| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/18/2007 6:34:30 PM | my friend gave me a call lastnight and asked me a pretty serious question and i'm just floored in shock ................
My friends cousin is only 20 years old and she gave birth to a boy 2 weeks ago when the baby was born the baby came out with a small brain and bruises all over his body and only weighed 6 lbs............they also never used foreceps at birth either
the doctor told his cousin her baby is going to be delayed in life due to the small brain............ my friend is just disgusted this happened to a baby and very upset
My question i have never heard of a baby being born with bruises and what causes them does any one have any ideas ? as for the small brain i could only guess and tell him drugs ........... the family doctor is monitoring her very close but the family is disgusted thanks you for your replys | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/18/2007 6:43:50 PM | Birth is not an easy process. I could see how some bruises could appear. Supposedly, I had one so bad when I was born, that one of my arms was completely blue from it.
I believe that docs stay away from forceps due to many law suits resulting from the use of them. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/18/2007 6:44:16 PM | such a sad case :(
but i wanna jump in and say drugs are necessarily the cause of small brain could be a number of things or maybe just a defect.
my daughter was born with a few small bruises and weighed 4lb 11 (5 weeks early) bruises could be due to a traumatic birth or maybe just a child that bruises easy.
a friend of mines son came out backwards bless him and had a whopping bruise across his forehead from hitting her pelvic bone.
as the baby grows the doctors will probably be able to tell the mother more, but for now i would just tell your friend to support her cousin and not throw accusations about until there is solid proof. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/18/2007 6:48:50 PM | the condition you speak of I think is called microcephaly....and may or not be caused by drugs. With that condition, I would imagine there may be other health problems, that may account for the bruising. There is no reason at all to be"disgusted" with this child...these childen are very special, and need much TLC...hopefully they will get over their "disgust" and care for and love this baby for whatever time it may be theirs.. I am certain there will be extensive testing and monitoring of the baby by health professionals....they will be able to answer any questions the family may have about the baby's condition, what caused it ( if they ever know) and how the child can lead the best life possible.
Good luck to you all | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/18/2007 7:00:07 PM | the family is disgusted due to she is young and " monkey see monkey do " from one relationship to the next and involved with friends who have babys young and not all from the same fathers and the fathers aren't around today............so she tells ppl i can do it if my friends can............. if she would have listened to her parents and got her grade 12 and stayed living with her parents instead of one relationship to the next then maybe this wouldn't have happened they believe the baby is suffering now for her immature mistakes thats why they are disgusted........... | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/18/2007 7:07:47 PM | im sorry what a load of crock, who says if she had stayed in school got married and etc and then had a baby the same thing wouldnt have happened
IMO its those family members who are immature, they need to grow up get over there disgust, support the girl and welcome a new baby into the family. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/18/2007 7:59:54 PM | ^^^^^^ I agree what a load of crock!! The family members being disgusted...that is WHATS sad... I have heard of babies being bruised quite a bit from birth..from the mother having a small pelvic area so when going through the birth canal they get bruised. This child is very special...and the Mother of this child should feel blessed as ONLY special individuals are granted such a task... | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/19/2007 4:52:57 AM | | I think the family especially the parents should get over the disgust and be there to help support their daughter. I am young to and people tell me i am too young to have a son but who are they to know whats good for me and my son..I am now 22 and have a 3 1/2 yr old who I love dearly. As for people worrying about age, thats there problem they need to get over it and realise that society is changing. But what they need to concentrate on now is the baby. They need to stop thinking what if. I know when I was pregnant with my son my mum and step dad where upset but they also supported me in my decision. that is what this new mum needs...support, especially if the baby has special needs. As for the brusing and the small brain that could be a million and one different things..Drugs aren't the cause of everything. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/19/2007 6:08:44 PM | Your friend needs to read up on dissabilities my friend. What that little boy has is a disability. Disabilities are NOT worth being disgusted about. Had that baby been able to understand that, he'd be quite saddened. I have a disability, but there's no need for disgust. I could see if it's something where the intestines are hanging out, now that's disgust. But a mental condition, COME ON. Let's just say those who are disgusted need to GET A LIFE and know (as christians put it) that "God" created him this way for a special reason. Sometime down the road he'll become an amazing little boy with great talent.
