| Sex with minors I think this is unacceptable
Posted: 8/27/2007 2:01:12 AM | | I recently read a post from a 25 year old man who has a crush on a minor, the girl in question is according to him is 17 years old. Personally I think this is unacceptable but some of the replies really shocked me. I have a 16 year old daughter and the thought of an adult male almost a decade older hitting on her troubles me as I feel at this age children are very venerable and should not be the target of 25 year old virgins (this claim was also made in the original post). Perhaps Im over protective so Id like to know what others think about what ages are acceptable for minors/17 year olds to have sex with adults from both male and females. If the genders were reversed would things be different? Whats you option on this? | |
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| Sex with minors
Posted: 8/27/2007 2:19:53 AM | | My opinion is that this is a horrible question. Why are you really asking this??? | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 2:29:03 AM | | Im asking this because of a post I read from another user where a few people, both men and women seems to think it is perfectly acceptable for adults (25 years olds) to target minors (17 year olds) so I want to know what is acceptable and what is not. I hold the option that a 25 year old having sex with a 17 year old is not acceptable but thats just me and I have being wrong before, I hope I am not this time so I posted this to find out if society has changed of wheather my view is valid. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 2:36:56 AM | I think it depends on the country you are in as to whether it is appropriate or legal.
It doesn't really take morals into account.
In Australia our sex laws are quite clear..
A minor (in regards to sex) is classed as someone under 16 (17 in some states).
However, for it to be legal, you must not be any more than three years older than them.
I don't think it is appropriate for mid to late 20 year old men to "prey" on 17 year olds as you state.
But all teenagers mature at different rates and often form relationships with men well outside a 'respected' age bracket. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 2:45:53 AM | | I think it depends on the mentality of the teenager. There are a few out there who are less ignorant than some thirty-year-olds. Eighteen is just a number-- we have to draw the line somehwere or it will get taken too far. That doesn't mean it's some horrendous thing when someone has sex with a consenting seventeen-year-old. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 3:06:06 AM | Don't forget about the whole emotional maturity thing. There are a lot of guys in their mid twenties who are less mature than a 16 or 17 year old girl. I'd like to use someone other than myself as an example, but since I can't think of any good ones, here we go:
As a 17 year old, I was attracted to other 17 year olds (duh). Having aged over the last two years now to the age of 19, I'm no less attracted to girls that are 17 because of their age. Now you could say I'm an adult that shouldn't be considering minors, but COME ON PEOPLE. What about when I'm 25? If I haven't matured (hypothetically speaking  ) then would it still be so bad?
I sound like I'm defending paedophiles now. Trust me, I'm not.  | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 3:14:28 AM | If they can bleed, they can breed. If there's grass on the feild, play ball.
People close their minds when it comes to this whole "Age of Consent" thing. I don't see a problem with it if the younger party wants it. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 3:25:53 AM | What a crazy reply that is from you Bunni
I wonder if you would think the same if it was a daughter of yours that was getting hit on by some older guy
As for saying if they bleed they can breed .. some 12-13 year olds can bleed.. does that mean it's ok for them to start breeding ?
Some 12 -13 year olds start pubicy at that age .. do you think because there is grass it's ok to play ?
I find you disgusting to be honest! | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 3:48:39 AM | | My opinion is that it's wrong. Unfortunately, many young girls love the attention from the "older" guy, not realizing that he's targeting her because women his own age find him repulsive or unacceptable in some way. She's still a child...no matter how mature she is. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 4:00:27 AM | | I'm perfectly fine with it. As a minor I had two perfectly viable relationships with men 6 or 7 years older than me, because we clicked. I know that when I was 16 and 17 I didn't give a damn about the stuff that most high school boys did. It was impossible for me to carry on a conversation with somebody who could whine about their parents making them do their own laundry - as far as I was/am concerned, if the statement "I have to wait until I get my allowance for the week" has the remotest possibility of turning up in conversation, forget it. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 4:31:39 AM | The idea of adults having sex with minors speaks to the idea of someone mature having sex with someone immature. We all mature at different times in our lives, often girls mature more quickly than men. However, for the most part, adults that attempt to have a sexual relationship (which is to say a very powerfully intimate emotional and physical relationship) with someone of a lower maturity, which is often the case with people we refer to as "minors", tends to be a user and abuser of the minor.
That's why laws name specific age limits for "legal" adults. Older people that seek this kind of relationship with minors are usually aggressors. They should be shunned by other members of a society that values honesty, innocence and children. But I forget, so many in society these days don't believe in the punishment of an aggressor, which for me seems bizarre!
