| "OldBoy" is a work of Cinematic Art.........
Posted: 9/17/2007 4:31:53 AM | ..............I don't know how fa people's Cinema and movie interests go, but I am a MAJOR movie collector, and I collect all kinds of foreign films, strange rarities, contraversial films with very provocative ideas, etc.....
Well anyhow, this movie has been my top movie for the past year and a half. Everything is what you would call almost a Perfect movie. The acting is beyond anything (especially since Korean/Asian acting is known to be quite over the top). The musical scores used in the film are nothing short than breath-taking, the story unfolds incredibally all the way, and the end....oh god, the end of the film is what makes it so incredible!!! It's shocking, heart twisting, tear jerking, infuriating, but it's also so beautiful, wonderful, emotional, romantic, and leaves you feeling like you will never be able to see a greater film!
I kid you not; the end of this movie is so powerful, I am always sobbing my eyes out through the last half hour of the movie.
The director Park-Chan Woo, too cinema to a whole ne wlevel with this visual masterpiece by really taking camera work to somthing that's completely beyond his time.
This film is packed with symbolic refferences, constant dialogue that ALWAYS has signifigance to somthing in the film, philosophy that will make any philosopher be a chat-whore at the end, and all the layers that are in the films because pretty much EVER detail has been taken accounted for.
So, for anyone who is looking for a great film, somthing to really challenge their eyes and their mind, I strongly recommend you check this movie out. | |
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| OldBoy is a work of Cinematic Art.........
Posted: 9/17/2007 4:38:47 AM | how dare I call myself a "Movie Collector" if I have not seen "Audition"? LOL!
I own most of the most famous Takishe Mike movies which includes "Audition", "Visitor Q", "Ichi The Killer", and "Gozu".
Actually, if you enjoy David Lynch/Surreal type movies, then check out Takishe's "Gozu", because that movie is what I would call an Asian Surrealist movie. It's everything from cisually shocking, to absurdly hilarious. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 4:40:30 AM |
Actually, if you enjoy David Lynch/Surreal type movies, then check out Takishe's "Gozu", because that movie is what I would call an Asian Surrealist movie. It's everything from cisually shocking, to absurdly hilarious.
Visually Shocking!!! Sorry, bad typo!!! LOL!
Damn forums with no Edit option. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 4:47:04 AM | Actually, if you enjoy David Lynch/Surreal type movies, then check out Takishe's "Gozu", thank you I will Since I got netflix I have been getting into a lot of the asian independent films.Love david lynch movies,eraserhead. An interesting flick is called carnival of souls.Or I have been looking for shivers but can't find it. | |
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| OldBoy is a work of Cinematic Art.........
Posted: 9/17/2007 5:02:27 AM | also very familiar with Cronenberg. Great Canadian director.
Shivers was a greta film, like his combination of Sex and Zombie movies; to crave sex so much, you will literally rip someones limbs off trying to **** him!! HAHA! That movie creeped me out for sex for that whole day! LOL!
I thought his film "Rabid" was a great early representation of Zombie movies that we are JUST getting today. Where instead of zombies being slow motion and lifeless, he showed them being like rabid wild animals. Great film.
Existenz was another great one, Scanners, Spyder, Dead Ringers, A History Of Violence................and OH OH OH!!! He has a brand new film that just hit theaters.
Speaking of Lynch: have you seen his new film "Inland Empire"?!?! Oh man, I was so amazed by that film, I saw it at our little Midnight Theater twice. That movie is so dark, gritty, mesmorising, confusing, shocking and horrifieing, but so beautiful all at the same time. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 8:21:33 AM | >> Existenz
Wow, I didn't think anyone else liked that movie, since I've never seen it on anyone's lists of favorites.
I found that to be one of the more interesting movies I stumbled across, somehow missing its original release. It was not quite like Videodrome, another odd movie especially for it's time, but played to that altered reality really well.
As for zombies... being in Pittsburgh I have a special place in my collection for them. There have been some really great movies released lately, some old, some new. Others are interesting because you can see that some of the newer movies drew heavily from them. RotLD and even RotLD II were great, breaking down some bounds in the genre, using humor and spoof, and pushing limits of what can/could be shown.
I've started getting into the asian horror/exploitation films. For some reason I keep going back to the 70's in my film interests. Like the Italian Vampire movies... :) By the time the 80's rolled around, things were starting to be redone, though there were still a lot of "new" things destined to become classics.
But Existenz ... it's funny, I was thinking about it this past weekend, and trying to dig it out from my movie collection. (I have 18 file boxes stuffed with DVD's I have no room to put out, and no time to enter into a log program like DVDProfiler).
Actually, House of the Dead II when it plays on Sci Fi has an incredibly funny scene. The female the zombie is in the holding room, and she looks down at her chest -- blurred out by the censors -- and screams.
