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 susu_1wa

Joined: 2/17/2006
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Posted: 8/27/2007 12:19:27 PM
Is there anyone out there interested in starting a dating service or planning dating events geared for older women seeking younger men? About thirty percent of the women over forty are seeking and dating men that are at least ten years younger. Any ideas on how to do this? I receive notification of speed dating events geared at everyone, i.e., younger men and women, older men and younger women, but nothing geared at older women / younger men.
 paid4byx

Joined: 10/4/2006
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Posted: 8/27/2007 12:44:45 PM
If I were here full-time I'd probably be interested since you're right, it is more common then ever now. Never did that speed dating thing either but have heard some humorous stories, nothing bad which is a nice change.

I probably won't be a full-time resident for a couple more months.

Stay in touch, let me know what you come up with! Good Luck.

Ciao ~ Gina
 ~Duffster~

Joined: 5/7/2007
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Posted: 8/27/2007 3:40:46 PM

...Any ideas on how to do this?


You would be talking 'Cougar Party'!!

Pick a night of the week, plan where you want to go and then set it up as a Cougar Party, anyone that is interested would attend.

But remember one thing, in order for this to work, there has to be good looking pictures of the Cougars to attract the bait!!

There are clubs up here that started out having Ladies Night, now they are known as the Cougar Dens for those that travel to them frequently. Guys my age get the benifit as well, because not all men are into cougars, but all gentlemen will try to please a lady at any age.
 susu_1wa

Joined: 2/17/2006
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Posted: 8/27/2007 3:48:22 PM
Not at all what I had in mind. Speed dating events usually consist of a particular targeted age group with enforcement for who is allowed to attend. Cougar? That is an uncomplimentary term. You do not hear of such terms used for older men seeking younger women.
 paid4byx

Joined: 10/4/2006
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Posted: 8/27/2007 4:28:16 PM
I have to agree OP, I didn't care much for that name either.
 ~Duffster~

Joined: 5/7/2007
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Posted: 8/27/2007 9:39:23 PM
...You do not hear of such terms used for older men seeking younger women.


I have to agree with the statement in principle, we generally get worse names, as men, for such goings on. The "Cougar" nomenclature is a reference to ladies seeking younger men, and there are now clubs springing up all over North America with the sole intent of this. Let's not forget that the cougar is one of the most revered species of cats in North America and was even put on the endangered list in some states and provinces. It roams many areas of our land and is one of the most recognized felines today. If using the term has offended you, then please accept my humble apologies.

The event I was indicating is not a speed dating event, that is a whole different thing, and costs each participant ridiculous amonts of money with no guarantee of a connection. Whereas if some type of "meet and greet" is organized, one can mingle and enjoy the evening while checking out the attendees.

What I was trying to indicate, is to select a theme name, which would imply the intent of older ladies seeking younger gentlemen. And having a terminology affixed to a type of person, in principle is not always appreciated, but if you are wanting to date younger men, then if the shoe fits, at least wear it comfortably.

Dating is not as easy for either sex over a certain age, we have our excentricities and lifelong learned habits that we have to deal with. The dating game has changed in some ways with all the technological advantages of being able to see and 'talk' (IM) on first espying ones profile. We can conform to whatever system is best suited to us. I wish you well in your endeavour.

Here is a URL of a site in Calgary: http://www.members.shaw.ca/MixAndMingles/Index.html
The age group is targeted, but not strictly adhered to, so however you want to go, but you did ask for suggestions, we have to lighten up sometime in our lives and to have fun is the number one criteria.

I personally have hosted several functions under the PoF banner, have attracted members from 19 to 67 all at the same function, and we all had a good time. I know of 4 couples that are a couple as a result of these events. One of them is where the lady is older than the gentleman.
 SeattleArtist

Joined: 5/23/2007
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Posted: 8/28/2007 12:27:49 AM
Many reasons, I apologize in advance for some of the stinging statements I am about to say:

1. As women get older, their beauty tends to fade,

2. Men in the 30s still have a drive to reproduce though it is watered down somewhat and older women past their child bearing days are of no intrest

3. 30 year old men, 40 year old women: mid life crisis, verses one of who still has begun to live? Some men dont even complete college by 30!

4. 30s and 40s are two differnt worlds, not always but can be.