People HAVE to get over their judgements on "oh this poor little boy, now he's suffering because of his mother and his condition is so disgustful". What that boy needs is NOT PITTY, but a FULLY SUPPORTIVE FAMILY. What he is NOT is a poor boy. He is not poor at all. There is nothing wrong at all with him. So what if he's got a small brain. What does that matter? People with disabilies are human too, and so is he. So, with that said, tell your friend that her AND the family NEED to be supportive of that boy and to GROW UP. That boy needs no immature stupidity of a family. He needs someone who's going to love him and not pitty him for his condition. I know all too well about being loved no matter what. My parents actually gave a damn about me. They didn't look at me differently because of my disability. They actually have helped my on my road to full independance.
So, for all those people who think us disabled people are dumb and retarded, I throw a book at you to read so you can know we're ALL humans, and no less. And no matter how big or how small your brain is, you've got all the potential in the world to become successful. Hands up to all those with disabilites. We deserve a lot more credit in this world. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/19/2007 6:17:30 PM | If the doctors and nurses were concerned, mom and baby would have been tested for drugs at birth. As for bruises, I have seen babies born with bruises as a result of the birth process. Especially when they descend quickly. Remember, babies are being squeezed through a small space, and if the face or shoulder is pressed against the pelvis this can cause a bruise.
Also, Hispanic and biracial babies sometimes are born with Mongolian spots, which can be mistaken for bruises.
Sorry about the birth defect, but it isn't necessarily caused by drug use, so don't jump to conclusions. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/19/2007 9:08:21 PM | | I think you should be supportive but it sounds like a lot of severe physical abuse and drug or alcohol and smoking has a huge handle on this case. Everyone involved better brace themselves for a very hard rough roadf ahead and get into therapy right away.It takes a lot to accept it and a lot more to deal with it.I know I have two boys born with infantile autism and multiple health issues.At first u want to blame someone including yourself .How could this happen to me.In fact some I know committed suicide over so much stress and time needed.She better be ready to accept and move forward to care for the tiny blessing and be thankful every minute she has with him. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/19/2007 9:21:30 PM | | a child is the watermelon where the child comes out is the size of a lemon . . . trama happens to both parties | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/20/2007 4:22:40 AM | Well when I was having my daughter seven years ago I was only a month off my seventeenth birthday. So when the sixteen year old me told the midwife I needed to push she didn't believe me and pushed my assurances aside. She told me not to push that it was too soon. So... to stop myself pushing, I squeezed instead lol. When, ten minutes later I was screaming at the top of my voice that "I DOOOOO need to push you stupid *insert lots of insults here* and if you don't check me right now I'll find you in whatever dark corner of the hospital you hide in and I will kill you. I will." I was fully dialated and the baby's head was almost out. Stupid woman. So when my daughter was born... she had a ring shaped dent all the way round her head from my efforts to stop pushing. It literally looked like she had been wearing a halo that was too small She was like that for a few days. The midwife apologised profusely and I gave her the evils every time she walked by me in the wards.
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/20/2007 5:00:28 AM | I can't believe the ignorance and stupidity shown by the family. What kind of family members expect the worst of one of their own, and cast blame so quickly and without proof? No wonder this young mother is hanging out with the "wrong" crowd.