Cool thread. | |
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Posted: 9/17/2007 10:28:30 PM | I recently saw this movie !
When I was describing it to my freinds I told them that after they see
this movie they will lust after older Korean men with bad haircuts!!!
I think Quentin Tarrantino wants to be Park-Chan Woo when he grows up!!!
It was brutal and flawless and beautiful all in one highly disturbing package!!!
You gotta see it... | |
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Posted: 9/24/2007 3:44:44 AM | Yeah, Oldboy is an excellent movie - I'm not sure if I regard it quite as highly as the OP does, but no question that it's a well crafted piece of cinema.
It's actually the second movie of Park's "vengeance trilogy", coming between Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance ("Boksuneun naui geot" - thanks IMDB, you make me seem worldly!) and Sympathy for Lady Vengeance ("Chinjeolhan geumjassi").
Neither is on the level of Oldboy, but they're both good in their own right, and follow the same basic formula (the plot building up, then capped off with a vengeful bloodbath or three before the conclusion). I was actually impressed he held back a bit more on Lady Vengeance, most of the violence is implied, and not seen outright - but the idea still comes across. | |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 3:19:02 PM | Oldboy is an outstanding film, I couldn't take my eyes off it for a second, wonderful acting too especially the tongue scene. Have you seen any of these GlassDream. A Tale Of Two Sisters, R-point, Dumplings, The Eye, Lady Vengeance, Brotherhood. My favourite is still the original japenese version of The Grudge though.
Apart from that is there anybody on here who loves their Asian films that can help me with the name of a film which I saw last year, I think it is either korean or Japanese but not sure. It is about a little boy that goes to stay with his poor nanan (grandma) and he is really bored and desperately wants to go home, his nanan does everything she can and tries to give him everything he wants and never once complains about him sulking all the time. Its really annoying because I just can't remember what you call it, I think it has home in the title but I am not sure, I would appreciate it if anybody can tell me what this film is called. I have tried looking under asian dvds on various websites but can't find it. | |
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Posted: 10/10/2007 6:15:09 PM | A Tale Of Two Sisters, R-point, Dumplings, The Eye, Lady Vengeance, Brotherhood. My favourite is still the original japenese version of The Grudge though.
Let's see... I've seen The Eye, Sympathy for Lady Vengeance, and Taegukgi - I know I've been meaning to see Tale of Two Sisters, I just need to track down a copy.
The original Grudge though? I watched Curse 1, Curse 2, Grudge 1, and some of Grudge 2, and... I don't know, I just really didn't find them all that interesting - the psychological aspect just wasn't done well enough to make it suspenseful.
Even then there was only one "jump out of my seat moment", and that was just because I was watching a terrible quality VCD. In Grudge 1 there's a point where the shadows on the ceiling form themselves into the shape of the ghost girl in question in that segment, then it sort of turns and glares at the camera... of course the compression was so ugly, for the first 30 seconds I couldn't make out anything, and couldn't figure out why the camera was focused on a dark blocky murky ceiling, so I ended up peering closer and closer to the TV, just in time for the image to shift and the ghost to become more obvious.
I guess that's what I get for watching bad copies of horror movies at 3:00 in the morning in the pitch black 
I'm still partial to Ring - and the sequels weren't too bad either. Ring 0 was really good, and Ring 2 was a good watch... up until the end with the ridiculous thing with the swimming pool, anyway. 
Anyway, I've got no idea about the boy and his grandmother movie, sorry | |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 4:38:03 PM | | In reply to beholder, not to worry, I am sure there must be somebody who will know what it is called, I saw it on film4 here in the UK last year and missed the last five minutes of it and it hasn't been shown since, I am almost certain that it has home in the title. | |
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Posted: 10/11/2007 5:42:07 PM | | If you liked the movie, you should check out the manga that it's based on. It is OH MY FREAKIN GOSH amazing. The last volume should be out in a few weeks. I know that getting an 8 volume comic series is a little bit expensive, but it's totally worth it. I've actually held off on watching the movie, because I don't want to spoil the ending of the comic for myself. I've heard that compared the comic, the movie is a lot less subtle. But Goto (I don't know what they changed his name to in the Korean movie version) is probably one of the coolest protagonist in any noir mystery story I've ever read. | |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 1:52:19 PM | @ Bodyartist
Ya man, I LOVE Cronenbergs work!!!
Speaking of Zombie movies/horror films, I know what you mean!! HAHAHA!!! I have a HUGE collection of horror/banned-contraversial films.
If you want to see an incredible independant zombie movie, check out:"ShockWaves"
The basic idea for this movie sound sincredibally stupid, but once you watch it, you are completely taken by storm of how incredible this movie is. Great atmosphere, constant eerie/creepiness to it, and it has such an interesting back story.