1 and 4 is completely cultural and can be written off as opinionated, but 2 and 3 are often the most felt by men who are hit on by older women. Meaning the reason that young men dont go for older women is very much linked to biological functions as men have a drive to spread their "strain" to at least one woman. I personally would go for an older woman, I can relate to her maturity and mature beauty more than a young and emotional 20 year old in a general sense. The issue of children however, which I want, will sink my boat unless I am willing to fork the money and she is willing to endure the pain of having an in vitro fertilization done. I am 24 and have dated a 36 year old woman and I really liked her but we had to part ways due to family problems my date was having. I think there would be a market for younger men seeking older women, but you might not get a strong reaction.
 SelectiveSingle

Joined: 8/15/2007
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50 is the new 40, 40 is the new 30....
Posted: 8/28/2007 9:56:58 AM
What's with the negativity about the OP wanting to make something happen regarding a 21st century change in how women date?
Cougars? You got to be kidding ~Duffster~
That's a label and if we women used such generalization IE.. men who wear plaid shirts are all "blue collar" workers wouldn't that apply to you? No offense but I find that offensive.
Age and dating do not mix. It's about lifestyles, cultures and social development. Some are older, less refined or more refined and some are stagnant and mundane and yet others are progressive and exciting.

That's not age, that's ATTITUDE!
Good luck with your proposal OP.
 Lotus_Flower

Joined: 8/8/2007
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Posted: 8/28/2007 10:48:25 AM

2. Men in the 30s still have a drive to reproduce though it is watered down somewhat and older women past their child bearing days are of no intrest


And many of them already have kids. As far as beauty fading, the same could be said for men - in spades! And if you don't have it to begin with then it's really a dire situation
 susu_1wa

Joined: 2/17/2006
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Posted: 8/28/2007 3:52:34 PM
Okay guys, I am not asking for an opinion on how you feel about older women and younger men. Mr College boy (seattleartist), I am sure there is enough data out there to show that this is happening more and more. I don't really care what you think of it. I want to start a service that caters to it. Kinda like the website where men go to find golddiggers except a site for Older Women seeking Younger Men and Younger men seeking older women. Believe me, its happening. The time has come folks.
 opticalnoise

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Posted: 8/28/2007 5:49:59 PM
The majority of women want a man who is older than them, plain and simple. Why?

Older men compared to younger men....
... make more money
... have more education and experience in life
... make more money
... typically have more personal infrastructure (car, house, etc)
... make more money
... are more "fatherly" (no idea why this is a desirable trait but it seems to be a lot of the time)

I got engaged to an older lady and I consider myself to be extremely lucky, and I would encourage anyone who is interested to give it a shot, but the sad fact is, women want men with loads of cash who can act as a father figure. And before anybody wants to slice my head off with a counter attack, let me state that I'm talking in general patterns that I have noticed, there are always exceptions, everyone is a unique snow flake, etc etc etc.
 susu_1wa

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Posted: 8/28/2007 5:57:27 PM
Not the issue here, sweetie. I do not know what kind of women you have been meeting but this is a load of BS. "women want men with loads of cash who can act as a father figure". Like I said, could care less about your opinions on the subject. The idea is plain and simple, there is a need for this type of service because of what women want. Thiry percent at least and growing, want a younger man. NOT A FATHER FIGURE.
 crabstuffing

Joined: 1/15/2006
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Posted: 8/28/2007 6:30:08 PM

women want men with loads of cash who can act as a father figure


Ha! Maybe women who were spoiled by their parents or can't or won't provide for themselves. That's a bunch of hooey, but you already said it was a generalization so I'll let it slide. That is the total opposite of me. Complete 360 degree reversal of my ideals.

I wish I could date younger. Most of the things I'm into draw a much younger crowd, and I hang out with people younger than me. I have younger men hitting on me IRL and online, it's frustrating. Believe me, I tried to date younger and while it's fun it isn't something that is relationship material.
I need a cool guy around my age that understands where I'm coming from and enjoys that place. Have yet to run into any that "fit" yet.

Oh and Seattleartist, I look better and better as I get older. You do NOT want to see pics of me when I was younger. Horrifying. :)
 SeattleArtist

Joined: 5/23/2007
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Posted: 8/28/2007 11:17:36 PM
Sorry I must of interpreted what you were saying wrong, and actually no, there is so much data out there, not much could be made of it in a unbiased manner, the internet is filled with incoherent information, so please dont insult my education, I was only trying to help.
 SeattleArtist

Joined: 5/23/2007
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Posted: 8/28/2007 11:19:08 PM
Hey Crab stuffing, I personally would belive you had you show me pics, I do tend to think women are in their primes in their 40s as far as looks as concerned.
 ~Duffster~

Joined: 5/7/2007
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Posted: 8/29/2007 9:04:59 AM

...I want to start a service that caters to it.


There are several things that you need to think about before actually starting a "service".

You would need a name, a web page that is interactive and some type of server. Some companies provide all of the aforementioned for a nominal fee. The way to go would be as the founder of this site did it.

Check with various computer companies about costs for a server with a web based capability. The Domain name may cost some money, but that is small compared to potential income, look at what has been done on this site. Marcus still has the system working out of his Vancouver apartment and gets a cheque in the neighbourhood of $1 000 000 per month. This is posssible because of all the ads (cyber-links) that are on his site. Each "hit" gives him cash and so he is able to maintain the "free" status of the site. Then there is the mail system, will it be internal or external, profile information and setting up the designs to amass the information and place it in the system in a readable format.