It's rather telling that the OP uses a term such as "targets" 17 year olds. An aggressor and an abuser tends to target his/her victims also. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 4:44:56 AM | | And for those concerned with the law, in Canada the legal age of consent is 14 (although they're currently trying to change it to 16), and there is no "3 year rule". As in, a 14 year old and a 24 year old could legally have sex as long as the older person is not an authority figure. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 4:47:57 AM | | The OP is a survivor Spence56, that means the OP is a victim of child sex abuse. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 4:51:53 AM | | dont care what the laws are stay away from minors give them a chance to grow | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 5:17:10 AM | | This thread is disturbing. It asks questions which shouldn't need to be asked tbh. The only reason i clicked on it was because I thought it said 'sex with mirrors'. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 5:19:23 AM | | 'sex with mirrors'. where are the mirrors ?????? | |
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| Sex with minors
Posted: 8/27/2007 5:28:55 AM | When a person arrives at the age of consent then what they do and who they do it with becomes a moot "issue". If they're acting on their own wishes or desires and make a choice to have sex with someone of an age YOU think is inappropriate basically you have no standing in this matter. This isn't dismissing your own outrage or disgust towards the man described here but is this teenage girl co-operating or is she being forced into sexual acts?
Emotional maturity has NEVER kept pace with any ages of consent when we supposedly "allow" younger people to begin participating in society which means taking responsibility for their actions and choices. If this 17 year old girl WANTS to and CHOOSES to have sex with this guy that should be the real deciding factor here. Legislature alone cannot anticipate a persons level of maturity but some laws can be misused under the guise of "protecting our children". Honestly some of the younger men and women I've encountered in various capacities stunned me both ways on this emotional maturity thing. Some were far more advanced into true "adulthood" while others seem to be about 8 or 9 years old at best. Obviously, there are many "adults" who would barely pass for teenagers with their behavior.
This is in NO WAY meant as a slam against your own sexual abuse survivorship but if it's coloring your offense or horror at an age disparity you find disagreeable then you're basically trespassing onto anothers life. I agree that at 17 and 25 these two might seem mismatched; if it's a consensual thing with no manipulation or coercion then no one is "preying" on anyone. What about these older women who seek out much younger men----are they just as "guilty"?
Child abuse in any form should be a capital crime with its attendant harsh penalties---consensual sex between willing people should NOT be this big a deal----the emphasis on CONSENSUAL!! | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 5:34:02 AM | I engaged in a sexual relationship with a much older woman while in my teens, and it was my first. The good part of it was that I had a patient and willing teacher who was not put off by my inexperienced. The bad part was that I became quite attached to her and it took quite a while to get over it. It had to be kept a secret and I felt ashamed of it. I cannot recommend it as a general practice.
I live with a nineteen year old son and see quite a few young ladies. I have also noticed a few boys in their twenties who hang around with a younger set because they are so immature. I would not want any young lady to get involved with any of the ones I have met. They are one step away from predators that use alcohol and drugs for seduction of young girls, and it is disgusting. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 5:37:49 AM | various issues of sexuality are interesting in public life because of what they represent. unfortunately, posting on pof risks confusing them with an attempt to find others with whom to physically manifest the various and occasionally aberrant examples discussed. i certainly do not advocate sex with the underaged. however, i think that the visceral reactions to this anomaly in and out of POF are indicative of something else going on.
i'm guessing it has a lot to do with our changing culture that seeks to prolong childhood as life expectancy increases.
it's hardly imaginable nowadays for a 14 year old to be out on their own and leading an adult life in the community, yet this happened with some regularity as recently as the second half of the 20th century.
it also seems to be the halcyon days for a double standard pertaining to age disparate relationships. it seems much more acceptable for a teenage boy to have a relationship with an older woman than the reverse. perhaps this is because the exploration of female sexuality in itself is much more likely to be popularly encouraged than a exploration of male sexuality, which is more often ostracized. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 5:54:00 AM |
The only reason i clicked on it was because I thought it said 'sex with mirrors'.
I thought it said Sex with Miners. I thought the profession might actually pay off. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 6:20:55 AM | | I thought the responses where they say its okay if the 25 year old guy is just as immature as the 16 year old girl are ridiculous. That is probably a WORSE influence on the teenager. Who wants some immature 25 year old hanging around their kid? Chances are they would be very bad news. Either way, either sex...that is to old for a teen to date. | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 6:49:21 AM | | Interesting how people can skew a situation to get the responses they want or need. I read the original post by the young man in question. He is NOT targeting anyone. He is sincere and was asking for advice. The OP then takes his story, twists it just a bit to suit her needs and posts a new thread. Is this to try to get justification for her own opinion, which didn't quite match the majority of the opinions on the original thread? | |
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Posted: 8/27/2007 6:53:59 AM | Way back in high school.. a GF of mine dated a 15yr old (she was almost 20) anyways, 10 years later they have 2 kids together.. they always stood by and said it was meant to be. The only thoughts of the age difference came from people around them and never the couple themselves.
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Posted: 8/27/2007 6:55:45 AM | | I have said this before in another thread and I will say it again..there are billions of people OVER 18..why stay stuck on someone who is still a CHILD? | |
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