tom DeLay and Jack Abramoff playing with each other's clubs is a win. And telling students condoms can prevent STDs is a sin, but lying about WMDs is a win." -Arianna Huffington
It's nice to know that the FBI has to have ten full time agents policing the porn industry.
"Fidelity, Bravery, and Integrity" , one porn DVD at a time.
In executing the following priorities, we will produce and use intelligence to protect the nation from threats and to bring to justice those who violate the law.
FBI priorities 1. Protect the United States from terrorist attack. 2. Protect the United States against foreign intelligence operations and espionage. 3. Protect the United States against cyber-based attacks and high-technology crimes. 4. Combat public corruption at all levels. 5. Protect civil rights. 6. Combat transnational and national criminal organizations and enterprises. 7. Combat major white-collar crime. 8. Combat significant violent crime. 9. Support federal, state, county, municipal, and international partners. 10. Upgrade technology to successfully perform the FBI's mission.
http://www.fbi.gov/priorities/priorities.htm
Does priority number 10 mean they get to have 60 inch plasma screen home entertainment centers with 5.1 sound ?
"Ron Jeremy..... DROP YOUR WEAPON AND COME OUT WITH YOUR HANDS UP !"  | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 8/23/2007 7:31:57 PM | And in other news:
Man gets 30 years for smoking a joint while enjoying sunset on local beach cliff.
Local churches allowed to harbor illegal aliens for 12 months. Priest allowed furlough to attend summer boys camp with anchor child.
Underage drinker kills family of 4, gets 6 months probation.
Gang of 7-13 to 15 year olds kills occupants of convalescent hospital in rooms 13, 24,69 and 100. Released OR to local Mexican Mafia parents.
President Bush pardons Osama Been hiden.
Atlanta Falcons change team name to Atlanta Pit Bulls.
Man in local market machete massacre released on own recognizance.
its good to see the FBI has its priorities... | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 11/26/2007 5:45:27 AM | It's easy to see why they want this register to become law: 1) No-one tells the FBI when the latest "Girls Gone Wild" videos are coming out. 2) Bush and his friends want to find out if their daughters are in a porn video, so they can stop the video, before all of their friends see what she gets up to. 3) No-one wants to date Republicans anymore.
Forget civil rights. Republicans are just trying to get hot dates.
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 11/26/2007 9:32:54 AM | Number one target is going to be Girls Gone Wild and similar videos.
There has already been high amounts of self policing. Ever since the entire fiasco with Tracy Lords, they have done a fairly good job of self regulating. | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 11/26/2007 10:10:28 AM | Is it me or can I not read:
1) "Porn Control in the US" - poor heading, I read nothing in this article that suggests 'contolling' the porn industry. Unless you have a problem with the gov. trying to curb child abuse. 2) "MORE STRONG ARM Government crap" - how does requesting accurate record keeping for the purposes of ensuring no child abuse consitutes strong arming, are your tax records more important than child protection in the US. 3) "WHY would the US government need Ron Jeremy's info..(he is by now a little past the danger here isn't he?).." He's ten inches...I guess that's not what they mean (lol), they don't want Ron's info, come on, it's for the kids, they need a blanket approach to ensure compliance. 4) "There are other ways ...WITHOUT trampling the Constitution to abuse a segment of citizens rights" - sorry but why do US citizens apply a blanket concept of holyier than thou rights without looking at the intended result, 'IT'S FOR YOUR CHILDREN'S RIGHTS', why for the sake of actually keeping employee records (does that sound better, I bet your employer has your age on file) would one support a porn producers right (if it is one) to keep poor records. 5) "Sounds like if you are nekked you are Guilty UNTIL registered innocent..." - I'll bet you did not get served in a bar until you had proof of age and the gov. had a record, add driver's licence, marrage certificate...blah, blah, blah.
The idea is sound and well intended. But as usual if you read the intent which will include all internet images as well, it is not hard to see that it will just create a burocratic nightmare to enforce. | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 12/5/2007 11:59:38 PM |
Authoritarian religious factions have been on a roll ever since Bush got into office .
Christians are not the ones lobbying for these new restrictions. I have spent lots of time in the state legislature and other levels of government. In general, politicians find that they lose ground with one particular demographic, then come up with some new law, tax, program, or subdidy designed to pander to that group. They never seem to care about the unintended consequences of these laws. I am a member of the Free State Project up in New Hampshire, and we spend a lot of time going to legislators and other elected officials to explain to them what the unintended consequences are.