You have to have some knowledge of programing, web design and server applications to run your own. Or you contract out and from the revenue generated by membership or links pay someone to operate the system. Not an easy task if you are not a computer whiz.

Again, good luck.
 samfool

Joined: 10/1/2006
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Posted: 8/29/2007 4:16:30 PM

Not at all what I had in mind. Speed dating events usually consist of a particular targeted age group with enforcement for who is allowed to attend. Cougar? That is an uncomplimentary term. You do not hear of such terms used for older men seeking younger women.


Although I will agree that "cougar" is sort of a strange term... (and very illogical, as cougars are not "old cats" but simply a different *kind* of cat)... I have to disagree that there are terms used for older men seeking younger women!

"Robbing the cradle"? "trophy wife"? "may/december"? Seems those terms have been in common parlance for a LONG time.

Anyway, I more often hear the equally-silly term MILF rather than "cougar" myself.

samfool
 susu_1wa

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Posted: 8/29/2007 7:39:49 PM
"not much could be made of it in a unbiased manner, the internet is filled with incoherent information, so please dont insult my education." TSK, TSK, College Boy, who is insulting who now. All of you diatribes are full of assumptions and generalizations based on what. By your own admission, you do not get a lot of quality contact with "real women". Yes, I have read some of your other postings. My information is based on research and data given by real women. And yours is based on what again? Experientially, through your college education and your vast experience in dating women? As you well know, all data can be manipulated and interpreted in any number of ways. As I stated before, your opinion does not matter in this thread, and I digress from the thread, so unless I get some good information on the subject at hand which is STARTING A DATING SERVICE with events and a website catering to Older women seeking younger men, then I am going to END this thread.
 Alexander!

Joined: 10/25/2007
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Posted: 11/10/2007 12:58:24 PM
Older women are GREAT for younger men. Older women are confident (sexy), they don't engage stupid drama (sexy), they tend to be financially secure (sexy), many don't want children if they already have them (sexy), and they're HORNY AS HELL (lol, mostly kidding). Please start the dating service. Cougars unite!!
 GingersnapWA

Joined: 10/13/2007
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Posted: 11/13/2007 6:29:51 PM
The Seattle Weekly newspaper published an article about "Cougars." It stated that Cougars are older women who are just out to have casual sex with younger men, nothing more. That is why many of us 40-something women (including myself) find the term 'cougar' insulting, because not all of us are into that sort of thing; I have dated men twenty years older, as well as men ten years younger. Every age group of people have their positive and negative qualities, it all depends on what each person is looking for...
 bellrb19

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Posted: 11/16/2007 6:30:14 PM
I applaud the Seattle Weekly for bringing this attention to the topic out in the open but they have oversimplified things. The whole younger man/older woman relationship is more than just a purely sexual connection. I find the stability of an older woman and the forwardness (usually no games) very attractive. I myself am interested in fit older women who are young at heart and a blast to be around. I am often shy in approaching older women because it seems few are attracted to younger men the way I am attracted to older women. I have had great experiences with older women and hope to have more in the future. Society still may look down on these relationships or may not understand them, but as you state gingersnap they can be very rewarding for both parties! I am interested in hearing from older women who are attracted to men such as myself...
 shore66

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Posted: 11/24/2007 7:00:19 PM
I agree with Gingersnap, the term "cougar" comes across as insulting, carrying a predatory connotation. And as it is generally used, it implies that the only possible connection between an older woman and a younger man is sexual - and that, too, is insulting.
 peppy1um

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Posted: 11/25/2007 5:23:42 PM
Do you really need a seperate sight? Just put in your profile you are attracted to younger guys. I don't even have to do that and get probably more 25yo calling on me than anything. I am not into it more because I need to have a challenge intellectually and find that many of them lack experience. But there are a lot of them out there looking for a misses Robinson, trust me. Just remember, they usually have raging hormones and looking for a good mommy spanking!!! LOL

 Mssbhavn

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Posted: 12/2/2007 3:50:38 PM
susu 1wa...I think there would be great interest in speed-dating among older women/younger men. I don't think the statistics matter much. Both of the top speed-dating sites allow you to host parties or buy into their system. I say go for it. If it doesn't work, you'll have a hell of a lot of fun, anyway. And think of all the cool guys you'll meet!

Are you up North? If you do it up there, I'll do it down here in SW WA. We could compare notes...
 chaswhatif

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Posted: 12/2/2007 5:44:13 PM
Actuarial tables indicate that I,58,otta be w/a 67 year-old.If we want to pass on at the same time,saving grief.
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