This movie.............is about Natzi Zombies!!! 
I know, sounds stupid huh? But I assure you, watch it, and you will NEED to make room for it in your collection. it's incredible.
@ InstruMental Case:
ya, that scene was an incredible part. And it's funny, it took them 3 days to get the scene right, and they never intended it to be a ONE shot Take to begin with. The more and more they worked on getting it frmo all these angles, they started using less and less angles until Min Chick Soi (Oh-Dae su) said:"Hey, how abot we do this scene all in one take?. Now here's the kicker: the director HATES other people's input on a film, and he actually thought about what he said and said:"Well, if you can do it.......that might sound really incredible."
@ Extremelyshyone:
I have "A Tale of Two Sisters", but have yet to watch it. I own "3 Extremes" where Dumplings comes from. As for "Lady Vengeance", I have to say Park Chan really let me down. From Sympathy, to OldBoy, then to Lady..........he really got lazy. It's like, the first 2/3rds is highly intense and almost hard to follow because of all the additional side characters and where the story is trying to unfold in a mysterious way.......then by the last 3rd, it just dragged on and on and on. I'm not talking about the murdering scene, I loved that part, but after...........it just kept dragging.
If anything, I should watch it again and have a second oppinion, but I had to watch it a second time just to figure out most of the story I got lost in.
@ morgoth0084:
I actually have the OldBoy special edition tin box set which comes with the first novel the movie is based on. I am definately needing to get the other books. I can't wait to really have time to read them all. | |
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Posted: 1/7/2008 8:39:41 PM | | I saw a some-what brief clip of OldBoy online a while ago (the one-take hallway fight) and I instantly put it on my Netflix list. It is definitely a movie I've determined I must see, and I look forward to watching it when it comes. | |
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Posted: 1/13/2008 9:15:13 AM | NEO Magazine 's Top 25 Essential Asian Film List:
A Better Tomorrow
Arahan
Battle Royale
City on Fire
Drunken Master
Dumplings
Eastern Condors
Election
Godzilla
Hana-Bi
Infernal Affairs
Lady Vengeance
Little Red Flowers
Mountain Patrol
No Blood No Tears
Oldboy
Ong Bak
Project A
Ringu
Shaolin Soccer
The Host
Tokyo Drifter
Way of the Dragon
Welcome to Dongmakgol
Yojimbo
You could also try these great Asian films:
Brotherhood
Death Note (1 & 2)
Ping Pong
Twin Warriors | |
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Posted: 1/13/2008 3:45:40 PM | What Yo Yo Girl Cop isn't on the list? Snark.
Inland Empire was awesome. Not as psychotic as Eraserhead but I liked it better. I'll watch anything that mad bastrard makes. I even liked Dune.
I'll try to find Old Boy; so far the best film I've seen is The Lives Of Others. | |
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Posted: 1/13/2008 3:57:58 PM | I saw Old Boy unintentionally. Wandering the arts district, some girls gave me and my date their extra double-pass. I do remember enjoying it, but I don't really remember much about it.
Talking zombie films... a quote comes to mind: "Send more cops... the last ones were delicious." I think this is from a movie, anyone know which one? | |
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Posted: 1/13/2008 8:38:45 PM | Hey garnet73 that movie is Return of the Living Dead, it started out with 2 guys working at a medical supply company who come across an old miltary container
that had a zombie in it, it's the one with the punk rockers.
I won't point out how sad it is that I know that........ | |
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Posted: 1/16/2008 9:36:11 AM | HAHAHAHAA!!! That movie is a great classic!!! Try to get "Return of the Living Dead 2" because the B quality gets even BETTER!!! It starts to get REALLY over the top and hilarious! LOL! | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 2:19:49 AM | If you want to see an incredible independant zombie movie, check out:"ShockWaves"
Lol I thought I was the only person who ever saw this!I remember it the Nazi frogmen wearing the goggles living underwater just ordered from Canada since it is out of print here "gargoyles with cornel west.Another b movie but it has something too it,and I ordered shivers.I recommend Pans Labyrinth if you haven't seen it yet.I watched oldboy last night imo incredible movie.See ya | |
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Posted: 1/22/2008 3:57:22 AM | Oldboy is a great movie!
Ending was one of those "wow" moments.
One aspect that impressed me about Oldboy was the fight scene - all done in one continuous take (well, am sure it took a few takes to get it, but damn impressive).
Audition, as someone mentioned, is pretty good also.
I just watched an old black and white Japanese movie (made in 50's I believe) called "Sancho The Bailiff" (unsure what Japanese translation is) - incredible story line.
Also, check out "Graveyard of the Fireflies" - Japanese movie about a teenage boy and his little sister set during WWII; but grab the non-cartoon version if you can find it.
You won't be disappointed. | |
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