I'm so disgusted. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/20/2007 6:10:25 AM | | Yes babies can come out bruised. I just had my baby a week ago yesterday and she was bruised very badly when she came out. The drs told me it was partly because she wasnt far enough down in me when they decided to induce as she was 3 weeks early. And it was also partly because she got stuck in me during the c-section. I didnt know a baby could get stuck during a c section but thats what they told me. As for the small brain she may have been on drugs or just not taking good enough care of herself. Or it could just be one of those things that happens even when you do take the best of care of yourself before and during pregnancy. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/20/2007 6:54:26 AM | | Bruises are basically blood clots...could the baby have circulatory issues too? Babies can be bruied during a difficult birth too, there are all kinds of bones in the pelvis that the baby has to navigate around to get out. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/20/2007 6:59:01 AM | What?? Finishing school and staying home with mom and dad is the way to prevent birth defects?? Someone notify the March of Dimes that they are no longer needed!
Ok, with that said, her family is behaving like people did back in the 40's and 50's when an "imperfect" child was born. Like the mother was being "punished for her sins," and that she should somehow be shunned and ostracized. What's next, are they going to lock the kid away in an institution and tell everyone he died? What are they, a bunch of ignorant hillbillies?
This young mom has enough to deal with, without having any moral support from her family, and every one of them should be ashamed.
Tell them all to read "The Memory Keeper's Daughter." | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/20/2007 11:06:09 AM | A new baby is born into the world - what a joy!
It is NOT the baby's fault that is was born into the world. It is NOT the baby's fault that it might be born hurt. Full term at 6 pounds, not out of the norm. Do not let anyone take their feelings out on an innocent beautiful baby. Accept him for who he is and love him. It was not his fault he was born into the world.
It MAY NOT be the mother's actions that caused this. It might. You may never know. There are SO many things that happen - look up IUGR Interuterine growth retardation. And a doctor that tells her right away that her child is going to be retarded should be SHOT. It is too early to tell and he may just be small.
Every soul is perfect, but not every body. Stop the ignorance, blame and disguist. There is a baby in the world and a mother and family that needs love, help and support. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/20/2007 11:23:59 AM | Um, my younger son was born with a huge bruise on his face from the contractions pushing him against my pelvic bone. Very normal.
Microcephaly could have numerous causes... | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/20/2007 11:39:28 AM | My grandson had quite a number of bruises on his head when he was born. He has a large head and his mother is a very tiny lady. Both are fine now. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/20/2007 12:41:57 PM | Vaginal birth roughs up all involved...far as I know, bruises aren't abnormal. Six pounds is a small baby, but certainly not abnormal either. Why is the use of forceps an issue here? Does anybody even use them anymore? If anything, vacuum extraction might be used to help things along, but not forceps.
Doesn't really sound like you have the knowledge to make diagnoses or judgment about this situation. Don't turn around and tell him the mother was probably on drugs, because clearly you have absolutely no idea. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/20/2007 1:17:53 PM |
I think you should be supportive but it sounds like a lot of severe physical abuse and drug or alcohol and smoking has a huge handle on this case
I know I have two boys born with infantile autism and multiple health issues
so.....with your reasoning, the cause of your boys autism was severe physical abuse, drug or alcohol and smoking.....before you get angry and accuse me of jumping to conclusions, stop and think. That is what you just did. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/20/2007 5:13:45 PM | I have seen hundreds of births, and many babies come out bruised because of the trauma of childbirth.... I have also seen many small babies born that are full term too. It's very possible that there is nothing wrong at all. And even if there is, it's very likely that it isn't mom's fault either.
And, yes, forceps and vacuum are both still used often. Depends on the doctor's preferences. I've even seen many episiotomies too... and I was told those were never done anymore either. | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/22/2007 12:39:58 AM | For those of you that have automatically judged the situation before knowing the full story....you should try getting out of your car through the exhaust and let us all know if you got any bruises doing it!
sheesh!!... | |
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| Poor new born baby so sad Posted: 9/22/2007 10:54:41 AM | | I am a psychological examiner and work in an early intervention system for children with special needs. If this child has microcephaly, he should be referred to the early intervention system in the state in which he lives. They can provide the much needed services to insure that he will meet his developmental milestones. His pediatrician can refer him to that service. | |
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