I used to believe that more of these laws came from conservative Republican legislators, but actual analysis ( www.nhliberty.org ) shows that the average Republican voted no on these new laws and restrictions about 60% of the time, while Democratic legislators voted no only about 29% of the time on average. That is not to say that every Democrat held authoritarian attitudes or that there weren't some awful Republicans there, also--only the Democratic politicians have generally been much worse overall at taking away both economic and personal freedom. This has also included property rights, religious freedom, gun rights, and free speech. Overall, Republicans were worse on a couple of issues, but there were some exceptional individuals there, too. | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 12/7/2007 10:42:58 AM | | I think it was done to better track their earnings, so they could tax the income, as often those in the porn industry are independent contractors , if you will, and not all report all their income, same with dancers. just my guess~ | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 12/7/2007 11:30:06 AM |
The new rules, proposed under the Adam Walsh Child Safety and Protection Act, would require blue-movie makers to keep photos, stage names, professional names, maiden names, aliases, nicknames and ages on file for the inspection of the department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section.
are these people not employers? then they should be required like all employers to get name, add, and soc sec no,.... and that should be enough to make the government happy and also track any tax issues,....which they are currently required to do
after all these performer's allready have to have documentation that they are disease free,....and sign documentation on the set verifying that fact and that they are of age,..as I understand it before they can even take their shoes off,....one would think that and the collection of each actors soc sec no, is enough,... | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 12/7/2007 11:51:15 PM | | Seems to me that if you can't tell if the actor is legal or not just by looking then no crime is being committed. I know this is a strange concept, but nothing magical happens on your 18th birthday. | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 12/8/2007 7:09:20 AM |
Seems to me that if you can't tell if the actor is legal or not just by looking then no crime is being committed. I know this is a strange concept, but nothing magical happens on your 18th birthday.
What makes me wonder is that if I'm 16 and I kill another person, i can be tried as an adult...if i go out and have sex the person having sex with me can be convicted with having sex with a minor.
yeah, for tax purposes the they have to get the age of the porn stars, but when the government is trying to do is go retro and make all porn stars register and put then into a national data base. I dont think so. This isnt like getting a car, fish or hunting license. | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 12/8/2007 3:20:10 PM | | There are substantial laws already in existance regarding this issue. Enforcement is the key. In addition, the porn industry is the least of this country's greatest concerns at this time, but stirring up the nest does make for a little political "razzle dazzle". | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 12/9/2007 12:52:53 AM | It's just another element in the on-going data-mining of each any every individual. The porn part is a side bar.....errr....part of the bar code to your identity....
Hell.....they already know what you read in the library....
Question: Oh brother, where are you? Answer: I'm so freaking BIG I'm EVERYWHERE! | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 12/9/2007 4:59:08 AM | They want to keep track of every single porno web site every porn star appears on ? How many are there 10 million or so ? No one could possibly visit every porn site on the Internet. The Republicans havn't rode this old war horse in quite a while. Of course they'll drag the " protecting children " excuse into it. | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 12/9/2007 6:38:19 AM | BRAVO ,ACCOLADES TO OUR GOVERNMENT!!!! ,IT'S ABOUT TIME FOR SOME KIND OF CONTROL IN THE PORN INDUSTRY & PORN STORES WITH DEVICES SO DAMNED REPULSIVE,MAKES ME WANT TO UP CHUCK. WHAT IS THIS COUNTRY GAINING FROM ALL OF THIS? OH I KNOW A REDUCTION IN SOCIETY;S MORALS WHICH ATRIBUTES TO" A. GUNS IN SCHOOLS B.SEX AT ANY AGE C. I COULD GO ON AND ON. D.IF NOTHING IS LEFT TO THE ADULT IMAGINATION ? | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 12/9/2007 11:17:43 AM | Marie V., you may think this is a great idea (because it's not your ox being gored, it's your enemy's ox), but it is a BAD idea. For starters, it's unconstitutional. There's a very good reason the USC specifically said "congress shall make no law" outside their specifically designated area.
I'll give you a good example: you think devices (sex toys) are a bad thing....should Congress allow searches for such devices in people's homes?
In the early part of the 20th Century, the KKK was gathering enough attention that Congress decided to step in and investigate. That turned out to be one of the biggest boosts the Klan ever got. | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 12/9/2007 6:23:19 PM | Good thing I live in Canada. I write erotica for a living.
The money isn't that good. :wink: | |
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| Porn Control in the US Posted: 12/9/2007 10:37:15 PM | I'm pretty sure that all licensed prostitutes in Austalia have to provide the same infomation. And also routine AIDs tests and drug tests.
To the health department. Not the police. | |
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